International Association of Certified Home Inspectors

~~Raymond E. Wand~~ · #31 4/2/08, 8:27 AM

Joe stated:

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I am not aware of Any Organization with a Higher Industry Entry Requirement than NACHI. Please Elaborate and Defend........ --

There is nothing to defend, as you can see by the facts listed. Two different standards. Its a pity that a vast majority have been corrupted by slick graphs, and clever marketing ploys. Further NACHI has yet to produce any form of bylaws or policies, nor is it a democratically run club. Its also a pity that NACHI is an association essentially made up of rookies, particularly in Canada, consisting of paid memberships and free memberships.

~~Raymond E. Wand~~ · #32 4/2/08, 8:31 AM

Mario stated:

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'WOW I'm an ****hole for posting a comment about Mr. Harry Janssen!! I love NACHI and 99% of our members, but I have to be honest here and say that we have a few very strange and ****ed up members!!'

Mario thats the brightest thing I have heard you express. Just remember there are more than a few screwed up members in Nachi!

Brian E. Kelly · #33 4/2/08, 8:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Mario stated:

Mario thats the brightest thing I have heard you express. Just remember there are more than a few screwed up members in Nachi!

One less lately.

~~Raymond E. Wand~~ · #34 4/2/08, 8:55 AM

Ha ha, thats funny!

NACHI is not worthy!

Brian A. MacNeish · #35 4/2/08, 9:16 AM

Where's Nick? He started this thread.

George A. H. Luck · #36 4/2/08, 9:29 AM

But hasn't that always been the point of labeling an inspector a "student" ? It's sort of like hanging a "student driver" sign on the car. Just watch how the other drivers try to avoid you !! The "student" label and all the other demeaning labels (these actually tell the truth about a person's experience and knowledge......isn't being truthful a good and desirable quality in this culture?)

"The truth"? When a person with 20 years experience in the construction industry who has successfully been doing inspections for 10 - 15 years can be labeled a "student" with all the business smothering implications of that word, that is hardly the truth. It is a way of keeping that applicant paying and paying and paying his membership dues. We won't get into the issue of his not being able to use his organizations logo or name in his advertisements.

help to keep the rabble down and preserve market share for the 'good ole boys' (we have guys in our area moving up the ranks to become RHI's...they're not held down but know they have to pass proctored exams just like they've already done in their past education experiences. And they know they won't get "instantly" certified).

Quite true. I understand that some of them (most of them?) have been "moving up" for years. It makes one wonder if there is any chance at all of them actually arriving ! Reportedly the number of R.H.I.'s has remained pretty constant for a long, long time.

~~Raymond E. Wand~~ · #37 4/2/08, 9:39 AM

So if we listen to those concerns, the non qualified people entering NACHI are actually not qualified, and would you knowingly hire an unqualified non accredited inspector? To get your drivers licence for instance you not only have to write an exam you have to take an actual test in a car.

At the very least NACHI should institute a mentoring program and/or have a report verification review system for fledging inspectors.

Brian A. MacNeish · #38 4/2/08, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gluck

"The truth"? When a person with 20 years experience in the construction industry who has successfully been doing inspections for 10 - 15 years can be labeled a "student" with all the business smothering implications of that word, that is hardly the truth. Experience and competence will easily beat down the student label.....especially in a small market. Don't sweat it.....I don't!! It is a way of keeping that applicant paying and paying and paying his membership dues. May be a problem in Ontario, but doesn't appear to be here. We won't get into the issue of his not being able to use his organizations logo or name in his advertisements.

help to keep the rabble down and preserve market share for the 'good ole boys' (we have guys in our area moving up the ranks to become RHI's...they're not held down but know they have to pass proctored exams just like they've already done in their past education experiences. And they know they won't get "instantly" certified).

Quite true. I understand that some of them (most of them?) have been "moving up" for years. It makes one wonder if there is any chance at all of them actually arriving ! Reportedly the number of R.H.I.'s has remained pretty constant for a long, long time.

Until the recent upsurge in overall HI numbers due to blanket and somewhat misleading ads, many HI's were older gents adding inspection onto their income. Many of them are going into retirement now so the #'s may stay the same for a while. Down here, we've added about 10-12 members to raise our chapter #'s to 50 or so in the last 2-3 years,.... about 25-30% increase.

Brian E. Kelly · #39 4/2/08, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Ha ha, thats funny!

NACHI is not worthy!

No group is worthy, a burden I am willing to bear.

Brian A. MacNeish · #40 4/2/08, 10:58 AM

What's up, Doc? Suddenly it's wery, wery quiet here.

Claude Lawrenson · #41 4/2/08, 11:37 AM

Hi Brian, et al - just to break the short silence.....Perhaps we should note that ALL students should now be referred to as "people in transition".....after all are we "legends in our own mind"?

~~Raymond E. Wand~~ · #42 4/2/08, 11:44 AM

Lets be politically correct and call them Interns!

Marcel Gratton · #43 4/2/08, 1:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

So if we listen to those concerns, the non qualified people entering NACHI are actually not qualified, and would you knowingly hire an unqualified non accredited inspector? To get your drivers licence for instance you not only have to write an exam you have to take an actual test in a car.

At the very least NACHI should institute a mentoring program and/or have a report verification review system for fledging inspectors.

