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Old 4/14/08, 1:38 AM
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Keep Up The Great Work Nick.
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Old 4/14/08, 9:04 AM
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Nick you'll be working overtime with putting new spins on the hype. Don't get dizzy with the spin, you might fall off! And Nick thank you for asking me to serve on the CMI audit committee! George you would be a good candidate to serve on the CMI audit committee.
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Old 4/14/08, 9:26 AM
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And not that long ago, I was the one and only!
Marcel:

The INACHI test is in French also??? And Nick is in deep French immersion? Or is the test simply open to "les tetes carres" (anglophones)? Could be deep doo-doo, if not administered in French........INACHI will never be recognized by the gov't there!!!!
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Old 4/14/08, 9:43 AM
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Marcel:

The INACHI test is in French also??? And Nick is in deep French immersion? Or is the test simply open to "les tetes carres" (anglophones)? Could be deep doo-doo, if not administered in French........INACHI will never be recognized by the gov't there!!!!
That's true, Brian.

CAHPI National and the NCA have to spend about $ 25,000 per year just for translation of documents, websites, etc. into French. (We spent about $ 50,000 just from the NCP Pilot Project) To be a national organization you have no choice in the matter of bilingualism. How much do you figure it will cost to translate the iNACHI sites, etc. to French?

This rule is not just for Quebec either. Even if CAHPI had no Quebec members, we would still be obliged to do the full translation because of the Canadian Government's bilingualism policy. If iNACHI or the CMI were to ever try for official recognition from ANY government in Canada, they would be subject to the bilingualism rules the same as everyone else.

In provinces that are considering legislation of Home Inspectors, that will be a big question that all participants will have to address.

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Old 4/14/08, 9:59 AM
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That's true, Brian.

CAHPI National and the NCA have to spend about $ 25,000 per year just for translation of documents, websites, etc. into French. (We spent about $ 50,000 just from the NCP Pilot Project) To be a national organization you have no choice in the matter of bilingualism. How much do you figure it will cost to translate the iNACHI sites, etc. to French?

This rule is not just for Quebec either. Even if CAHPI had no Quebec members, we would still be obliged to do the full translation because of the Canadian Government's bilingualism policy. If iNACHI or the CMI were to ever try for official recognition from ANY government in Canada, they would be subject to the bilingualism rules the same as everyone else.

In provinces that are considering legislation of Home Inspectors, that will be a big question that all participants will have to address.

Bill Mullen
Actually, New brunswick is the only bilingual province by law; Quebec is not recognized as a bilingual province......French dominates.......they've got sign inspectors looking for English and other languages that are predominant on signs. About a month or so ago, there was a bit of a minor uproar about Guinnes and other poster type signs in a pub without having a French equivalent. Go figure!!
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With licencing on the horizon in Quebec and only 12 members in Nachi, licencing will be based on the largest common denominator and that would be CAHPI/National -AIBQ

Le programme de la Certification Nationale pour les inspecteurs de biens immobiliers a été mis sur pied par des inspecteurs de biens immobiliers pratiquant ŕ travers le Canada.

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Actually, New brunswick is the only bilingual province by law; Quebec is not recognized as a bilingual province......French dominates.......they've got sign inspectors looking for English and other languages that are predominant on signs. About a month or so ago, there was a bit of a minor uproar about Guinnes and other poster type signs in a pub without having a French equivalent. Go figure!!
The provincial laws govern provincial bodies or organizations within their own borders. Any organization that wishes to have a national presence is governed by the Canadian biligualism regulations. These guarantee the use of both official languages in all provinces. That is why CAHPI, CREA, etc. who are national entities have to be bilingual in most things. They are obliged to 'reasonably' comply with bilingualism regulations.

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Old 4/14/08, 10:24 AM
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The provincial laws govern provincial bodies or organizations within their own borders. Any organization that wishes to have a national presence is governed by the Canadian biligualism regulations. These guarantee the use of both official languages in all provinces. That is why CAHPI, CREA, etc. who are national entities have to be bilingual in most things. They are obliged to 'reasonably' comply with bilingualism regulations.

