National Certification

[rwand1]

As always Bill has a propensity to take fiction and embellish it, propogate it into believable facts to those who hope for some miraculous outcome, because they themselves believe fiction is better than fact. If this is the best and brightest CAHPI/National has to offer fear not. No one has been willing to dispute fiction with factual documents when asked for proof positive, its made up on the fly.

I doubt even Mr. Thayabharan has seen all the documentation, but seems complacent with piece meal, incomplete and improper protocols via his parent association CAHPI-OAHI.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

As always Bill has a propensity to take fiction and embellish it, propogate it into believable facts to those who hope for some miraculous outcome, because they themselves believe fiction is better than fact. If this is the best and brightest CAHPI/National has to offer fear not. No one has been willing to dispute fiction with factual documents when asked for proof positive, its made up on the fly.

I doubt even Mr. Thayabharan has seen all the documentation, but seems complacent with piece meal, incomplete and improper protocols via his parent association CAHPI-OAHI.

I found this on another NACHI post and I must say it Fits Bill Mullen perfectly.
(In Texas we call this a Blivit "cram ten pounds of sh*t in a two pound sack" ).
Bill should have realized that the NACHI home inspectors are all a lot smarter then he is and can see through his trying to bamboozle us.
He should have come unto the NACHI site with out his
( I am better then you attitude ) He can get away with this on his Canuk list as they have seen how ( he is KING ) and if you do not walk the way he wants you to he removes you .
There are a lot of great Home Inspectors on the Canuk site and much good information was traded .
I understand it is not used as much as it was.
I also know many come over to the NACHI BB to find out the truth.
If Bill comes Back with his mightier then You attitude I will post some of his many wrong statements he has made.
Sorry There are lots and I can not post them all .

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/lets-not-forget-whistler-4935/

[Bill Mullen]

Keep it up, Roy. Your continued misguided and misinformed attacks on me just show people which of us has more credibility. I really have no idea what makes you think it is helpful to anyone to drag a person's name through the mud? It just pulls you down in people's opinion and strengthens my resolve.

You have no idea how hard I have worked to ensure everyone, including NCAHI members, are treated equally. Nick is well aware of it, and I am extremely disappointed that he has not made this known.

Besides, I didn't come here to get into a mudslinging session with you.

I just want to advise people that there will be a major announcement early next week about the National Certification that will be helpful and good for NACHI members and others. I and some others have worked hard to get this for you and we will announce it as soon as it is formally approved this weekend by the National Certification Authority.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Keep it up, Roy. Your continued misguided and misinformed attacks on me just show people which of us has more credibility. I really have no idea what makes you think it is helpful to anyone to drag a person's name through the mud? It just pulls you down in people's opinion and strengthens my resolve.

You have no idea how hard I have worked to ensure everyone, including NCAHI members, are treated equally. Nick is well aware of it, and I am extremely disappointed that he has not made this known.

Besides, I didn't come here to get into a mudslinging session with you.

I just want to advise people that there will be a major announcement early next week about the National Certification that will be helpful and good for NACHI members and others. I and some others have worked hard to get this for you and we will announce it as soon as it is formally approved this weekend by the National Certification Authority.

Bill Mullen

Thanks for your openion Bill it has been you who has none stopped who has called me a liar many times when asked to please show me where you just throw more of your smart words .
I have finally give up and am now going to show people what kind of a person you are a very mean vindictive person who when he does not get his own way takes his ball and goes home .
I do hope you can show next week that you can play fair and treat NACHI members with the respect they deserve.
You do not even have the courage to sign your name when you give me a red star because you did not like my true post about you.
You are just a jealous man who always insists on being on top.


Roy Cooke NACHI where the truth comes out

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Thanks for your openion Bill it has been you who has none stopped who has called me a liar many times when asked to please show me where you just throw more of your smart words . I only called you a liar when you lied. You, however, have called me other things that were no true.
I have finally give up and am now going to show people what kind of a person you are a very mean vindictive person who when he does not get his own way takes his ball and goes home .
Your hate and confusion prevents you from knowing what kind of a person I really am.
I do hope you can show next week that you can play fair and treat NACHI members with the respect they deserve.
I have the utmost respect for NACHI members.
You do not even have the courage to sign your name when you give me a red star because you did not like my true post about you. I have no idea what a red star is or how to give anyone a red star.
You are just a jealous man who always insists on being on top.

Roy Cooke NACHI where the truth comes out

We'll see who comes out of this with any credibility. I'm betting on me.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

We'll see who comes out of this with any credibility. I'm betting on me.

