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[James H. Bushart]

George, it appears that your friend, Mr. Wand, performed a great disservice to your industry in Canada by linking himself and his libelous statements to information that was of value to you.

Of course, your choice to again blame those who enforce the rules as opposed to blaming the one who blatantly chose to break them, is your choice to make.

Perhaps even the usual select few will agree with you. It should still be obvious that these arguments that have been so ineffective in returning Wand will be as equally ineffective in returning his posts and threads.

I am certain that the harm that he caused by the various laws and rules that he broke with his libelous and outlandish claims was such that the gain of ridding the message board of them far outweighed the loss of any useful information that they might contain from other contributors.

I support Chris's actions as being sound and in the best interest of the membership.

[Ray Wand]

Best interests Bushfart? What would you know about best interests?

You are a sham as is NACHI and free speech.

I like how you go onto Inspection News and log on as Harvey Hempelstern

Where is the support for NACHI there. I don't see anyone comming to the aid of your NACHI group there. As a matter of fact its interesting to read the various posts knocking NACHI as nothing but a fraud.

[George A. H. Luck]

James, you should try out for the Olympics as you are without equal when it comes to jumping to conclusions. Show me where in my previous message I mentioned returning Ray Wand to the fold. I didn't. You just cannot let it go at that.

It is clear that you do not have any appreciation for the situation in Canada and even less interest. But then Canadians are used to that attitude in many of our American cousins. So here are some facts for you Jim;

1) Not all Canadian members agreed with Ray.

2) Not all Canadian members agree with me.

3) Not all Canadian members agree with you.

4) All Canadian members have been made aware of how tenuous is our right to free speech on this message board.

5) Ray and Roy were the only source of information regarding the N.C.P. that did not include the persons who were determined to force it down our throats.

6) By removing Ray Wand access even as a guest and removing his previous posts you have removed the only source of information, right or wrong, that was regularly available to Canadian members. ( this statement is made as YOU brought up the subject)

Now, we all know that you have never let the facts stand in the way of a good barb so let 'er rip James. You will only add to the confusion of as to which sphincter we are listening .

[Joe Farsetta]

Why was Ray the sole voice regarding information on the NCP, or for that matter OAHI? Surely there are others.

Why cant or shouldnt someone else pick up the mantle?

[James H. Bushart]

Thanks for not disappointing me with your predictable response, George. As your friend has pointed out to you, he is presently available to be your sole voice for Canada at this web site. All is not lost...until he has been banned from there, as well.

[George A. H. Luck]

"Thanks for not disappointing me with your predictable response, George."

I certainly wouldn't want to disappoint you Jim. I might get booted too.

[Ray Wand]

James I think you will be gone from Inspection News as Harvey Hemplestern long before I go. There are other boards to expose how the ESOP and Nick have tightened the reign on the much touted free speech.

Btw is Hemplestern Germanic?

[Joe Farsetta]

There is a difference between freedom of speech and libel.

That is all I will say on the matter.

Ray, I strongly recommend you refrain from posting further on this message board. I am not saying this from any position of authority, or in a threatening manner. A word to the wise is generally sufficient.

I will take Nick's advice, and refrain from responding further. Good bye and best of luck.

[bjones5]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

There is a difference between freedom of speech and libel.

That is all I will say on the matter.

Ray, I strongly recommend you refrain from posting further on this message board. I am not saying this from any position of authority, or in a threatening manner. A word to the wise is generally sufficient.

I will take Nick's advice, and refrain from responding further. Good bye and best of luck.

Good advice, but sadly, will be ignored. Ray has an agenda and will refuse to back off. He has failed to understand that you cant force things to change by constant rhetoric and frivolous tirades. State your point concisely and then leave it alone. Let people think instead of badgering them.

My thoughts only.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by bjones5

Good advice, but sadly, will be ignored. Ray has an agenda and will refuse to back off. He has failed to understand that you cant force things to change by constant rhetoric and frivolous tirades. State your point concisely and then leave it alone. Let people think instead of badgering them.

My thoughts only.

Excellent point. Thanks.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Why was Ray the sole voice regarding information on the NCP, or for that matter OAHI? Surely there are others.

Why cant or shouldnt someone else pick up the mantle?

Ray was far from the sole voice. Ray and Roy made things up, because they had no clue about actual facts. Calude Lawrenson and myself provided reams of information but much of it didn't fit their agends so it was shat upon.

Bill Mullen

[Joe Farsetta]

Bill,

I was speaking of the CON side, not the PRO side of OAHI and the NCP

[George A. H. Luck]

With all due respect Bill . . . . . . .

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Bill,

I was speaking of the CON side, not the PRO side of OAHI and the NCP

I guess I was as well. They spoke totally against it, never offering any positive input. I have no problem discussing matters with people who use actual facts, but those two made their 'facts' up as fast as they could type.

Bill Mullen

[George A. H. Luck]

Again, with all due respect Bill . . . . .