NACHI membership in Canada topped 600 today!

[dcook1]

I can tell you why there are some members joining! Same reason I just joined. I have been a member of OAHI for over a year. During this time I have watched and read both the OAHI board as well as the NACHI board and what is online. The rules and regulations and all that is associated with both associations.

I have been inspecting part time for 5 years and decided to go full time a couple of years ago. I worked in the construction industry for 25 years as well as been a contractor for most of those years. I have built new houses as well as renovated 100 year old houses. I had several certifications from these areas. I had some Home Inspection courses under my belt along with the training my company puts us through ( I am a franchise) When I applied to join OAHI with my certifications, I was put in as an Applicant member.
Until get the remainder (later this year) of the courses OAHI wants I cannot upgrade my status. NO BIG DEAL! BUT! ...and to me this is a big deal, according to OAHI . I AM NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO STATE TO OTHERS I AM A MEMBER OF OAHI!
I wrote a couple of letters to OAHI and got my butt kicked for addressing this. I told them this was a load of crap and as a member of any Professional organization, they may restrict some areas, but as a paying member I will continue to advise people that I am. I got my butt kicked some more!
Near me are a couple of "Inspectors" that took all the required OAHI courses and are Associate members. They have both retired from non related jobs and now are trying to make a living as Inspectors.
In my very humble opinion (oops a little sarcasm slipped out by mistake) they do not know their head from a hole in the ground! One told a client a mouse died in the furnace.... "YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE FURNACE!" Can you say ......QUALITY !
Recently we were at a trade show and they went in together on a boot right across from the OAHI booth. They told people all day I was not a member! When people asked me if I was a member, I advised I was and it could be proven by them asking the two guys manning the OAHI booth as they know me! The two nameless people in the OAHI booth refused to acknowledge my membership!
Two of my head office people asked why this was allowed and they were told it was not their business.
The only way to prove it was to show my membership card!
Basically my overall picture,,, OAHI DOES NOT SUPPORT ITS MEMBERS. They do seem to want the money though!
I have seen several members not renew in the last year, simply because they do not see any support or benefit to being part of OAHI.
Now to NACHI.
NACHI has education requirements for its inspectors.
NACHI has online education for its members
You have to keep the requirements up to be a member!
So what is the difference? NACHI supports its members. NACHI brags about it's members.
AS I said before.. IF you are a member of a professional organization, you should be able to state it! No matter what your level is!
And now that I have most of the education requirements, I can finish the rest quite easy in NACHI. The inspections have long been done.

[rwand1]

David,

Did you notice the revision of the by-laws? Did you notice how they deleted many sections dealing with Retired RHI? Why do you suppose that occurred? I think I know.

Unfortunately Oahi is run by certain individuals who are unelected. Things have occurred, all well documented that indicate issues that need addressing are repeatedly covered up or no replies forth coming.

I sincerely hope people take a closer look at how their association is managed and fiduciary duties of a self regulating non profit corporation.

If you are a member of OAHI you have no rights.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by sdavies

Thanx, Roy. I have and will again be a member of the Kinsmen association in Canada, I served and both a member and on the executive and was exective of the year for my contibutions to the club in Ajax. We also had "Rivals" but it was nothing like this all I can say is "Feud" between Nachi and OAHI. Our goals were to help out the community and make it a better place and give back to the community. The goals should be similar for Nachi, we have to give back to the community and better the inspection experience for our clients and not be fighting with other organizations over whos better or worse this just takes up time and valuable resources that could be doing other things.

