NACHI membership in Canada topped 600 today!

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/nachi_north_america.htm

[rcooke]

Originally Posted by gromicko

http://www.nachi.org/nachi_north_america.htm

That is interesting news .

NACHI Now has 600 Certified Home Inspectors in Canada.

CAHPI has about 400 +or- Registered Home Inspectors in Canada.

Not hard to tell who is the largest NACHI BY FAR

This obviously shows how great NACHI is and how much it helps all.

Thanks to all NACHI members who show how good they are in sharing help and information to every one .

Roy Cooke A Happy NACHI member

[bmullen1]

Originally Posted by rcooke

That is interesting news .

NACHI Now has 600 Certified Home Inspectors in Canada.

CAHPI has about 400 +or- Registered Home Inspectors in Canada.

Not hard to tell who is the largest NACHI BY FAR

This obviously shows how great NACHI is and how much it helps all.

Thanks to all NACHI members who show how good they are in sharing help and information to every one .

Roy Cooke A Happy NACHI member

Sorry, Roy, but you are hardly comparing apples to apples. CAHPI has about 1500 dues paying, practicing members in Canada. About 600 of those are RHI members but the rest are Associates and Candidates. All of these practicing members have completed several home inspection courses with proctored exams.

I commend NACHI for growing their numbers, but let's face it, if 200 burger flippers at McDonalds took the online course today they could be 'Certified' NACHI members before tomorrow. Then you'd have 800 !!! That type of 'certification' lacks any rigor or credibility.

Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

Bill

Just to keep the facts straight, there are more Students in OAHI than RHI. Have you wondered why OAHI is inflating revenues by recording revenues prematurely from membership dues? This is like showing all the revenue from a 3 year magazine subscription in the current year, yet you have not produced the magazine or incurred any costs associated with providing it.

Or why OAHI will not produce audited statements for the last two years, or quarterly reports as to be provided to the membership as per the by-laws?

Also what do you think of this?

http://www.homecore.ca/

[bmullen1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Bill

Just to keep the facts straight, there are more Students in OAHI than RHI. Have you wondered why OAHI is inflating revenues by recording revenues prematurely from membership dues? This is like showing all the revenue from a 3 year magazine subscription in the current year, yet you have not produced the magazine or incurred any costs associated with providing it.

Or why OAHI will not produce audited statements for the last two years, or quarterly reports as to be provided to the membership as per the by-laws?

Also what do you think of this?

http://www.homecore.ca/

Raymond:

Students were not included in my figures.

As you are aware, I have some thoughts about CAHPI-Ontario and their policies, but I won't discuss them on a NACHI forum. Suffice it to say I do not disagree with everything you say.

Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

Bill

I can't figure out why OAHI has two sets of membership numbers.

I would discuss my concerns on the CAFE but I know where that would lead. It would lead to me being suspended because some Nazi's on the BOE and the PR committee are acting outside the confines of the by-law.

Members of OAHI should be sure to look at the financial info which is being witheld and the differences in the numbers. The Treasurer will not release info that the members are entitled to! Shameful, and shameful on the members who let it happen.

BTW I wouldn't put up with the attitude shown to you on the CAFE because I feel you are right fwiw.

[rwand1]

Hey Bill did you see the bill for the OAHI lawyer to change the by-laws? $10K! Wow and a few in OAHI are concerned with me sending letters to the lawyer about mismanagement and abuse of the by-laws. I think OAHI needs to find another lawyer, one who doesn't over charge for the simple task of cleaning up the by-laws.

[rcooke]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Sorry, Roy, but you are hardly comparing apples to apples. CAHPI has about 1500 dues paying, practicing members in Canada. About 600 of those are RHI members but the rest are Associates and Candidates. All of these practicing members have completed several home inspection courses with proctored exams.

I commend NACHI for growing their numbers, but let's face it, if 200 burger flippers at McDonalds took the online course today they could be 'Certified' NACHI members before tomorrow. Then you'd have 800 !!! That type of 'certification' lacks any rigor or credibility.

Bill Mullen

Sorry Bill you are comparing Apples to Oranges CAHPI has listed on the various sites across Canada ( by my count at 8;45 am ) today listed 581 RHIs home Inspectors so NACHI is still bigger .
Those Burger flippers as you call them in CAHPI we both know the majority will never become RHIs even when the rules are bended from 2 years to 8 most never make it.
This is pr-oven with OAHI who have over the years stayed just over the 200 mark.... 230 today.
Bill Can you tell us when the list of National Certified Home Inspectors will be published .
I understand it was to be posted last November.
So by my figures NACHI is Bigger and we all know gives more information for the Home Inspection Industry in Canada.

Thanks Roy Cooke A Happy NACHI member

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by rcooke

That is interesting news .

NACHI Now has 600 Certified Home Inspectors in Canada.

I think if you count the number of aliases pretending to be NACHI members, our Canadian membership is around 732,000. In fact, there are enough Ray Wands and Gilbert Strachans, alone, to populate President Bush's desired troop surge into Iraq.

[Steven J. Davies]

To all who read these posts. I have been a memeber since Nov last year, and joined NACHI for a number of reasons. The first an for most was so I was not starting with one hand tied behind my by being called a student or god forbid a candiate. I would spend most of my time trying to explain what it means and why instead of doing inspections.

For myself I am am happy with Nicks notice of 600 in Canada. It is a positive but for some reason there is more time spent here haggling over who is better. NACHI, CAHPI, OAHI. NAHI, Etc. I habour no ill will to the rest of the associations here or in the US but it is obvious that some do and use this forum to vent there issues continually. If you read the post from 3 memebers its a continual bashing and regurgitating of the same old dissagreements that I have been reading for almost 4 months.

