Looks like NACHI's Convention is going to be better than free!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by dnice

Let's see, what was the subject here ,,, oh, yes, the NACHI convention. I know you don;t need a passport to drive into Canada but I heard you need to bring as birth certificate. Can anyone confirm what ID we need to drive into Canada?

Comming into Canada is not usually a problem .
It is your Customs on the way home they need to be sure you really are an American.
They seem to except most photo ID like drivers License etc.

I can not say this strong enough Please leave your guns at home .
Not allowed to bring guns into Canada.

Hope to meet many of our great southern friends next month

Roy Cooke

[dplummer]

I don't want to say I told you so, but, when it was first announced that Bill Mullen was going to be the NACHI keynote convention speaker I warned you then he'd be a no show. A good predictor of the future is the past. Thus History has repeated it self. Hope you guys had a back up plan. Doug

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by dplummer

I don't want to say I told you so, but, when it was first announced that Bill Mullen was going to be the NACHI keynote convention speaker I warned you then he'd be a no show. A good predictor of the future is the past. Thus History has repeated it self. Hope you guys had a back up plan. Doug

Doug

I find that when people don't want to do something, they will find every excuse not to. Bill's excuse[s] is complicated but an an excuse just same.
What I don't understand is why did he even bother to commit himself in the first place.

[rwand1]

Well they should be sending Mr. Guihan as I had suggested in the first place, but it would appear he is no better at ensuring the truth is accurate either along with others on the BOD of CAHPI/National, who knowingly let false information stand as the truth in the newspapers and then deny there was anything untruthful about it.

It appears that its easier to tell lies than be truthful. Now we have the RCMP Commissioner caught in lies about the Mounties Pension fund. We seem to be living in a society where lies are the norm and the truth is harder and harder to find and to be told. Scary.

[rwand1]

Oh by the way... and just a suggestion...

But the key note speaker has confirmed earlier on this very board that he will not be attending, so we shouldn't be sending out an erroneous signal about who the keynote speaker at this link.

http://www.nachi.org/convention2007

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Well they should be sending Mr. Guihan as I had suggested in the first place, but it would appear he is no better at ensuring the truth is accurate either along with others on the BOD of CAHPI/National, who knowingly let false information stand as the truth in the newspapers and then deny there was anything untruthful about it.

It appears that its easier to tell lies than be truthful. Now we have the RCMP Commissioner caught in lies about the Mounties Pension fund. We seem to be living in a society where lies are the norm and the truth is harder and harder to find and to be told. Scary.

This all started when I called the Michael Guihan president of CAHPI and offered CAHPI and OAHI a free both at the NACHI Toronto Conference.
Bill attacked me and said I was a nothing and had no authority and away he went.
I also sent a confirming letter to Mike Guihan and to Dee at the same time asking for him to please confirm our phone call and my offer.
Unfortunately CAHPI did not reply to me and I do not think they replied to Dee the Convention Director.
I am disappointed in that This should have been a great opportunity for NACHI and the Canadian CAHPI members to get to know one another.
From what I see many of those CAHPI members who care about this industry
will be there even though I have been told they are being treated very poorly by some of the CAHPI Directors ,
. Some are not from Ontario , This disappointed me severely as I thought they where great lever headed people .
I guess It goes back to the original treatment they got and that intimidation still rears its ugly head in the Canadian Associations.
They loose their dignity giving into and continuing this treatment off their members.

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/lets-not-forget-whistler-4935/

Roy Cooke

[jbreazeale]

An observation on the truth:

"Any fool can tell the truth. But it requires a man of some sense to know how to lie well." Samuel Butler

OR:

"Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." F.M. Cornford

And finally, just for good measure:

"The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye: the more light you pour upon it, the more it wil contract." Oliver Wendell Holmes

NACHI ROCKS!!!!!!

NICK IS A GENIUS!!!

Jimmy B.

[Brian C. Hoagland]

It has become obvious there is a need for NACHI to expand into the countries in the world where the religion of Islam is most prevalent. That way, the message boards can become a forum by which the different sects can resolve their problems, air their differences and individuals can make complete a-holes of themselves in order for the balance of power to shift. Should have posted this as a new thread!!!!
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[alarsen1]

Originally Posted by dnice

Let's see, what was the subject here ,,, oh, yes, the NACHI convention. I know you don;t need a passport to drive into Canada but I heard you need to bring as birth certificate. Can anyone confirm what ID we need to drive into Canada?

Hey David,
I'm just reading through this thread now so perhaps your question has already been answered. But if it hasn't, you're probably right in that a drivers licence and birth certificate are fine for entering Canada... but you might want to check with US Customs to confirm that you will be able to re-enter your own country without a passport. I live right along the border and know that they are being very strict about that these days.

Cheers,
Arne

[Claude Lawrenson]

I agree with Arne - you need 2 pieces of ID to drive back and forth through the US-Canada border. Down here at the Detroit-Windsor border, they typically ask for drivers license and birth certificate.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Looks like this could be the best idea yet .