Steven

Thanks Steven I do appreciate all those who are a member of a service club .
They all do a fantastic job and are a big help to the comunity and man kind .
Thanks for being there .
I was a member of PACHI and then a member of OAHI with the amalgamation .
No comparison between the two .
I served on various Committees with both and do have some knowledge of the operations.
I was not happy with the way OAHI treats those who wish to become Home Inspectors .
The old Boys club do not want the RHI membership to increase and do much to hold it back.
This is why the RHI membership has stayed at just over 200 RHI for many many years .
I joined NACHI in 2003 and saw how they treat every one with help information and education that is perfect.
I did not renew my membership with OAHI.
We In NACHI have continually offered our hand to OAHI/CAHPI and they continue to ignore us Example a free both for both in the NACHI conference .
I personally phone the Pres of CAHPI and sent him a confirming email and they never even had the courtesy to answer me or NACHI .
We also offered for all CAHPI members to attend our Conference next may at NACHI members rates again this has not been passed to the CAHPI membership that I know of.
Regarding the NATIONAL certification there have been may untruths said and much information not given out to all.
Glad to have you and others as members .
If any one has questions Please do not hesitate to call or email me .

Roycooke@symaptico.ca 613-475-1144

[dcook1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

David,

Did you notice the revision of the by-laws? Did you notice how they deleted many sections dealing with Retired RHI? Why do you suppose that occurred? I think I know.

Unfortunately Oahi is run by certain individuals who are unelected. Things have occurred, all well documented that indicate issues that need addressing are repeatedly covered up or no replies forth coming.

I sincerely hope people take a closer look at how their association is managed and fiduciary duties of a self regulating non profit corporation.

If you are a member of OAHI you have no rights.

OAHI ---- RIGHTS. Raymond, you just might have created an oxymoron here.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by gluck

"I commend NACHI for growing their numbers, but let's face it, if 200 burger flippers at McDonalds took the online course today they could be 'Certified' NACHI members before tomorrow. Then you'd have 800 !!! That type of 'certification' lacks any rigor or credibility."


So much for Bill's new found spirit of cooperation. I thought that he had given up bashing NACHI for Lent.


"I don't care if you belong to 2,3,4 organizations just check your crap at the door and work with others to keep the movement positive."

This is the kind of member we need in NACHI. I wish there were more of them in "CAHPI" 12,377 members.

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George:

I was not trying to 'bash' NACHI. I was just pointing out the truth. I also understand that efforts are being made to rectify this, and I think that's great.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

George:

I was not trying to 'bash' NACHI. I was just pointing out the truth. I also understand that efforts are being made to rectify this, and I think that's great.

Bill Mullen

Bill you just made my day.

I look forward to this happening and am Glad to hear it .

Thanks Roy Cooke.......... A VERY HAPPY NACHI member

[Nick Gromicko]

I don't understand why anyone connects the size of an association to the number of members it has anyway. There are so many other quantifiable categories that are more important to individual inspectors than the number of fellow members they have.

NACHI is the larger than all other inspection trade associations combined in number of membership benefits www.nachi.org/benefits.htm number of industry vendor deals www.nachi.org/mall.htm number of events www.nachi.org/events.htm number of continuing education offerings www.nachi.org/inspectionexcellence.htm number of websites www.nachi.org/stats.htm and on and on.

We may not be able to compare apples with oranges but we sure can count the peaches, pairs, and pumpkins.

[rwand1]

Associations don't make inspectors.
Inspectors make associations.

[dcook1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Associations don't make inspectors.
Inspectors make associations.

Raymond .... you hit the nail on the head!
No truer words could be spoken!

[rwand1]

Speaking of membership and Associations, why is the following OAHI committees allowed to make decisions about membership upgrading that they do not have the power to do under the by-laws of OAHI. There appears to be conspiracy within OAHI and the following Committee to stifle those they do not wish to run for office or those they do not wish to allow the right to vote.

Admissions Review Committee / Board of Examiners

Mandate: To assess member's credentials, and to make recommendations to the membership on all matters of an educational nature including development of courses, seminars, programs, and related activities.

Andrew Bennett
Terry Carson
Andrew Dixon
Glenn Gogal
Carl D. Inglis
Andrew Radomski
Doug Silverthorn

Or

Why is the Finance Committee failing to investigate and address accounting irregularities that have been brought to their attention? Same players as in the BOE/Admissions Review

Finance
Mandate: To assist the Treasurer in re-gards to the finances of the Association, and assist in providing financial reports to the members.