Lets agree to disagree and get on with making NACHI as good as possible. We all need to work together to help Nick and the rest of Nachi to do this.

I don't care if you belong to 2,3,4 organizations just check your crap at the door and work with others to keep the movement positive. I was out on feild training with inspectors that are all OAHI. No one asked if I had joined, no one cared if I was with NACHI or OAHI. Thats the way it
should be.

Please shake and makeup or at least be civil and stop the bashing. I will give everyone a piece of history from my past..

The company I worked for was one of 6 Business partener all selling the same stuff. We had to compete against each other to get the client. Prices were fixed so each sold for the same. We constantly battled each other and drove potential customer away and into the hand of the real competition.

If we do this here it will also happen. Mark my words.

Steven

[George A. H. Luck]

"I commend NACHI for growing their numbers, but let's face it, if 200 burger flippers at McDonalds took the online course today they could be 'Certified' NACHI members before tomorrow. Then you'd have 800 !!! That type of 'certification' lacks any rigor or credibility."


So much for Bill's new found spirit of cooperation. I thought that he had given up bashing NACHI for Lent.


"I don't care if you belong to 2,3,4 organizations just check your crap at the door and work with others to keep the movement positive."

This is the kind of member we need in NACHI. I wish there were more of them in "CAHPI" 12,377 members.

</IMG>

[rcooke]

Originally Posted by sdavies

To all who read these posts. I have been a memeber since Nov last year, and joined NACHI for a number of reasons. The first an for most was so I was not starting with one hand tied behind my by being called a student or god forbid a candiate. I would spend most of my time trying to explain what it means and why instead of doing inspections.

For myself I am am happy with Nicks notice of 600 in Canada. It is a positive but for some reason there is more time spent here haggling over who is better. NACHI, CAHPI, OAHI. NAHI, Etc. I habour no ill will to the rest of the associations here or in the US but it is obvious that some do and use this forum to vent there issues continually. If you read the post from 3 memebers its a continual bashing and regurgitating of the same old dissagreements that I have been reading for almost 4 months.

Lets agree to disagree and get on with making NACHI as good as possible. We all need to work together to help Nick and the rest of Nachi to do this.

I don't care if you belong to 2,3,4 organizations just check your crap at the door and work with others to keep the movement positive. I was out on feild training with inspectors that are all OAHI. No one asked if I had joined, no one cared if I was with NACHI or OAHI. Thats the way it
should be.

Please shake and makeup or at least be civil and stop the bashing. I will give everyone a piece of history from my past..

The company I worked for was one of 6 Business partener all selling the same stuff. We had to compete against each other to get the client. Prices were fixed so each sold for the same. We constantly battled each other and drove potential customer away and into the hand of the real competition.

If we do this here it will also happen. Mark my words.

Steven

Thanks for your thoughts you obviously read a lot before you joined NACHI.
Unfortunately if all did as you say then many would not know the truth about the Other Canadian associations . Many of us have and do belong to more then one Canadian association. This BB is the only one people like you can see to help them get the information needed to make an informed decision .
Just think many that do not read this BB join the others and then they find out about this BB and can see where they have made an error and lots then do like you did and join NACHI.
Free speak has made NACHI the Number one association in both the USA and Canada. .
So I am sorry having been on both side of the fence I like the open tell all Forum
Tried the other for many years and do not like the lack of truth given to the membership.
So until they run the Canadian Associations properly and truthfully I will try and give out the full story.
The NATIONAL CERTIFICATION is a prime example very little info was given out and still much is hidden.
I am sure you see Bill Mullen posts as an example there is no place else he can say the things he does here.

Roy Cooke A Happy NACHI Member

[rwand1]

I am still looking for the 5000 inspectors in Canada.

[rwand1]

Stephen I appreciate your concerns and they are warranted. However I would like to point out that if a Organizations is advertising/promoting itself as a regulating body, or self regulating body then it must ensure what it advertises is delivered, unquestionably as per its charter and by-law. If this is not the case then those inspectors who are members are selling their certifications and their memberships to the public short. You can't have members in the field fullfilling thier tasks and requirements if the overseeing body is going to be ineffectual in its governance to ensure competence of its members and fiscal management of the members fees. No outside accountability results in the mess you see expressed in these many posts by both Americans and Canadians.

If you don't think other associations have plans for your livelihood I have news for you, thats exactly what they have planned.

[Steven J. Davies]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Thanks for your thoughts you obviously read a lot before you joined NACHI.
Unfortunately if all did as you say then many would not know the truth about the Other Canadian associations . Many of us have and do belong to more then one Canadian association. This BB is the only one people like you can see to help them get the information needed to make an informed decision .
Just think many that do not read this BB join the others and then they find out about this BB and can see where they have made an error and lots then do like you did and join NACHI.
Free speak has made NACHI the Number one association in both the USA and Canada. .
So I am sorry having been on both side of the fence I like the open tell all Forum
Tried the other for many years and do not like the lack of truth given to the membership.
So until they run the Canadian Associations properly and truthfully I will try and give out the full story.
The NATIONAL CERTIFICATION is a prime example very little info was given out and still much is hidden.
I am sure you see Bill Mullen posts as an example there is no place else he can say the things he does here.

Roy Cooke A Happy NACHI Member

Thanx, Roy. I have and will again be a member of the Kinsmen association in Canada, I served and both a member and on the executive and was exective of the year for my contibutions to the club in Ajax. We also had "Rivals" but it was nothing like this all I can say is "Feud" between Nachi and OAHI. Our goals were to help out the community and make it a better place and give back to the community. The goals should be similar for Nachi, we have to give back to the community and better the inspection experience for our clients and not be fighting with other organizations over whos better or worse this just takes up time and valuable resources that could be doing other things.

Steven