Looks like NACHI's Convention is going to be better than free!

[rwand1]

Bill

Your foaming at the mouth again. You are the author of your own misfortune. You tried to push your weight around on the CAFE along with your lap dog Editor and then you had the audacity to quote complete lies in the Sarnia Observer and other forums! You didn't have the manners or the good will to correct what you and others new to be complete and utter lies, you shrugged them off.

You also have manipulated people in OAHI and CAHPI with your nonsense and drawn them into your con job. Fortunately people other than myself and the others are smart enought to see through your baloney. You folks can't even pathom the need to send the COO to do the selliing of your program. If this bull**** were perpetrated on shareholders of a corporation they would be calling for the resignation of the COO and CEO who have continually aided and abetted you in your con job.

Take your sand shovel and pail and find another sand box to throw sand in peoples faces.

As to information there hasn't been any information that anyone can't get from CMHC.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Bill

Your foaming at the mouth again. You are the author of your own misfortune. You tried to push your weight around on the CAFE along with your lap dog Editor and then you had the audacity to quote complete lies in the Sarnia Observer and other forums! You didn't have the manners or the good will to correct what you and others new to be complete and utter lies, you shrugged them off.

You also have manipulated people in OAHI and CAHPI with your nonsense and drawn them into your con job. Fortunately people other than myself and the others are smart enought to see through your baloney. You folks can't even pathom the need to send the COO to do the selliing of your program. If this bull**** were perpetrated on shareholders of a corporation they would be calling for the resignation of the COO and CEO who have continually aided and abetted you in your con job.

Take your sand shovel and pail and find another sand box to throw sand in peoples faces.

As to information there hasn't been any information that anyone can't get from CMHC.

Same old pile of crap out of your mouth, eh, Raymond? It's hardly my misfortune. Actually, knuckle-dragging Vern has given me the perfect reason to just walk away from this bunch.

Why would CAHPI send anyone to speak to a mob of people who don't want to hear the truth? CAHPI didn't send me to sell anything....I've made that clear from the brginning. In fact, the majority are against any representation at a convention for an unrecognized group such as NACHI.

You can call it a con job or whatever you want. Who needs you anyway? I have said many times that I really don't care if any NACHI people sign up or not. This was not going to be a sales job, because we really don't care if you folks are interested. We've made sure the information is available, and that's all we are required to do.

Keep blathering on, Raymond. You and Kook deserve each other.

I have this morning officially notified Dee and Nick that they need to get another Keynote Speaker, because there is no reason for me to attend. As you say, the information is on various websites, so knock yourself out. I was the only one from CAHPI foolish enough to even consider coming to speak. There will be nobody else from CAHPI because nobody else will want to put themself through the garbage that you and your lynch mob made me endure.

A for lies, you and Kook are living lies every day. I have nothing to change at the Sarnia Observer or anywhere else. I have never said anything that can't be verified as true. You and Roy on the other hand............I haven't seen either of you in person for long time. Your noses must be pretty long by now.

May I ask all NACHI members to stand up and applaud the R & R Crap Show. They have won the day. Bill Mullen is gone !!!

Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

Bill

I know you have no intention of correcting the lies you perpetrated in the Sarnia Observer, or on other forums you negligently stated erroneous info on, because you can't deal in truths that is very obvious.

A for lies, you and Kook are living lies every day. I have nothing to change at the Sarnia Observer or anywhere else. I have never said anything that can't be verified as true. You and Roy on the other hand............I haven't seen either of you in person for long time. Your noses must be pretty long by now.

Okay Bill, please verify the info that were attributed to you in the Sarnia Observer, where in you were quoted as stating..

According to an article in the December 19th Business Buzz section of the London Free Press, Bill Mullen, owner of Bluewater Home Inspection in Sarnia, Ontario has been named to head a national program which is set to begin certifying home inspectors in Canada in 2006.

The program is a joint project involving Canada Mortgage Housing Corporation, Human Resource and Skills Development Canada, the Canadian Federal Ministry of Housing, and the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors (CAHPI) and is the culmination of 8 years of effort aimed at educating, assessing and certifying about 5,000 Canadian inspectors under the umbrella of CAHPI. So far, preparations have cost more than $2,000,000 (CN).

Mullen will oversee the implementation phase of the program and will direct the certification process of individual practitioners and the accreditation of educational institutions involved in training. The target is to have all practicing inspectors in Canada certified by the end of 2007.