Bill Mullen

Bill you are like the ever ready battery you just keep going and going . I politley asked you for an apology for what you said about Raymond and this is your apology posted -12/04/2004 at 22;56;31
_______________________________________________
Roy:
You want an apology Okay ,here it is.

I apologize to the members for wasting their time explaining things to you.

I hate to call people liars,but darn it Roy that's the way it is, Raymond continues; to fabricate stuff to bolster his bull**** poison agenda.
You yourself have been living a lie about your appeal with OAHI.
You know George Webb and I both offered you a chance to get your RHI with little fuss or muss but you decided to bankrupt OAHI'. We have had two people who have verified that they heard you say that your appeal was your entertainment.'
I am glad you have decided to join forces with Realtor Nick who has accused us Canadians of being 'gay'and 'stupid' It's a good fit.
You and NACHI deserve each other.

I am also glad you have decided to not renew your membership in OAHI your absent will improve our quality. Please convince the other garbage to join you .
CAHPI and CAHPI-Ontario are moving forward and I have some announcements which will soon blow the walls of the joint.
It's too bad you decided to leave .

Bill Mullen "
__________________________________________________ __

This is just some of the Things Bill has said that are completely wrong.
He is trying to quote some one else with information that I never said
he is trying to tell that he was going to get me my RHI and he did not have the authority to do this and it never did happen .
I had to take it to appeal and this given under OATH showed I was Right and that some of the OAHI directors lied .
This is the person who feels he has the ability to lead the Canadian Home Inspectors .
Well I would just love the chance for him and I to go under oath and I can safely say I am clean ,
I know Bill could never do this as he is far from clean.
He has non stop made accusations about me and others for about three years.

If people want to they can see on this BB where Bill has made a lot of incorrect statements Example I received no compensation .
Well I posted a letter of Bills where he said he got $20,000:00.
Bill did you ever work for the Ontario lottery association ?

Roy Cooke

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Bill you are like the ever ready battery you just keep going and going . I politley asked you for an apology for what you said about Raymond and this is your apology posted -12/04/2004 at 22;56;31
_______________________________________________
Roy:
You want an apology Okay ,here it is.

I apologize to the members for wasting their time explaining things to you.

I hate to call people liars,but darn it Roy that's the way it is, Raymond continues; to fabricate stuff to bolster his bull**** poison agenda.
You yourself have been living a lie about your appeal with OAHI.
You know George Webb and I both offered you a chance to get your RHI with little fuss or muss but you decided to bankrupt OAHI'. We have had two people who have verified that they heard you say that your appeal was your entertainment.'
I am glad you have decided to join forces with Realtor Nick who has accused us Canadians of being 'gay'and 'stupid' It's a good fit.
You and NACHI deserve each other.

I am also glad you have decided to not renew your membership in OAHI your absent will improve our quality. Please convince the other garbage to join you .
CAHPI and CAHPI-Ontario are moving forward and I have some announcements which will soon blow the walls of the joint.
It's too bad you decided to leave .

Bill Mullen "
__________________________________________________ __

This is just some of the Things Bill has said that are completely wrong.
He is trying to quote some one else with information that I never said
he is trying to tell that he was going to get me my RHI and he did not have the authority to do this and it never did happen .
You are very ungrateful for my help at the time and I can understand because you have trouble understanding things. I did indeed have authority to help you and I had found a way that could have solved the issue but you refused.
I had to take it to appeal and this given under OATH showed I was Right and that some of the OAHI directors lied .
This is the person who feels he has the ability to lead the Canadian Home Inspectors .
Well, this is two years later and I have done just that.
Well I would just love the chance for him and I to go under oath and I can safely say I am clean ,
I know Bill could never do this as he is far from clean.
I'm not perfect, but I stand behind every word I have said.
He has non stop made accusations about me and others for about three years. Is it only three years? Any accusations coming from me were in response to attacks from you.

If people want to they can see on this BB where Bill has made a lot of incorrect statements Example I received no compensation .
Well I posted a letter of Bills where he said he got $20,000:00.
Roy, I hate to say this again, but that is a lie. I have NEVER said that I 'got $ 20,000.00' because it would be false. Please show us all where I said that. In reality it has cost me likely in excess of $ 200,000 to work as a volunteer for Canadian Home Inspectors for ten years. As I have said before, I was given an honourarium totalling $ 12,000 in 2006 to serve as the National Certification Project Coordinator. That job involved thousands of hours of work. I have since donated back most of this to the National Certification Authority and by the end of the year I will likely have donated it all back in various ways.
Bill did you ever work for the Ontario lottery association ?
Typical comment for you, Roy.
BTW: Nick tells me you will not be speaking after me if I come to the convention?. Why are you telling these good people something different? One of you is wrong and so far Nick hasn't lied to me.

