National Certification Authority NCA Elections Reminder

[dcook1]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

The issue of "titles" is just another way to indicate certain performance goals. It's simply about open minds and advertising opportunities. It may enhance your image to the market. It can also indicate to others that what you have earned as well as to prove that you are not just another home inspector. But - it is also not a guarantee of 100% performance.

Like the CMI - the National Certificate Holder too is not mandatory - its all about choices.

Claude,
At this time I currently have still problems trying to tell realtors, the general public and anyone else the validity of having some tlc's (three letter acronym) behind my name. All they call about, and no one here can argue this is .... What is your charge? I never reply with my cost as the first item. I try to educate the buyer. However I do feel that NACHI, OAHI, NCP or whoever should be getting the message out about the usefullnes of any education. Today I submitted my info for RHI. I currently use CHI (and am entitled to do so, although I have received a lot of flack from OAHI and members). In reality most people I talk to (and I continually poll everyone) have virtually no idea what these acronyms mean.
So now (and I actually am stealing this idea, because it came from a BOE of OAHI and he makes way more sense than I do) really..... what is the value of having NCH behind my name?
Signed,,,,,,, still undecided about NCP program

[rwand1]

David,

Would you happen to know who the BOE Chair is in OAHI? Or do you happen to know where the quarterly reports are that no one has seen? When you find out can you let the rest of us know please?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Roy- "we" have not bailed on the CMI or the National Certificate. Both seem to be doing quite well. There are approximately 200 inspectors qued up for their NCP - TIPR. Thanks Claude as per usuall no figures of how many NCP so It looks like the figures I received are correct150.
Same thing the NCA is Broke and in dire strates...
The issue of "titles" is just another way to indicate certain performance goals. .. Exactly those with very little experience who are willing to pay big money to take the test and continue paying to maintain their NC are welcome.

It's simply about open minds and advertising opportunities. It may enhance your image to the market.
.. Have No idea about if the NC may or may not ( The names have not been made public yet ) Those who are CMIs have shown how well it works as all seem to be extremly satisfied with their decesion and we make more money.
It can also indicate to others that what you have earned as well as to prove that you are not just another home inspector. But - it is also not a guarantee of 100% performance.

Like the CMI - the National Certificate Holder too is not mandatory - its all about choices..Experience is required to get a CMI .Not so with the NCA. No disrespect intended - but that is what experience is - another level of education coupled with the practical experience.

The point regarding "who they are" - is in the process of being addressed.
.. Thanks for telling us but we have heard this same song for ever
( Where's the meat ) Facts are never realesed questions are evaded.

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The High cost to get the NCA Certificate and how it seems to be going up again next year, And the continuing cost of maintaining the NCA certificate sounds like exactly what OAHI has tried for years.
Past experience with OAHI shows how their membership is stagnate and has not increased over many years.
INTERNACHI ( NACHI) is growing non stop.
The education is free or very inexpensive.
The rewards are huge and continue to grow at an astounding rate.
Membership and education cost has not increased over the years.

....Cookie

[Rob A. Parker]

David I was using CHI behind may name with no mention of being a OAHI member on any of my ad's and OAHI held up my upgrade to RHI for over 6 months because they claimed OAHI owned the rights to use CHI. All it takes to holed up any upgrade is for someone to file a complaint about you. It took OAHI over 2 months to tell me why my upgrade had been with held after I was notified there was a problem and a further 6 months to process my upgrade once I agreed not to use CHI,so sit back and don't hold your breath waiting for a quick reply on your upgrade.

[rwand1]

The CHI issue to my knowledge is no longer an issue with OAHI after the little diddy they tried with me. When I challenged them, like so many issues, they had to withdraw the issue, but only after they had complained about me to ASTTBC!

They really don't know what the hell they are doing, but it is quite evident they run things based on bias, animosities and "we will get you for outsmarting us kinda attitude!"

Now the current DPPC Chair Wayne Christopher has breached his confidentiality agreement by making statements on the CANUCK list he had no business making! When I made statements on the CANUCK list very much like Waynes OAHI saw fit to ask for my resignation on the DPPC! I truly hope the current regime asks for Waynes resignation as DPPC Chair along with the committee members for going along with it and condoning it.

What goes around come around eh?

Kiss my Grits!

[rwand1]

Rudolf,

I am not at liberty to devulge all the details. However to soothe your curiosity/criticism as to why Raymond has never been legally challenged, be advised it was I who spearheaded consultation with outside legal counsel to facilitate his removal. Guess what....we didn't have a pot to piss in nor the window to throw it out of then and now though he is slowly giving us ammunition there still isn't much we can do yet.

So had we not gotten legal advise from an expert counsel on legislated acts and bylaws we would have lost our shirts, there would have been nothing to work for today and you would be sitting in your arm chair telling the inspection world...."See I told you so!

