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Old 2/4/09, 5:16 PM
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Bill,

Just curious, as you say that the NACHI SOP and COE do not yet qualify. Does that mean that any fee paid inspections I performed under the NACHI SOP and COE would not be recognized or accepted for my NCA application if I applied? And also is it permissable for an inspector to use the NCA or CAHPI SOP and COE even though they are not yet members or certified? Thanks I am pretty sure that there are others wondering the same things.
Jerry,

iNACHI SOP is higher than CAPHI/NCP so I see no reasons why it wouldn't qualify.

By the way, I use the AIBQ SOP when my client's wants a French report; this way I don't have to translate iNACHI's much like what CAHPI did in the past by providing a link to AIBQ's...

Also, my French inspection report writing time is much shorter using the AIBQ's!



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Old 2/4/09, 5:44 PM
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It may be easier to say that it is higher, but what was the benchmark that it was measured by? I would ask more to the point has the iNACHI SOP been recognized in any court of law within Canada? Respectfully - please provide a reference.



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Jerry,

iNACHI SOP is higher than CAPHI/NCP so I see no reasons why it wouldn't qualify.

............and what independent group compared the two and arrived at that conclusion? If that has been done, I would be willing to help get the iNACHI SOP approved.


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Bill:
Is there any provision to challenge the Nat. cert. exam outright?
And...have a TIPR at the same time?
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Bill:
Is there any provision to challenge the National Certificate program?
And...the have the TIPR at the same time?

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Old 2/4/09, 7:48 PM
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Is there any provision to challenge the Nat. cert. exam outright?
And...have a TIPR at the same time?
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Hi Terry:

The only 'exam' in the National Certification Program is the actual TIPR.

The other part of the equation is an Application for Background Review which is basically a document on which the inspector lists his/her experience and training. The training is given a certain weight depending on which courses were taken and passed, whether the training institution was accredited or not and if there were final proctored exams that were passed.

The program is surprisingly receptive to almost any combination of valid, verifiable training and experience.

Here's a scenario:

If an inspector has taken and passed an accredited course of studies, he/she would be given credit for the number of 'points' that course was valued at by the National Accreditation Council. Some courses are thorough enough that they satisfy the entire educational requirement, but most are not. You can also supplement the points with credits for seminars, conventions, etc. that are Home Inspection related.

The experience requirement looks for at least 150 fee paid inspections done to a recognized SOP. You can also get a bit of credit for related experience, such as being a carpenter, electrician, etc.

While there is no 'fast track' or shortcut in the program, if you have been inspecting for a few years, chances are you could get through the process within a few months if all went well.

The last thing required would be the TIPR, and that is where an inspector's abilities usually show up.

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Old 2/4/09, 8:27 PM
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It may be easier to say that it is higher, but what was the benchmark that it was measured by? I would ask more to the point has the iNACHI SOP been recognized in any court of law within Canada? Respectfully - please provide a reference.
Respectfully Claude,

iNACHI's SOP is higher than CAHPI's and so is it's CEU!



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............and what independent group compared the two and arrived at that conclusion? If that has been done, I would be willing to help get the iNACHI SOP approved.
Bill,

No wonder it cost so much to join CAHPI/NCP...

One only have to compare the two to see which is better.

Also, using CAHPI's SOP one doesn't even have to flush the toilet while doing its thing; this may explain the stinks.



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Marcel:

I am very sorry you have a problem with me trying to help your fellow members. Please post your email so they can all send their questions to you, since you are the expert.

I bow to your obvious superior knowledge about the NCP.

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Old 2/4/09, 11:14 PM
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Here we go again! Someone challenges Mr. Mullen and he goes off in a huff.

Marcel you have some very valid points. Another question that has never been answered to anyone but Bill's satisfaction is; " Exactly what courses are recognized and how are they weighted in terms of the famous 'points'?"
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Old 2/4/09, 11:35 PM
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Marcel:

I am very sorry you have a problem with me trying to help your fellow members. Please post your email so they can all send their questions to you, since you are the expert.
Bill,

How about posting information about the NCA such as:

http://www.nca-anc.com/images/storie...-10-2008-p.pdf


Fees (All fees include 5% GST)
Member of Associations with Equivalency Agreement Initial application, including background review and one Test Inspection $ 630.00 Application fee is non-refundable Others without Equivalency Agreement Initial application, including background review and one Test Inspection $ 997.50 Application fee is non-refundable

Applicants please return this completed form with all attachments and payment to: Canadian Association of Home & Property Inspectors Box 13715, Ottawa, ON K2K 1X6




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Old 2/4/09, 11:40 PM
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Here we go again! Someone challenges Mr. Mullen and he goes off in a huff.

Marcel you have some very valid points. Another question that has never been answered to anyone but Bill's satisfaction is; " Exactly what courses are recognized and how are they weighted in terms of the famous 'points'?"
George:

Ask your buddy, Marcel. Actually, George, if you looked a bit, the accredited schools are listed on the NCA website.

Sorry, George, but Mr. Mullen hasn't gone anywhere. I merely offered to share the opportunity to help with someone of Marcel's obvious superior knowledge about the NCP.

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Bill,

How about posting information about the NCA such as:

http://www.nca-anc.com/images/storie...-10-2008-p.pdf


Fees (All fees include 5% GST)
Member of Associations with Equivalency Agreement Initial application, including background review and one Test Inspection $ 630.00 Application fee is non-refundable Others without Equivalency Agreement Initial application, including background review and one Test Inspection $ 997.50 Application fee is non-refundable

Applicants please return this completed form with all attachments and payment to: Canadian Association of Home & Property Inspectors Box 13715, Ottawa, ON K2K 1X6

Marcel:

That's all been posted a few times. Why would I do it again when it's readily available on the NCA site for anyone?

Are you once again whining about the difference in fees? Why not ask your owner, Mr. Gromicko? All he had to do was cooperate and his members could possibly have been eligible for the lower rates.

Fear not, though, for help might be on the way for inspectors in Ontario.

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Old 2/4/09, 11:55 PM
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Marcel:

I am very sorry you have a problem with me trying to help your fellow members.
Bill,

On Monday (Feb. 2, 2009) a member on another forum asked you: *how many have passed the NCA?* to which you replied *The last I heard there were between 400 and 500 in the program*.

I have information that there is only 302 members and that Blaine Swan just got elected as NCA representative at large by only 13% of the members; only 24% voted!

How about saying it like it is Bill!



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Old 2/5/09, 12:15 AM
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Bill,

On Monday (Feb. 2, 2009) a member on another forum asked you: *how many have passed the NCA?* to which you replied *The last I heard there were between 400 and 500 in the program*.

I have information that there is only 302 members and that Blaine Swan just got elected as NCA representative at large by only 13% of the members; only 24% voted!

How about saying it like it is Bill!
My figures are correct.

There were 302 members eligible to vote in that election. Between 100 and 200 others are in different stages of the program and were not yet eligible to vote.

That is how it is, but then you knew that because of your superior intellect !!!!

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