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Gee it looks to me like NACHI is not doing bad on having a
National Presence to me.

Ontario 349
British Columbia 61
Alberta 28
Saskatchewan 17
Nova Scotia 15
Quebec 12
New Brunswick 8
Manitoba 2
Newfoundland 1
Northwest Territories 0
Nunavut 0
Prince Edward Island 0
Yukon 0

Total 500
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And Nick thank you for asking me to serve on the CMI audit committee!
I can assure you, that this will NEVER happen.
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If NACHI ever wants national recognition by any government agencies they will need to 'reasonably' comply with the biligualism regulations.

Roy, I'm not saying these things to attack NACHI, merely pointing out that there might be some future steps to take as things evolve. NACHI should know what to expect in the future.

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Old 4/14/08, 11:02 AM
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Ray,



I can assure you, that this will NEVER happen.
We must all understand what says is Gospel.


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Roy,

Your point?
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Old 4/14/08, 11:08 AM
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Gee it looks to me like NACHI is not doing bad on having a
National Presence to me.

Ontario 349
British Columbia 61
Alberta 28
Saskatchewan 17
Nova Scotia 15
Quebec 12
New Brunswick 8
Manitoba 2
Newfoundland 1
Northwest Territories 0
Nunavut 0
Prince Edward Island 0
Yukon 0

Total 500
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Doesn't look too good, Roy.

From the article in The Independent- April 18/2007:

"The association is home to more than 10,000 members with about 700 in Canada."

700- 500 = minus 200 members/inspectors........Poor Doctor Spin......but even worse........further on in the article, you are RIGHT ON:

"For the next 3 years, these people are out trying to learn how to do home inspections off people who are trying to buy a house and they have no knowledge"

"90 percent of home inspectors never last 3 years. It's so heartbreaking, it's not fair to them and it's not fair to people who are trying to buy a house."

It's time to stop the HI mills to protect the public. With the fast rate of growth in the numbers of newbies, the problems will grow and the somewhat questionable reputation of the HI industry will suffer. We need a rigid training system with proctoring and verifiable mentoring. People shouldn't essentially be able to walk in off the street to become CHI's in a week or two.
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Old 4/14/08, 11:14 AM
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People shouldn't essentially be able to walk in off the street to become CHI's in a week or two.
If they can't make it in two weeks, they can always join 'come with cash only' ASHI in 30 seconds.



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Old 4/14/08, 11:25 AM
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Doesn't look too good, Roy.

From the article in The Independent- April 18/2007:

"The association is home to more than 10,000 members with about 700 in Canada."

700- 500 = minus 200 members/inspectors........Poor Doctor Spin......but even worse........further on in the article, you are RIGHT ON:

"For the next 3 years, these people are out trying to learn how to do home inspections off people who are trying to buy a house and they have no knowledge"

"90 percent of home inspectors never last 3 years. It's so heartbreaking, it's not fair to them and it's not fair to people who are trying to buy a house."

It's time to stop the HI mills to protect the public. With the fast rate of growth in the numbers of newbies, the problems will grow and the somewhat questionable reputation of the HI industry will suffer. We need a rigid training system with proctoring and verifiable mentoring. People shouldn't essentially be able to walk in off the street to become CHI's in a week or two.
I care less how you spin it I have been a member of PACHI, OAHI/CAHPI and NACHI.
From my experience PACHI was the best Canadian association by far and the biggest mistake they made was listening to OAHI and amalgamating with OAHI.
It is a disaster very poorly run and out for the RHI members and the Teaching directors.
They care less about the public do not answer question do little for the members.
There is no comparison between what NACHI and CAHPI does for this industry. NACHI is open and above board answers all questions and is not run by a secret society that gives out nothing but smoke and mirrors.
You are a prime example you have more experienced then many in the CAHPI association and are afraid to say any thing or you will never get your RHI.
You have no where to communicate except via the NACHI web site as CAHPI first of all closed theirs to out siders and then even closed it completely so the Canadians only have the NACHI site to get information.
NACHI is not perfect but sure is a lot better then all the Canadian associations combined.

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