Border driver's licence plan gains traction TheStar.com - News - Border driver's licence plan gains traction
Ontario officials see progress in battle to develop an alternative to passports

April 24, 2007
Tim Harper
Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON–More northern U.S. border states are expected to request permission to test enhanced drivers' licences for their residents returning from Canada – a move Ontario officials are hailing as major progress in their battle to ease tough new land-border requirements.
Ontario Tourism Minister Jim Bradley said yesterday U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials told him that Vermont could follow the lead of a Washington state pilot project to see if secure licences can be used instead of passports or special identification cards when new border regulations come into force.
Bradley said Queen's Park has begun discussions with Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land to begin a pilot project at Ontario-Michigan crossings, the busiest access points between the two nations.
There are almost 15 million vehicle crossings each year at the two Detroit-Windsor border points, another 6 million at Sarnia/Port Huron and another 2.6 million at Sault Ste. Marie.
Bradley said Homeland Security has a "major challenge" ahead to institute the new border-security measures by the preferred date of Jan. 1, 2008 and said meeting such a deadline now is highly unlikely.
Under its current plan, the Bush administration would require a passport or separate identity card of everyone crossing by land from Canada into the U.S. The administration's PASScard concept would be a machine-readable credit card-sized document that contains information similar to a passport. It would be half the cost of obtaining a passport.
The secure or enhanced driver's licence that provinces and some U.S. states are working on would be scanned and provide encrypted information, using technology such as radio-frequency identification chips, confirming proof of citizenship.
In a recent interview with the Star, Vermont Republican Governor Douglas expressed grave concerns that the new U.S. border rules would hurt his state's tourism industry. He called the program – the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, known by its acronym WHTI – "a four-letter word."
Douglas, chair of the New England Governors' Conference, said he agrees with Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty's plan for the enhanced licences and he said he would agree to upgrade the Vermont licence to meet Homeland Security requirements.
Homeland Security spokesperson Russ Knocke said there have been preliminary discussions between his department and both Vermont and Michigan on the use of enhanced licences.
"This is good news for those of us on the Canadian side," Bradley said.
"The idea of allowing an upgraded driver's licence to cross the border appears to be gaining some momentum. A new flexibility seems to be apparent at Homeland Security and (U.S) State (Department)."
The first pilot project, on the west coast, is set to begin next January and could run until June 2009, the latest date that new land-border rules could begin under congressional legislation.
Two pending bills, one in the U.S. Senate and another in the House of Representatives, would force the Bush administration to wait for the results of those pilot projects before moving ahead on the new rules.
The B.C.-Washington project was sparked by fears of border backlogs during the 2010 Winter Olympics in the province.
"This pilot project is a way to boost security at our border without hampering trade and tourism," Washington Democratic Governor Christine Gregoire said in announcing the plan last month.
She reached the agreement with B.C Premier Gordon Campbell and will make drivers' licences available on a voluntary basis with information one would find on a passport, including proof of citizenship, identity, residence, birthdate and a unique identifying number.
They would cost $40 (U.S.), less than half the rate of a U.S. passport.
Ottawa is reviewing the B.C. request to allow similar licences to be issued there, but Bradley said he has been assured by the government of Stephen Harper that such licences could be available there and other provinces, including Ontario, by the end of this year.
"I think we're going to see more border states and provinces moving in this direction," Bradley said.
He said Ottawa has signalled that it would co-operate with any province that wants to make its licences more secure.
Maryscott Greenwood, executive director of the Canadian-American Business Council, said there is an emerging bipartisan effort among governors and legislators here to convince the Bush administration that this initiative must be implemented correctly and the pilot projects will be crucial to that end.
"There is an increasing drumbeat that is saying `let's get this right,'" Greenwood said.

[dmoore3]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Comming into Canada is not usually a problem .
It is your Customs on the way home they need to be sure you really are an American.
They seem to except most photo ID like drivers License etc.

I can not say this strong enough Please leave your guns at home .
Not allowed to bring guns into Canada.

Hope to meet many of our great southern friends next month

Roy Cooke

I think one will have less issues re-entering the US if they have a Passport. I know it's a bit late but that's been my experience.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by rcooke

I can not say this strong enough Please leave your guns at home .
Not allowed to bring guns into Canada.

Hope to meet many of our great southern friends next month

Roy Cooke

Dang! Where's the fun in that?

[William J. Decker]

My son-in-law has triple citizenship, U.S., Canadian and British (His father is a britich citizen, residing in Canada, his mother (was) a U.S. citizen and he was born in Canada.

My he and my daughter recently went to Toronto, to visit his family. They told me that Driver's license is find to get back into the U.S. They also recommended that drivers (from the Chicago and western areas) cross at Port Huron, rather than at Detroit. They say it is quicker (not so many people) and easier (less hassle).

I am driving up and will take I-94 / I-69 (from Lansing) to cross at Port Huron and proceed on to Toronto on the 402 untill it links up with the 401 straight on to Toronto.

Hope this helps;

[rwand1]

I drove down to Florida two weeks ago and crossed at Windsor (Ambassador Bridge) on Good Friday, it took two hours. Border officers were walking up through the line up randomly pre checking cars and opening selected vehicles.

On the return portion we entered Canada within minutes. We all had passports.