Roy Cooke

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Bill Mullen

Sorry I did not go back to see what the amount was I was going from memory If it is $12,000:00 .
( I guess that makes me a liar and you feel GOOD )
Great I feel that you where worth every penny you got I have never said you should not get paid It was you who said you got nothing zilch zero .
You seem to forget it was always Roy who posted any thing you wanted posted on the NACHI site and I did this many times .
It is you who loves to call people liars .
When asked for proof you skirt around as per usual .
NICK is a very smart man and I guess he can see what sort of a person you are .
It will be very interesting to see if you do show up to speak .
Bill Can you confirm when and where you told all the CAHPI members that they could attend the NACHI conference and that CAHPI and OAHI had an offer of a free both at the Conference .
None of the CAHPI members I have talked to have seen where you posted this.
BTW: Nick tells me you will not be speaking after me if I come to the convention?. Why are you telling these good people something different? One of you is wrong and so far Nick hasn't lied to me.
Bill most of us know how good your word is.
ARE YOU AR ARE YOU NOT COMMING TO SPEAK ??????? AT THE NACHI
CONFERENCE
Bills favorite song is First you say you will then you say you wont .
.

Roy Cooke

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Sorry I did not go back to see what the amount was I was going from memory If it is $12,000:00 .
( I guess that makes me a liar and you feel GOOD ) No, Roy. It doesn't make you a liar but if you are going to accuse someone of something you should get the facts straight.
Great I feel that you where worth every penny you got I have never said you should not get paid It was you who said you got nothing zilch zero . I never said that. I got paid nothing for the thousands of hours I worked on this and other projects, but I have NEVER denied receiving some money for that particular job.
You seem to forget it was always Roy who posted any thing you wanted posted on the NACHI site and I did this many times . You certainly have posted many things. However, they have only been posted if you felt you could damage my reputation wih them somehow.
It is you who loves to call people liars .
When asked for proof you skirt around as per usual . I'll give you proof if you want it, Roy, but it's all a matter of opblic record.
NICK is a very smart man and I guess he can see what sort of a person you are . He is smart and he recognizes the contribution I have given and can give.
It will be very interesting to see if you do show up to speak . If it's just going to be a mudslinging session there is no sense in it happening.
Bill Can you confirm when and where you told all the CAHPI members that they could attend the NACHI conference and that CAHPI and OAHI had an offer of a free both at the Conference .
You like to look things up. Maybe you can find it. I don't have time. Right now I'm putting on my Tuxedo to attend the CREA VIP reception in Ottawa.
None of the CAHPI members I have talked to have seen where you posted this.
BTW: Nick tells me you will not be speaking after me if I come to the convention?. Why are you telling these good people something different? One of you is wrong and so far Nick hasn't lied to me.
Bill most of us know how good your word is. That's good to hear. They won't fall for your version then.
ARE YOU AR ARE YOU NOT COMMING TO SPEAK ??????? AT THE NACHI
CONFERENCE Nick and I are still negotiating. He has offered to pay for a hotel room and I'm holding out for one with running water. If we can come to terms I'll be there.
Bills favorite song is First you say you will then you say you wont . We didn't need that, Roy.
.

Roy Cooke

Bill Mullen
Keynote Speaker Extrordinaire

[Nalliah Thayabharan]

Gentlemen !
Nobody is perfect. People make mistakes ! If somebody is looking for a perfect house or a perfect companion... even perfect forum member... There is no such thing. They must be dreaming....
Personal attacks, mud slings won't do anything for the betterment of our trade. With team work, positive attitude and forward thinking we can achieve a lot.
We are mature people ! We know that everybody's opinion is different.
We are better off spending our energy positively!

Nalliah Thayabharan
Markham ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Bill Mullen
Keynote Speaker Extrordinaire

Gee I a sorry to see you so desperate to say (You seem to forget it was always Roy who posted any thing you wanted posted on the NACHI site and I did this many times . You certainly have posted many things. However, they have only been posted if you felt you could damage my reputation wih them somehow.)
I made the posts you asked me to got told by some others I should not try and help you .
I said nothing and let you gather the information you needed .
You now try to say I did it for me .
Bill I do not need to help me I do very well thank you .
I am concerned with all Canadian Home inspectors that you are trying to abuse .
So strange you can pick on me and others but when I or some says any thing about you it is wrong .
Bill if you can not stand the heat then you might be better to stay out of the Kitchen.
You are very jealous of NACHI and its members .
A very poor way to go through life .