Alrek Meipoom - Chair
Ralph Banks
Terry Carson
Graham Clarke

With the upcoming vote/AGM everyone needs to be assured there is no scull duggery and should be sure to vote with Proxy B and not approve anything to do with Special Assessments, or the draft budget and should be sure to ask the people above where the audited statements are and where are the quarterly reports amongst other reports required by the by-laws and the Corporations Act?

Strange how the same players have been permitted to do as they wish and collude to keep members in the dark under the pretence everything is fine when indications are that they are not.

I want answers and so do many others in OAHI as they have been lied to.

[rwand1]

Oh and by the way the OAHI Draft by-law changes have omitted the "Retired" issue because as I have pointed out all along the by-laws with regard to Retired ran contrary to PR 158 the enacting legislation. OAHI spends thousands on lawyer fees on something I have told them about for years. I love it when I am right. Can I invoice OAHI for legal advice, that the association lawyer charges exhorbitantly for?

As PR 158 unequivocally states anyone in the Registry is entitled to use RHI! Which leads to another question. If the big Bay Street lawyer writes the by-laws which seem to have been in error, with regard to Retired Status, why are is he being paid for something he obviously was negligent in advising? Now he gets to collect a possible $10k fee for changes to the by-laws for something he should have been aware of before! Nice!

So David go ahead and use RHI because no one can legally challenge your use if you are a member of which you are and will be in the Registry.

[rwand1]

What do you suppose this means?

It certainly is not correct info!

Home and Cottage Inspectors

Licencing may be required through the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors (OAHI).
For further information:
please call OAHI to 1-888-744-6244
visit the Web site http://www.oahi.com

http://www.cbsc.org/servlet/ContentS...GuideFactSheet

[rrichards2]

Originally Posted by rwand1

What do you suppose this means?

It certainly is not correct info!

Home and Cottage Inspectors

Licencing may be required through the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors (OAHI).
For further information:
please call OAHI to 1-888-744-6244
visit the Web site http://www.oahi.com

http://www.cbsc.org/servlet/ContentS...GuideFactSheet

The propaganda is working already Raymond. If they say it often enough
people start to believe it.

[rwand1]

or how about this one....

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/oca-bc.nsf/vwapj/Handbook2005_LargePrint_E.pdf/$FILE/Handbook2005_LargePrint_E.pdf

224 Page "Canadian Consumer Handbook (2005)" lists OAHI as a place to resolve complaints.

So, where do members of OAHI complain then?

It might be more than you want to download on dial up, but the Table of Contents includes:

Canadian Consumer Handbook - 2005 Edition
Being a wise consumer means being informed. This
handbook offers tips, questions and advice on
consumers' rights, along with contacts for help with
common problems.
Table of Contents
Introduction
Welcome, Preface, and Notice to Readers
General Information
Complaining Effectively
What Now? You've Talked and Written, but Still No
Results?
Canadian Consumer Information Gateway
Consumer Tips
Introduction
Advance Fee Scams
Apparel and Textile Care
Buying
Collection Agencies
Mail Order
Major Purchases
Misleading Advertising
Moving
Multilevel Marketing and Pyramid Selling Schemes
Online Fraud
Product Safety
Refund and Exchange
Rent-to-own
Telemarketing
Travel
Unfair or Deceptive Business Practices
Warranties
Directory of Organizations
Automobiles
Better Business Bureaus
Consumer Affairs Offices
Consumer Groups
Credit
Energy and Utilities
Financial Services
Funeral Services
Health and Food
The Home
Other Government Contacts

[dcook1]

Interesting, Raymond I am now trying to figure out if I should call the 888 number to become licensed by OAHI, or maybe the earlier listing for adoption and try to get adopted by somebody rich so I do not have to work anymore.

Decisions.... decisions.... decisions