Mullen has been an inspector for 13 years and has held positions on the boards of both the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors (OAHI) and its counterpart CAHPI.

For more information about this program, including a breakdown of the core skills of home inspectors and details ofthe actual certification process, visit the CAHPI website.

When you can verify the information as being accurate, please provide evidence to back up your negligent misrepresentation so that we can all have faith in what you and CAHPI/National know is complete and utter nonsense. Even CMHC confirmed to me that its all voluntary, and is not meant to be anything but a voluntary program.

[rwand1]

Bill also wrote on another forum ....

Test Inspections with Peer Reviews (TIPR) is part of our National Certification program. I agree it is a daunting task, but we feel it is necessary to ensure that even the old-timers like me are doing inspections right. Yes, I will have to pass one.

We actually have some government money to develop the protocol and train 'reviewers' but the examination process should pay for itself.
We will train several 'reviewers' who will be very experienced inspectors. Hopefully, many will be either retired or close to retirement. We call them 'Emeritus Volunteers' although we will be paying them an honorarium.
Inspectors being Peer Reviewed will pay a fee (amount still to be determined) which should offset the cost to
CAHPI.

If we examine 5000 inspectors in a period of six months, that is about 200 per week. If we have a team of twenty examiners across Canada, that's only ten per week per examiner. We estimate that each examiner can
process five or six people per day. Like most jobs, they don't seem so bad when you break them down into chunks.

[rwand1]

Raymond Wand reply to the above quote of Bills...

Please note.

This program is not mandatory, it is voluntary.
The numbers being quoted are high.
None of this has been ratified by the membership of the provincial associations which make up CAHPI.

Not everyone will want to be certified because no one knows how it will affect their business. To suggest there will be 5,000 is grossly mistating reality.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[rwand1]

Bill replied and contradicted himself in the same forum from what was quoted in the Sarnia Observer. Bill you corrected yourself on the forum from which this is quoted why not take the extra step and correct a news article that has a readership in the ten's of thousands?

Raymond:
We have never said this was a mandatory certification, but we suspect that when inspectors recognize the benefits they will quite willingly sign up.
The numbers are based on government studies which a few years ago identified about 5000 home inspectors in Canada. They were not pulled out of thin air.

The memberhsip of every CAHPI association in Canada has ratified this in one way or another. They have all agreed to back the National Certification Project many years ago. CAHPI National also has a signed document
showing buy-in by all seven associations.

It is voluntary, and if people don't want to sign up, that's their choice. Who knows how anything will afect our business? All I know is that this is a very positive step to bringing consistency and credibility to our profession in
Canada.

Bill Mullen

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Same old pile of crap out of your mouth, eh, Raymond? It's hardly my misfortune. Actually, knuckle-dragging Vern has given me the perfect reason to just walk away from this bunch.

Why would CAHPI send anyone to speak to a mob of people who don't want to hear the truth? CAHPI didn't send me to sell anything....I've made that clear from the brginning. In fact, the majority are against any representation at a convention for an unrecognized group such as NACHI.

You can call it a con job or whatever you want. Who needs you anyway? I have said many times that I really don't care if any NACHI people sign up or not. This was not going to be a sales job, because we really don't care if you folks are interested. We've made sure the information is available, and that's all we are required to do.

Keep blathering on, Raymond. You and Kook deserve each other.

I have this morning officially notified Dee and Nick that they need to get another Keynote Speaker, because there is no reason for me to attend. As you say, the information is on various websites, so knock yourself out. I was the only one from CAHPI foolish enough to even consider coming to speak. There will be nobody else from CAHPI because nobody else will want to put themself through the garbage that you and your lynch mob made me endure.

A for lies, you and Kook are living lies every day. I have nothing to change at the Sarnia Observer or anywhere else. I have never said anything that can't be verified as true. You and Roy on the other hand............I haven't seen either of you in person for long time. Your noses must be pretty long by now.

May I ask all NACHI members to stand up and applaud the R & R Crap Show. They have won the day. Bill Mullen is gone !!!

Bill Mullen

For the record

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Bill

I know you have no intention of correcting the lies you perpetrated in the Sarnia Observer, or on other forums you negligently stated erroneous info on, because you can't deal in truths that is very obvious.

Okay Bill, please verify the info that were attributed to you in the Sarnia Observer, where in you were quoted as stating..

When you can verify the information as being accurate, please provide evidence to back up your negligent misrepresentation so that we can all have faith in what you and CAHPI/National know is complete and utter nonsense. Even CMHC confirmed to me that its all voluntary, and is not meant to be anything but a voluntary program.

