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Old 5/29/11, 8:45 PM
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Nick:
You took the thought right out of my mind! I was going to use the graduated license as an example for young teenagers that can text and drive at the same time.
Very talented but very stupid all at the same time.
Even a license to kill before they are old enough to understand the pain and damage they can afflict on someone.



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While this is certainly helpful to NACHI and its members, striving for "government approval" is like entering a race with the burning desire and commitment to finish in Fourth Place.

Every once in a while, I suppose it is necessary to lower the bar for "government approval" to help inspectors who are less fortunate than others and are controlled NOT by their consumer markets but, instead, by politicians who know little to nothing about our industry.

So these same polititians must "know know little to nothing" about most other areas that they create legislation for also.....or are they experts on everything else they create legislation for except the HI induastry!!

Never forget that a lunch meat sandwich with an "acceptable" quantity of rat feces meets the same "government approval" standards that many licensing proponents covet. The truth is (and always will be) that the consumer prefers, and we should always strive to provide, much more than "government approved" standards when we are dealing with the public. I think that NACHI has proven this ability in this regard by its popularity in areas where inspectors are not controlled by politicians and those who buy them. Meeting minimum "government standards" is easy. Ask the guy who checks lunch meat for "acceptable" levels of rat poop.

Just think how much rat crap there would be in the meat if there were no health regulations at all!!

Inspectors with the desire to control other inspectors ... and product/service providers who need the government to mandate what others would never buy on their own ... hold "government approval" at a much higher level of appeal than does the public-at-large.
Got any stats......Have you ever asked clients if they felt HI should be regulated?...........No......I thought so!!
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Old 5/30/11, 9:35 AM
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BRIAN. STILL WAITING;

HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED IN ONE YEAR?
HOW MANY OF THOSE INSPECTIONS LEAD TO MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINT?

It would be a good idea to establish a need for your dangerous schemes before inflicting them on everyone else, don't you think?
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BRIAN. STILL WAITING;

HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED IN ONE YEAR?
HOW MANY OF THOSE INSPECTIONS LEAD TO MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINT?

It would be a good idea to establish a need for your dangerous schemes before inflicting them on everyone else, don't you think?
BTW, I don't live in BC or Alberta......don't know how my dangerous schemes got to be law out there?
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Well, George. I see that time away from these boards still hasn't changed an ancient mindset even when it should be evident that LICENSING IS COMING!!! WATCH CAREFULLY!!

What other trades/professions SHOULDN'T be regulated? Are you tired of HI and think you'll hang a shingle as a mechanic or dentist after passing an unproctored online test?
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Old 5/30/11, 2:20 PM
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Read about how a licensed person who was at the top of his Group caused a lot of innocent people to go to jail .
This licensedperson destroyed a lot of people lives.
This is just one of many where a licensed person has caused a major amount of grief .


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...e-inquiry.html

My opinion there is no proof where it is necessary to spend a huge amount of money licensing Home Inspectors.

From what I read the BBB puts home Inspection a way down the complaint list .

I would love to see some facts showing where the Licensing of Home Inspectors is needed.




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Read about how a licensed person who was at the top of his Group caused a lot of innocent people to go to jail .
This licensedperson destroyed a lot of people lives.
This is just one of many where a licensed person has caused a major amount of grief .


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...e-inquiry.html

My opinion there is no proof where it is necessary to spend a huge amount of money licensing Home Inspectors.

From what I read the BBB puts home Inspection a way down the complaint list .

I would love to see some facts showing where the Licensing of Home Inspectors is needed.

You should read the article and comments!!!!!


"When it comes to autopsy reports, the field of pathology can be a subjective one. It's based on research and opinion, and it's especially controversial in Canada, where there is no formal training or certification process. Only a handful of practitioners in Ontario are entrusted with the job — and they've learned by doing."


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It proves that there are supremely arrogant and un-qualified people in fields that are extremely serious and yet they do not need to pass formal standards testing...yet their opinion can destroy your life because we put a lot of weight behind their so-called expert opinions"


IMHO, the guy had some mental and judgement problems.......shouldn't have had the job.

