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You see these forum's one way and I see them as a place where the truth comes out about how the Canadian Home Inspection industry is run . Thanks for your post's it helps keeping the facts out for all to see and thats no BULL. I call it PHPIO BULL POO not needed in our industry ! Need help on inspection call my cell 613-827-2011 I like email Roycooke@hotmail.com Never wrestle with a pig (however titled) as you just get dirty and the pig has all the fun. |
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"Than (SIC) again I now see it as a forum that promotes not just free speech but malicious, libel and slandering comments."
I wonder if you can defame an organization to the point of committing libel? |
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That's way too easy......
The law of defamation protects your reputation against false statements. We all are free to comment – even harshly – about issues of public interest, as long as our comments are honest statements of opinion, based on fact, and not malicious. Malicious in this case means the "defendant" either knew the statement was not true or did not take proper care to check. It is often covered under laws regarding defamation. Now go back and reread the posts on several forums making such false unsubstantiated claims, without taking proper care to check the facts as well as choose to continue to posts it from forum to forum. It's simply an easy copy paste of those discussions or convert to PDF. On a coffee break. Inspection Support Services Inc. "Those who can do. Those who CARE, teach" or “Teaching is the highest form of understanding.” Aristotle |
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The law of defamation protects your reputation against false statements. We all are free to comment – even harshly – about issues of public interest, as long as our comments are honest statements of opinion, based on fact, and not malicious.
Thanks Claude I guess I am ok Glad my mother raised my to be truthful Malicious in this case means the "defendant" either knew the statement was not true or did not take proper care to check. It is often covered under laws regarding defamation. Thanks Claude Glad my mother raised me to have tolerance so I guess you know who has not much to fear from me . Need help on inspection call my cell 613-827-2011 I like email Roycooke@hotmail.com Never wrestle with a pig (however titled) as you just get dirty and the pig has all the fun. |
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That's nonsense, brian. A good and ethical agent will always refer good and ethical inspectors, period! In my many years of experience, the great majority of agents are honest, ethical, and care about the welfare of their clients. They, like us, are in business to make a good living. That does not mean they are all crooked, any more than we, as inspectors are all crooked. I can only speak for myself, however.
Harold J. Lowe C.M.I., C.C.I. Eagle-Eye Healthy Home Inspections Sharondale Academy of Home Inspections www.healthyinspections.com harold@cannachi.org haroldjlowe@hotmail.com home-905-576-4337 cell-416-912-0852 CanNachi Director of Education Board Certified Master Inspector Certified Infrared Thermographer Pro-lab Certified Mould Specialist IAC2 Certified Indoor Air-quality Consultant Certified Commercial Inspector Toronto/Durham/Kawarthas Proud InterNachi Member # 06091197 |
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Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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I didn't say they were crooked (as in stealing from clients, writing illegal contracts. etc) but I do question their principles a lot! "In my many years of experience, the great majority of agents are honest, ethical, and care about the welfare of their clients." Do you really believe that Used House salespersons are much different than Used Car salespersons?? I think that since much more $$$$$$ is involved in RE commissions, there is more incentive to make the sale and recommend fluff inspections!!! Last Friday I had an inspection for a young lady (a police constable) and asked her where she got the referral to myself. She said she got it through a very good friend who knew another realtor (she didn't want to use the 3 HI names given by her agent.......maybe being a cop she was fairly savvy to realtors' referral preferences!!). When I got the name of the referring realtor, I was surprised since this realtor had never referred a client to me over the last few years ........but when he could refer an HI in an unbiased manner (since he had no interest in the transaction), he gave my name. (BTW, he used to be an HI!!!!) My Thursday inspection came as the result of 3 people in an office situation giving my name to the clients. Last edited by Brian A. MacNeish; 2/25/10 at 12:05 AM.. |
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That depends on who their client is - the buyer or the seller.
I have experienced a number of Realtors that left the house because they did not want to know what issues surfaced. So ethically if they did know the issues, would they be "ethically" responsible to "disclose" them? Inspection Support Services Inc. "Those who can do. Those who CARE, teach" or “Teaching is the highest form of understanding.” Aristotle |
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Yes,they have to disclose.
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So if the Realtor knows of the condition they must disclose, but it brings into question the fact that they still are looking out for their client the seller, and certainly not other "potential consumers" - buyers.
Inspection Support Services Inc. "Those who can do. Those who CARE, teach" or “Teaching is the highest form of understanding.” Aristotle |
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[quote=Brian A. MacNeish;626299]Harold:
I didn't say they were crooked (as in stealing from clients, writing illegal contrcts. etc) but I do question their principles at lot! Hey Brian ! I apologize, if I misunderstood you. I just get fed up reading about all these scuzzball realtors, and the fluffing inspectors who use them. I get almost all my inspections through the realtors who use me frequently. They use me over and over, because I'm a really good, and thorough inspector, not because I fluff reports! I always go the extra mile, and they like that. The clients like that, and often say so, in more ways than one. I always take whatever time the client needs to have all his questions answered, and is totally at peace with his potential purchase. Both the client and agent like that. I hope I don't sound arrogant. I'm not. I'm simply confident about what I know, and what I do. I think we're always walking a tightrope, between pleasing the client and pleasing the agent. I have learned how to please both, and not be in any way unethical. I will find every deficiency, but I will also find viable and economical solutions to the problem issues. If for some reason, that is simply not possible; it's the house breaking the deal, not me. I , personally, will not deal with an agent who has a problem with that, but in all my years of inspecting; I can count the number of such agents on one hand. Harold J. Lowe C.M.I., C.C.I. Eagle-Eye Healthy Home Inspections Sharondale Academy of Home Inspections www.healthyinspections.com harold@cannachi.org haroldjlowe@hotmail.com home-905-576-4337 cell-416-912-0852 CanNachi Director of Education Board Certified Master Inspector Certified Infrared Thermographer Pro-lab Certified Mould Specialist IAC2 Certified Indoor Air-quality Consultant Certified Commercial Inspector Toronto/Durham/Kawarthas Proud InterNachi Member # 06091197 |
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Sorry for the thread drift here, but who in their right mind ever came up with the name "CanNachi"?
You guys know that when you "can" something or someone it means to "fire them", or "throw it out", or "it's trash"? It has a negative general connotation. I don't understand, but maybe it means something different to you CanAmericans... Mark Nahrgang www.DaytonSpringfieldHomeInspector.com www.HeyMark.info Home Inspections for Springfield, Dayton, and surrounding OH areas. |
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We are proud Canadians! We originally were going to be an off-shoot of Nachi; thus CanNachi. We try not to go to the negative. Harold J. Lowe C.M.I., C.C.I. Eagle-Eye Healthy Home Inspections Sharondale Academy of Home Inspections www.healthyinspections.com harold@cannachi.org haroldjlowe@hotmail.com home-905-576-4337 cell-416-912-0852 CanNachi Director of Education Board Certified Master Inspector Certified Infrared Thermographer Pro-lab Certified Mould Specialist IAC2 Certified Indoor Air-quality Consultant Certified Commercial Inspector Toronto/Durham/Kawarthas Proud InterNachi Member # 06091197 |
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