Wayne Christopher
RHI, #NCA00033
Sarnia
CHRISTOPHER HOME INSPECTION
We Take The Guesswork Out Of Buying Your Home
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of a cheap price is forgotten.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Yes they tried it once and spent about $35,000;00 ( I was told )
with my appeal and OAHI was the ones who in all cases where incorrect.
Some Directors still say it is all Roy Cooke's fault for the difficulties that OAHI is in at this time . All I can say is they must have a bunch of slow learners trying to run OAHI.
All rules should be followed all the time .
I expect OAHI will tumble down like a deck of cards if they do not improve.

I told them I am better as a friend ,But they just lack the ability to treat all Home Inspectors properly.

So Glad we have NACHI and the NACHI BB for all to get the truth.
...Cookie

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Roy:

Here's all the information you'll ever need.........Enjoy. I know it makes me very happy.

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/odpub/pdf/62839.pdf

Bill Mullen RHI
#NCA00001

Bill many a true word spoken in jest well you are correct this does make me very happy .
I think CMHC could be wrong with this information sheet .

(A final note :

CMHC does not recommend or
endorse any individual home inspector
or association. CMHC supports
national uniform standards of
competency for home inspectors.

For more information on the
inspection industry’s National
Certification Program, please refer to
the National Certification Authority’s

website http://www.nca-anc.com/ )

The Competition Bureau had a meeting Dec 13th on this subject
http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/epic/site/cb-bc.nsf/en/02542e.html

CMHC looks to me to be like you sort of not telling it properly.
Should be interesting to see how they handle this .

...Cookie

[George A. H. Luck]

Roy, if the rumours about the N.C.A.'s financial troubles are true, and with O.A.H.I. circling the drain, not to mention the very real possibility of several provinces establishing licensing programmes it would appear that the national is a dead duck. I can only imagine that some if not all of the 200 currently breaking down the doors to get in on this wonderful opportunity are wondering if they should spend their money on a designation that will become even more meaningless ( hard to imagine!) than it currently is!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by gluck

Roy, if the rumours about the N.C.A.'s financial troubles are true, and with O.A.H.I. circling the drain, not to mention the very real possibility of several provinces establishing licensing programmes it would appear that the national is a dead duck. I can only imagine that some if not all of the 200 currently breaking down the doors to get in on this wonderful opportunity are wondering if they should spend their money on a designation that will become even more meaningless ( hard to imagine!) than it currently is!

George like all other posts made by Claude and Bill to be taken with a grain of salt.
They are both masters of saying much and giving no facts .
Example read Claude's post below .are approximately 200
( How many is aprox???) more the four I guess.

I do agree those I have talked to are are having second thoughts about the NCA and if it will ever be worth the cost.

...Cookie
"Originally Posted by clawrenson
Roy- "we" have not bailed on the CMI or the National Certificate. Both seem to be doing quite well. There are approximately 200 inspectors qued up for their NCP - TIPR. "

[Claude Lawrenson]

Thanks for the feedback - no further comment required.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Thanks for the feedback - no further comment required.

Claude that has been the way you have been from the get go .
I would love to see true facts not double talking . I have asked for information and it does not come .
It is up to you to tell it like it is or continue to evade .
CAHPI has not been getting the information out and many have asked for it .
CAHPI had there own Bulletin Board and closed it down You have open free use of the NACHI bb and it is read by many Canadian Home Inspectors .

.... Cookie

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

This are what the short forms stand for.

NCA - The National Certification Authority administers the NCP across Canada

It is comprised and under the supervision of members of CAHPI’s 7 regional
bodies. The NCA is the authority that defines NCP education requirements,
Standards of Practice, and Code of Ethics.

NCC

– National Certification Council is the body that approves applicants for
status as an Associate or a National Certificate Holder under the National
Certification Program.

NCH

- A National Certification Holder is a practicing inspector who has been a
granted a certificate indicating that he/she has met the performance
requirements and standards as set out in the NCP.

NCP

- The National Certification Program was designed to establish and
maintain a national standard for educations, certification and professional

practice for home inspectors across Canada.

... Cookie

[Claude Lawrenson]

I suspect that budgets are tight, and advertising is sometimes received and perceived in different lights. As we have all experienced here some civil comments, but also not barring a few uncivil ones; it simply and far too often eventully leads to another "pissing" match. It's not good for any of us to join in that type of fiasco. It's non-productive.

On the other side even when information is posted - it appears that some perceive of that information as an attempt at selling the program. So it seems to be a NO-win situation. Your damned when you do - and damned when you don't.

I have offered to respond privately, where it does tend to avoid the unnecessary conflict, or promotion of the "program".

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

I suspect that budgets are tight, and advertising is sometimes received and perceived in different lights. As we have all experienced here some civil comments, but also not barring a few uncivil ones; it simply and far too often eventully leads to another "pissing" match. It's not good for any of us to join in that type of fiasco. It's non-productive.

On the other side even when information is posted - it appears that some perceive of that information as an attempt at selling the program. So it seems to be a NO-win situation. Your damned when you do - and damned when you don't.

I have offered to respond privately, where it does tend to avoid the unnecessary conflict, or promotion of the "program".

Please Claude you refer to information posted could you please direct me to this .
I seem to to see information posted by others but just at this time can not remember where this information is you are talking about .
Thanks . ...Cookie