I guess, Roy if this fellow is representative of all doctors in Ontario, no one would ever go to one!! Do you use the services of a licensed, regulated doctor or are there some good witch doctors around that you trust with your life????

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Old 5/30/11, 3:03 PM
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Read about how a licensed person who was at the top of his Group caused a lot of innocent people to go to jail .
This licensedperson destroyed a lot of people lives.
This is just one of many where a licensed person has caused a major amount of grief .


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...e-inquiry.html

My opinion there is no proof where it is necessary to spend a huge amount of money licensing Home Inspectors.

From what I read the BBB puts home Inspection a way down the complaint list .

I would love to see some facts showing where the Licensing of Home Inspectors is needed.
Nova Scotia is a lot smaller then Ontario and I expect it has a lot less doctors then Ontario has Home Inspectors .
Looks to me like you might want to look at your medical system in Nova Scotia and spend less time worrying about Ontario Home Inspectors.
This is just a small sample of what is going on in your home province .
Brian What is your opinion of this

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-17/j...gs?_s=PM:CRIME

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-17/j...gs?_s=PM:CRIME

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...-kentucky.html

http://canadiancriminallaw.net/?p=143

http://www.quadrant.net/cpss/discipline/discipline.html

http://www.halifaxmedicalmalpractice...fired_and.html

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nov...-wifes-doctor/



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Nova Scotia is a lot smaller then Ontario and I expect it has a lot less doctors then Ontario has Home Inspectors .
Looks to me like you might want to look at your medical system in Nova Scotia and spend less time worrying about Ontario Home Inspectors.
This is just a small sample of what is going on in your home province .
Brian What is your opinion of this

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-17/j...gs?_s=PM:CRIME

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-17/j...gs?_s=PM:CRIME

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...-kentucky.html

http://canadiancriminallaw.net/?p=143

http://www.quadrant.net/cpss/discipline/discipline.html

http://www.halifaxmedicalmalpractice...fired_and.html

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nov...-wifes-doctor/
Roy:

Thanks for showing the boards what a piece of crap you are!!!

You clearly can't read and understand what the article said so when I point it out, you use innuendo, imply and insinuate that that Nova Scotians are unprincipled and lawless low life......how low can you go!!! OH I GUESS WE ALREADY SAW THAT WITH WENDY FORSYTHE WHOM YOU, OH BIG MAN, DROVE FROM THESE BOARDS!!!

There are posts here where you say that Nova Scotians are very friendly, nice people and then a few months later, imply the province was backwards for being the last to have full Sunday shopping.....who are you tonight...Jeckyll or Hyde??

You gave an example from the medical community that was supposed to show that licensing/regulation doesn't work. The article you presented showed 2 things clearly:

1) that all individuals are not stable and trustworthy at all times......that has nothing to do with licensing/regulation/supervision.....not one thing.....it happens many times in life. For example.........
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...d-on-bail.aspx

2) The article states that training/certification is not available nor required for coroners........Maybe a bit of this may have made this man a better coroner and prevented him from ruining the lives of many people!!!

Read this many times until you can understand what it says:

"When it comes to autopsy reports, the field of pathology can be a subjective one. It's based on research and opinion, and it's especially controversial in Canada, where there is no formal training or certification process. Only a handful of practitioners in Ontario are entrusted with the job — and they've learned by doing."



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Old 5/30/11, 9:23 PM
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WOW Brian has come through again He just loves to come into our home and belittle us.
But when some one shows him up he cries like the BABY he is.
He can dish it out but does not like it when it comes back.
Brian you are a parasite who uses others all the time .

Your Jealousy of NACHI is showing



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WOW Brian has come through again He just loves to come into our home and belittle us.
But when some one shows him up he cries like the BABY he is.
He can dish it out but does not like it when it comes back.
Brian you are a parasite who uses others all the time .

Your Jealousy of NACHI is showing
Heard it all somewhere before.......Wait!! Wait!!! It was from you!!! LOL

G'Night again, Roy!! Don't go to bed mad, Roy, just go to bed!!
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