Read it again, Raymond. I was NOT quoted as saying anything. Nonetheless, the information is pretty good.

Bill Mullen

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Roy, you lying old fool.

The word NACHI hasn't even been mentioned on the Canuck Forum in over a week. The Canuck members are there to discuss Home Inspecting, not to waste time trying to badmouth anyone and anything as you seem compelled to do here.

If you were honest even a bit, you would mention that I have promoted the Convention to the members and some others have also encouraged attendance. Never once has anyone called anyone else an idiot for wanting to attend, as you have stated. Sure, a couple people don't like the idea, but that's their God-given right.

Since you seem intent on convincing Nick that there is some truth to your lies, I am opening the Canuck Forum to him so he can view all of the messages for the last year. He will be able to see for himself that as usual you have been spewing nothing but hateful lies.

You are an evil, dishonest person. You try to hide behind the 'right to free speech' but that doesn't give you the right to lie and slander people. I and many others have had just about enough out of you.

Bill Mullen

For the record

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Go for it, you pompous, myopic, illiterate ***.

I guess you haven't read any other messages by anyone else here who might have crossed the line. It's amazing that so many have selective vision in NACHI.

It's strange how you give the NACHI Clown of the Year a free ride. He can attack and slander me, Claude, CAHPI, OAHI and anyone else he wishes without you saying a peep. Same goes for his buddy Raymond. Somehow you don't see any problem with their posts.

Bill Mullen
NOT a NACHI member

For the record

[rwand1]

Bill further replied... and back tracked, and said its a free country! Yes Bill thats right a free country where we are free to disseminate and question what is suppose to be truthful information from a body that has a duty to ensure the facts are truthful!

So what if you believe the government numbers are high? Have you done a study and count as they did? What scientific method did you use that you would arrive at different figures than they did?

OAHI, just as the other associations, has agreed to the entire process. If you feel your provincial association has not consulted the members, that is between you and OAHI. It has nothing to do with CAHPI National or
me.......it's an internal provincial matter.

There is nothing misleading in the Free Press article at all. You choose to interpret things whichever way will work the best for you.
Of course it remains to be seen how many will apply. I can't and won't argue with you about numbers that are unknown. I am optimistic so my numbers will be high. You on the other hand are a 'glass is half empty' type, so your estimates are very low. Our goal is to have most Canadian Inspectors certified by the end of 2007.
We
can't force anyone to apply, and if they choose to stay away, that's just fine. We all have a right to operate our own business however we wish. I can tell you that we already have hundreds of names of inspectors who want to be assessed, including many who are not members of CAHPI associations.

If we have 5000 National Certificate Holders that would be phenomenal. However, if there are only 1000 at the end of the day, that just means that there will be thousands of inspectors missing out on a great opportunity.

It's a free country.
Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

Okay so knowing what was said and what was written in the Free Press and then for you Bill to contradict what you were quoted as saying in the Free Press speaks volumes about the truth!

You can't tell the same story twice and now you tell us you never made those statements! Beautiful and Priceless! As to opportunities is seems no one will be missing out on any "great opportunities" other than the opportunities to be misled.

[rwand1]

Bill

No use trying to deny what was said, its now part of the official record, like your comment in writing wherein you said, "Nachi will be irrelevant." I guess you didn't say that either?

Or how about your comments about me on the CAFE wherein, you implied I was breaking the by-laws because I was retired while inspecting?

Shall I go on?

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Go for it, you pompous, myopic, illiterate ***.

I guess you haven't read any other messages by anyone else here who might have crossed the line. It's amazing that so many have selective vision in NACHI.

It's strange how you give the NACHI Clown of the Year a free ride. He can attack and slander me, Claude, CAHPI, OAHI and anyone else he wishes without you saying a peep. Same goes for his buddy Raymond. Somehow you don't see any problem with their posts.

Bill Mullen
NOT a NACHI member

OK so you are a guest.

It has been my experience that people judge others by their own standards. Your comments provide ample evidence of your standards.
To put it in simple terms; If you are an honest person, you assume other people are honest. Your comments make it very clear where your standards lie.
Have a good day. I know I will.

[David Nice]

Let's see, what was the subject here ,,, oh, yes, the NACHI convention. I know you don;t need a passport to drive into Canada but I heard you need to bring as birth certificate. Can anyone confirm what ID we need to drive into Canada?