I'm visiting 5 Provinces in 5 days, meeting government officials regarding licensing.

[bugmenot]

DeeDee

So who is the longest running ASSociate in there??

Whats the prize? Editor of a magazie?

[bugmenot]

Heck I even agree that OAHI should have a full forensic audit going back as far as 1994.

[gilstrachan]

Dear fellow NACHI members,

Since taking control of user account "gilstrachan" in hope of reducing the verbal diarrhea of Raymond and Roy, I have been hoping that this lunacy would be reduced. That sadly has not been the case.

Mysteryman has come up with a way for you express your opinion and participate.

Non-members cannot post polls but ALL can vote on others reputation so here is the plan.

Option 1-
If you think Raymond and Roy should continue as they have been vote gilstrachan's reputation DOWN and Raymond and Roy's UP

Option 2-
If you think Raymond and Roy should shut-up and get a life
vote gilstrachan's reputation UP and Raymond and Roy's DOWN

Let's see what the membership of NACHI really thinks of these two boys antics.

Go to the yellow star at the top of the post to give reputation points.

Speak up NACHI. This is your BB too.

[Darrell B. Hadler]

THANK-YOU NICK!! I sure hope one of them is Alberta

[rrichards2]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I have arranged to meet with numerous Canadian government officials in 5 different Provinces regarding licensing of home inspectors. I'll be doing this the entire week of December 18th.

Order up some sunny weather for me up there.

A very ambitious task Nick. Good luck and don't forget your
snow shoes.
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[Jason1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I have arranged to meet with numerous Canadian government officials in 5 different Provinces regarding licensing of home inspectors. I'll be doing this the entire week of December 18th.

Order up some sunny weather for me up there.

Let me know when you are in BC, I would love to part of that meeting - if it really happens

[David C. Verge]

Nick; When you are finished with your round of meetings would you prepare a summary of comments made by Gov't officials from each area and post the comments in the members section ?
I am not opposed to licensing home inspectors, but licensing doesn't stop bad practices.
David Verge

[tneyedli1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I have arranged to meet with numerous Canadian government officials in 5 different Provinces regarding licensing of home inspectors. I'll be doing this the entire week of December 18th.

Order up some sunny weather for me up there.

Ask for liquid sunshine. We(s)t coast style!
We have lots of it and...
we do not have to shovel it.

[George A. H. Luck]

Nick, please consider the following in your talks up here in Canada;

1- The C.A.P.H.I. O.A.H.I. cabal have for years told the 'government' that N.A.C.H.I. is just a collection of ill trained, inexperienced, dangerous boobs who were working construction yesterday and now are inspectors. You will have to try to convince them that N.A.C.H.I. here in Canada is a force to be reckoned with.

2- Show them that most Canadian Inspectors have not been consulted or in any way involved during the 'construction' of the National Certification programme, despite being charged otherwise by C.M.H.C.

3- Grandfathering. There are many inspectors out here who have completed hundreds if not thousands of inspections over multiple years who should not be forced to pay up to $2000. or go back to school just to comply with regulations. The fact is that, for the most part, these regulations have been authored by a group who have a vested interest in limiting the number of inspectors rather than allowing the free market to do so. And you know what government regulation of a free market produces - the Canadian economy

4- If licensing is to become a fact then it must be carried out by an arm of the government and not sub-contracted to ANY H.I. org including this one. All H.I. orgs must be treated equally and the playing field leveled for all inspectors aligned and non-aligned alike.

5- A report authored by you on what was said and done, what commitments were made ( if any) and some suggestions on what direction we should move would be greatly appreciated.
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[Douglas Cossar]

Nick:

I have come across an application for the National Certification process.

My understanding was that CAHPI was to administer the process and make it available to all current home inspectors.

I asked you to advocate a level playing field for all HIs in Canada regardless of affiliation in a previous post.

The application fees for Certification reflect an outlandish disparity.

CAHPI/OAHI members $530.00
non members $1,166.00

Roy and Ray have been making a case that the powers that be (OAHI/CAHPI)are trying exercise/maintain control in the HI industry.
This disparity in fees certainly reflects that IMHO.

Cheers

[rwand1]

Also be sure to ask why a self regulating body which has rec'd public funding claiming to be an certification body has itself has not been audited for compliance to CAN P9. The National claims it meets the criteria of CAN P9, but can't seem to muster the will to have an audit done. This calls into question the lack of will, and accountability lacking in a self regulating body. No one knows for sure it meets CAN P9 only what we have been told by less than scrupulous leaders.

[Claude Lawrenson]

Originally Posted by dcossar

Nick:

I have come across an application for the National Certification process.

My understanding was that CAHPI was to administer the process and make it available to all current home inspectors.

I asked you to advocate a level playing field for all HIs in Canada regardless of affiliation in a previous post.

The application fees for Certification reflect an outlandish disparity.

CAHPI/OAHI members $530.00
non members $1,166.00

Roy and Ray have been making a case that the powers that be (OAHI/CAHPI)are trying exercise/maintain control in the HI industry.
This disparity in fees certainly reflects that IMHO.

Cheers

Doug and others, I would suggest that one looks into the basis for the cost that is quoted. Perhaps part of it makes senses, than again, I am sure that not everyone will agree, so here goes. This is my general understanding of such a difference. BTW: there are other organizations that have two tier membership costs.

Example - cost for administration and background review of a non-aligned inspectors. Those aligned and those that belong to other associations that have provided information to the certification committee to "benchmark" the inspectors background criteria will create less time - hence less cost to process and therefore committee review of an application. More specifically, those have offered the information have helped in forming articulation agreements (agreements in principle) with the national certification council.

The issue of cost related to discilpine and professional practice administration becomes at a much higher cost - such as additional legal cost for a non-aligned applicant. Afterall how does one deal with non-aligned applicants.

These are just a few of the many costs that are factored into a higher fee.

[Douglas Cossar]

Claude:

I don't think anyone would argue the fact that there are is a significant number of NACHI members currently performing home inspections in Canada.

We are not "not aligned". Its time CAHPI/OAHI recognized NACHI members, or anyone outside their club, as equals instead of treating us like idiots

I am not against a National Certification or a national standard of competence for home inspectors.

I would just like to be treated with RESPECT! As do other NACHI members, I'm sure!

Nick: Just get the powers that be to do the above and we will be fine.

JMHO

Cheers


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[Claude Lawrenson]

Doug I suggest that you follow this thread. Perhaps it adds another POV to your concerns. http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/ive-asked-bill-mullen-come-message-board-and-post-11077/

I have had the opportunity to oversee field examinations of many inspectors from all walks, associations or not! No one is rendering an opinion here - other than any person that believes that number of inspections equal a better inspector, or that one association is better than the other needs to realize there are many dimensions to the home inspection sector. In other words performance under test review provides some very interesting results. That is why grandfathering does not work.

I for one believe that everyone deserves a fair chance, so please don't associate me with not feeling that I disrepect others! Some may say guilt by association - than again no association is perfect!

[Douglas Cossar]

Claude:

I read that thread after I made my last post.

I read Bill's rules of engagement and his messages. Seems like he wants us all to get along (dogs and cats). I agree.

Like I said I just want to play in the same sandbox and have equal access to the toys.

Merry Christmas
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