Requirements to apply for membership (working member):

You must have passed InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination (free) with a score of 80 or better.
You must have completed InterNACHI's Ethics Obstacle Course (free).
You must have taken InterNACHI's Standards of Practice Quiz (free).
You must mail, fax, or submit online InterNACHI's Affidavit.
You must agree to adhere to the Standards of Practice.
You must agree to abide by the Code of Ethics.
You must agree to continue learning (24 hours/year) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must agree to maintain your member Online Continuing Education Log (free) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must agree that (after you join) if you have never performed a home inspection for a fee you will submit 4 mock inspections to InterNACHI's Report Review Committee (free) before performing your first home inspection for a client.
You must agree that within your first 10 days after joining, you will login to NACHIs educational message board.
You must agree that within your first 30 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Standards of Practice course (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 30 days after joining you will complete InterNACHI's online Structural course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Plumbing course (free) including all the quizzes and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Electrical course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Safety Practices course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 60 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Roofing course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 3 months after joining, you will apply for a membership photo I.D. (free).
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Vermiculite Insulation mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Polybutylene Plumbing mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Water Heater TPR Valve Discharge Piping mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Emergency Exit mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first year of membership you will re-take and pass InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination again (free) with a score of 80 or better.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Log Home course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Green Building course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before joining or within your first 2 years after joining you will take at least 8 hours of advanced or beyond Standards of Practice coursework (reasonable exceptions apply).
You must agree that within your first 2 years of membership you will attend at least one chapter meeting or educational seminar (reasonable exceptions apply).
You must be actively working towards attaining a "Full" Membership.

All members get all membership benefits. Fee is $289/year... not a penny more.
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Requirements to maintain membership after you apply/join:

You must adhere to the Standards of Practice.
You must abide by the Code of Ethics.
You must continue learning (24 hours/year) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must maintain your member Online Continuing Education Log (free) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
If you have never performed a home inspection for a fee you must submit 4 mock inspections to InterNACHI's Report Review Committee (free) before performing your first home inspection for a client.
You must agree that within your first 10 days after joining, you will login to NACHIs educational message board.
You must agree that within your first 30 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Standards of Practice course (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 30 days after joining you will complete InterNACHI's online Structural course (free).
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Plumbing course (free) including all the quizzes and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Electrical course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Safety Practices course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 60 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Roofing course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 3 months of membership you will apply for a membership photo I.D. (free).
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Vermiculite Insulation mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Polybutylene Plumbing mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Water Heater TPR Valve Discharge Piping mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Emergency Exit mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
Every year of membership you must re-take and pass InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination again (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Log Home course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Green Building Course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before joining or within your first 2 years after joining you will take at least 8 hours of advanced or beyond Standards of Practice coursework (reasonable exceptions apply).
Within your first 2 years of membership you must attend at least one chapter meeting or educational seminar (reasonable exceptions apply).
And coming in 2007: InterNACHI's Occupant Hazard Recognition Primer.

Requirements for full membership:

You must have performed or participated in more than 100 home inspections.
You must have passed InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination (free).
You must have completed InterNACHI's Ethics Obstacle Course (free).
You must have taken InterNACHI's Standards of Practice Quiz (free).
You must mail, fax, or submit online InterNACHI's Affidavit.
You must adhere to the Standards of Practice.
You must abide by the Code of Ethics.
You must continue learning (24 hours/year)as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must maintain your member Online Continuing Education Log (free) as per the Continuing Education Policy.
You must agree that within your first 10 days after joining, you will login to NACHIs educational message board.
You must agree that within your first 30 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Standards of Practice course (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 30 days after joining you will complete InterNACHI's online Structural course (free).
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Plumbing course (free) including all the quizzes and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Electrical course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 45 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Safety Practices course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 60 days after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's comprehensive online Roofing course (free) including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that within your first 3 months of membership you will apply for a membership photo I.D. (free).
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Vermiculite Insulation mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Polybutylene Plumbing mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Water Heater TPR Valve Discharge Piping mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
You must agree that within your first 6 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Emergency Exit mini-course (free) including all the quizzes within.
Every year of membership you must re-take and pass InterNACHI's Online Inspector Examination (free).
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Log Home course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before or within your first 18 months after joining, you will complete InterNACHI's online Green Building Course (free) including all quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must agree that before joining or within your first 2 years after joining you will take at least 8 hours of advanced or beyond Standards of Practice coursework (reasonable exceptions apply).
Within your first 2 years of membership you must attend at least one chapter meeting or educational seminar (reasonable exceptions apply).
If required by your state, you must have the proper E&O insurance.
And coming in 2007: InterNACHI's Occupant Hazard Recognition Primer.

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Unlike other home inspection associations, InterNACHI front-ends many of its membership requirements. In other words, all of our members must fulfill membership requirements before they can apply for membership. Other associations have little or no entrance requirements and encourage their members and associates to go out and perform hundreds of unqualified inspections for poor, unsuspecting consumers. Warning! Is your inspector blind? Click here.

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InterNACHI's autolog records completion of each required course automatically in each member's online continuing education log.

Note to members of other associations:

Members of other associations are welcome to join InterNACHI but a requirement of membership is that InterNACHI must be given equal prominence in your marketing (brochures and websites) as other associations you belong to.

Note to New Inspectors:

InterNACHI does not make a public distinction between these two levels of membership. No law requires you to publicly announce what your InterNACHI member level is so you are simply a "Member." This is true for many other professions. For instance, a lawyer is not required to warn his first client about his lack of experience. Also, no law recognizes experience and knowledge gained outside the performance of inspections (many inspectors were once involved in construction). Since every inspector's experience is different there is likely no correlation between real experience and level of membership. Furthermore, since no law requires a public disclosure of an inspector's experience (or lack of it), InterNACHI does not require it either. If you are only a new working member you need not alarm your clients. If you are a full member there is nothing preventing you from touting it. You must be one or the other though. InterNACHI does not "brand" new inspectors with derogatory terms such as "Associate" or "Candidate" because InterNACHI has entrance requirements. Many agents blacklist associates and candidates. If you are a member you may call yourself a "Certified Member" or a "Certified Home Inspector."