Roy Cooke

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Nalliah Thayabharan

Gentlemen !
Nobody is perfect. People make mistakes ! If somebody is looking for a perfect house or a perfect companion... even perfect forum member... There is no such thing. They must be dreaming....
Personal attacks, mud slings won't do anything for the betterment of our trade. With team work, positive attitude and forward thinking we can achieve a lot.
We are mature people ! We know that everybody's opinion is different.
We are better off spending our energy positively!

Nalliah Thayabharan
Markham ON

I agree completely .
But this is my home association and when an invited guest comes into my home the proper thing to do is treat the members of that home with dignity and respect.
I will give any one the benefit of making an error but when my friends and my association is continually attacked look out.
NACHI welcomes all and treats all great .
If people can not behave in our home they should leave.
I do hope you continue to visit and see how great NACHI and its members are .

Roy Cooke

[Nalliah Thayabharan]

Originally Posted by rwand1

I doubt even Mr. Thayabharan has seen all the documentation, but seems complacent with piece meal, incomplete and improper protocols

You are right Mr Wand. I did not see the documents .
I did apply for the national certification because I wanted to participate in a national strategy guiding the future of the Canadian Home Inspection profession.
I believe national certification authority works in the best interests of the home inspection profession throughout the country, accommodating the interests of all associations and members of the profession throughout the country.
I also think national certification authority is a mechanism to allow each of the existing inspector associations/groups to work together toward a series of long-term common goals primarily focused on improving common national standards for inspector certification, education and training and standards of inspection performance.
I strongly believe that we all will benefit from a strong national program and certification system - including the potential for increased market share and expanded for national certificate holders, improved market identity of, and credibility for, national certificate holders.
Many individuals within all current associations share a commitment to improving their profession. The challenge to the profession is to implement a strategy which focuses the energies of all members of the profession towards achieving common goals.
The Canadian Home Inspection profession needs to earn a position of respect and trust through the provision of excellence in inspection for their clients. The national certification will coordinate efforts across the country in support of that vision.
I hope national certification will elevate the status of the profession in the minds of the consumer, home inspectors, government, and key stakeholders across Canada.

Nalliah Thayabharan
Expert Building Inspections Ltd
Markham ON

[rwand1]

Nalliah

If you haven't seen all the documentation then how can you be assured that the National is going to do or promise everything you have been led to believe?

Currently there is no mutual meeting of minds between the associations, this is very evident by the actions and statements being made by people in authority within CAHPI-OAHI who have no business making such statements. The Olive branch has been extended several times and contrary to existing by-laws within CAHPI-OAHI the Olive branch has been snapped over the knee of CAHPI-OAHI. CAHPI has repeatedly shown that it is not going to co-operate by sending Mr. Mullen here to try and explain a program that is discretionary in its pricing, his attitude of anyone he feels beneath him, and the repeated statements suggesting only NCHolders will be the one and ony. This is has misled to repeated misinformation, surely a body that wants to be seen in the light it so desires would send someone in authority to address the issues.

Nalliah you have apparently signed onto a program without full knowledge of the facts. There is no proof whatsoever that being Certified is going to increase your number of inspections or respect from the realestate community. As you are a member of OAHI which if run properly far outweighs National Cert. This tells me you have abandoned OAHI in favour of a program you really know nothing about.

For the record we are all in favour of improving the profession but to improve it it must be open and jointly done without the clear descrpecencies we see. Anyone who has taken the time to investigate further and speak to CMHC will find out that Mr. Mullen has exaggerated greatly what its all about. I have found CMHC is telling a different story.

The National is not going to elevate the profession and that will not become abundently clear until sufficient numbers of inspectors from the outside recognized body of CAHPI. With the current pricing scheme, no accountability and friends appointing friends, and decisions having been made without full knowledge of members there is a big question mark hanging over the program. The inability of CAHPI to effectively market the program, provide proper answers, or to send the people in position of power , i.e. the President, no one can be assured of anything stated by Mr. Mullen as he has quite a history of prevericating.

If you have signed up thats fine, but please don't suggest to us all that the National is some program that is going to revolutionize, or increase your biz or your image because thus far all I am hearing are egos and hot air, in an effort to hoodwink many.

Cheers,

[rwand1]

Seeing as Mr. Mullen is not or does not hold any longer a official capacity with CAHPI/National why isn't Mr. Guihan being invited to deliver the message at the conference.

Mr. Mullen stated sometime ago Mr. Guihan was not fully aware or knowledgable about the National, yet I have read much in articles that seem to indicate otherwise. Surely any association worth its weight would send messenger who can sell the goods without the need for ego, and embellishment and can talk the talk and walk the walk?