Has this ever happened to you?

[George A. H. Luck]

"Would you have found this from a hatch view.
It's at the far end of the attic sideways to the hatch. In other words way to the left of the hatch."

Probably. I inspect the lower edge of the roof by lifting the edges of shingles, pounding on the roof in this area and looking for signs of subsidence. One thing is for sure; I wouldn't have fallen through the ceiling, or popped any screws out while doing it!!
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[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by ecrofutt

Poor Mario, How do you get out of bed in the morning, let alone drive down the street! I'm not poor. I sometimes sleep on the sofa and I cross the street on my own!! Thanks.

Life is dangerous. Agreed. But it doesn't have to be.

Know your limitations and stay within them. Apart from being 220 lbs and feel I would do more harm than good crawling in the attic, I was born with more brain cells than you

And I do keep a firm grip when I'm in the attic (three points of contact) and on life. Good. Talk to me again the next time you rip your balls off comming down from the attic!!

"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming ~ WOO HOO what a ride!" Author unknown. The Author was on drugs when he wrote this nonsense!

I don't walk "every" attic or "every" roof. Just those I'm comfortable in (most of them).So we are in agreement! If the attic has plywood or a walkway or a heating/cooling unit I will go in!!

Did you tell your client to ditch that hose?

I don't tell my clients to buy or not to buy. I provide the report and they make up their own minds!

Nice talking to you Erby!!
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[rwand1]

There are subtle ways to inform your client that they should NOTwaive the home inspection clause in the purchase agreement.

1. So do you have the wherewithal to undertake the repairs?
2. Gee these repairs are starting to add up, have you given yourself a budget?
3. Are you trying to make a silk purse?
4. How handy are you?
5. Am I scaring you?
6. I can see you are deep in thought; are you concerned about what I am telling you and pointing out to you?
7. Would you like me to stop the inspection?

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by gluck

I'm with you Mario. The last time I was rummaging around in an attic I emerged to find a very neat row of about 20 drywall screws newly popped through the ceiling. As I have done this sort of repair for years I fixed the ceiling and painted it for the new owners. The agent and several relatives of the purchasers have used me numerous times since.

It's not "short changing" the client. It is being prudent.

George

You are a big guy 6' 3" maybe more? I can't picture you in the attic

I'm 6' 220 lbs if I fell through the ceiling I would also cause a lot of damage both to me and the house! I don't need this BS for what $500. No thanks.
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[rwand1]

I know and have seen some large framed inspectors, and I know there is no way they will fit in a small hatch let alone a standard size. How do they disclaim their inability or inaccessibility due to weight/build?

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by rwand1

There are subtle ways to inform your client that they should NOTwaive the home inspection clause in the purchase agreement.

1. So do you have the wherewithal to undertake the repairs?
2. Gee these repairs are starting to add up, have you given yourself a budget?
3. Are you trying to make a silk purse?
4. How handy are you?
5. Am I scaring you?
6. I can see you are deep in thought; are you concerned about what I am telling you and pointing out to you?
7. Would you like me to stop the inspection?

All good suggestions Ray!!

[rwand1]

Mr. Puchaser have you knowledge of operating a dozer or other tracted demolition vehicles?

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by ecrofutt

I don't walk "every" attic or "every" roof. Just those I'm comfortable in (most of them).

Erby:

Up here we usually see 8-9 up to 13-16 inches of insulation in attics and the ceiling joists/bottom chords are covered. In just about all newer housing the attics are blown with loose fill which you'll never get re-fluffed to original loft after crawling/walking through it.

These are reasons not to go into attics unless something needs closer attention!

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Mr. Puchaser have you knowledge of operating a dozer or other tracted demolition vehicles?

Ray

I have done inspections that needed the heavy equipment that you are referring to!!
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[Erby Crofutt]

Brian:
If you WANT to go in the attic, you can always find a way and justify a reason.

If you DON"T WANT to go in the attic, you can always jfind an excuse.

Just know your own limitations and stay within them.

Mario: I'm NOT talking about telling them to ditch the house, but the white plastic vent hose. (That's HOSE, not HOUSE)

If you truly had more brain cells (had to put it on a personal level, didn't you) then you would be able to read and tell the difference between hose and house and you'd know the "poor" was an expression of sympathy rather than a reference to your wallet.

If I didn't have to leave for an inspection soon, I'd take awhile and write a more witty and scathing reply, just for kicks with the appropriate smiles of course, as I don't really care whether you, or any of the other minimalists want to continue doing a "minimalist" inspection or not. In lieu of the long scathing reply, I'll just leave you with this.

Will I Live To Be 90? (from the jokes thread)

I recently picked a new primary care doctor. After
two visits and exhaustive
lab tests, he said I was doing "fairly well" for my age.

A little concerned about that comment, I couldn't
resist asking him, "Do you think I'll live to be 90?"

He asked, "Do you smoke tobacco, or drink beer or wine?"
"Oh no," I replied. "I'm not doing drugs, either."

Then he asked, "Do you eat rib-eye steaks and barbecued ribs?"
I said, "No, my former doctor said that all red
meat is very unhealthy!"

"Do you spend a lot of time in the sun, like playing
golf, sailing , hiking, or bicycling?"
"No, I don't," I said.

He asked, "Do you gamble, drivefastcars, or have
a lot of sex?"
"No," I said. "I don't do any of those things."

He looked at me and said, "Then, why do you care?

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Erby

My intentions were not to get personal,I'm just messing with you.
I know the meaning you were trying to convey (look at the smiles in my post) in your post including the washroom exhaust terminating just below the roof vent. When you say hose I'm thinking garden hose .
That was a good catch BTW.

Can we at least agree to disagree?
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[Erby Crofutt]

I feel appropriately messed with!

I also feel appropriately hosed. But it still should be replaced with a smooth wall "house"

I agree that we disagree.

But this is such a wonderful place to disagree. We all learn from differing opinions.

Now I'm to hosed to write a long witty reply.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by ecrofutt

I feel appropriately messed with!

I also feel appropriately hosed. But it still should be replaced with a smooth wall "house"

I agree that we disagree.

But this is such a wonderful place to disagree. We all learn from differing opinions.

Now I'm to hosed to write a long witty reply.

You are a good sport Erby!! How did your inspection go today?
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