National Occupational Standards

[W Paul Blakey]

As promised, here is the draft version of the National Occupational Standards, with the letter I received, for your perusal and elucidation ...

(I'm not sure how to add an attachment to this message, so if it doesn't work, be patient with me...)Professional Home and Property Inspector NOS Survey March 2008 Final.pdf

Dear fellow Canadian Professional Home Inspectors:

In late 2000, as part of the CHIBO National Initiative, about a dozen well respected and experienced inspectors from across Canada met in Toronto for a full week of meetings to determine exactly what Home Inspectors do when they perform a Home Inspection. What they were trying to establish could be called our ‘Job Description’. The results of this marathon meeting became known as the National Occupational Standards for Home and Property Inspectors. (NOS) These standards were studied and eventually ratified and adopted by CHIBO and the CAHPI Steering Committee in 2001.

Besides being a job description, the NOS also provided a blueprint for future decisions that would be made by almost all of the committees and councils that have been created as part of the National Certification Program. The NOS are the foundation upon which the entire program is built.

Since rules, regulations, techniques and industry standards are subject to change, it was decided that the NOS would be reviewed about every five years to ensure they mirrored actual inspection functions and criteria. In February of this year, a select group of volunteers from across the country met to review the current NOS and suggest changes and improvements. The results of their efforts are reflected in the attached NOS Task Validation Survey, which we are attempting to get into the hands of as many Canadian practitioners as possible.

We ask that you complete it and fax, e-mail, or mail it to the consultants before May 15, 2008. Their contact information is on the survey.

This is an opportunity for all Canadian Professional Home Inspectors, regardless of association or lack thereof, to have some input into our futures. Once the results of the survey are compiled, the new, updated NOS will be circulated. Thanks in advance for your help.

Bill Mullen, RHI
National Certificate Holder #NCA00001
Chair - NOS Review Committee

[rcooke]

Originally Posted by wblakey

As promised, here is the draft version of the National Occupational Standards, with the letter I received, for your perusal and elucidation ...

(I'm not sure how to add an attachment to this message, so if it doesn't work, be patient with me...)Attachment 19675

Dear fellow Canadian Professional Home Inspectors:

In late 2000, as part of the CHIBO National Initiative, about a dozen well respected and experienced inspectors from across Canada met in Toronto for a full week of meetings to determine exactly what Home Inspectors do when they perform a Home Inspection. What they were trying to establish could be called our ‘Job Description’. The results of this marathon meeting became known as the National Occupational Standards for Home and Property Inspectors. (NOS) These standards were studied and eventually ratified and adopted by CHIBO and the CAHPI Steering Committee in 2001.

Besides being a job description, the NOS also provided a blueprint for future decisions that would be made by almost all of the committees and councils that have been created as part of the National Certification Program. The NOS are the foundation upon which the entire program is built.

Since rules, regulations, techniques and industry standards are subject to change, it was decided that the NOS would be reviewed about every five years to ensure they mirrored actual inspection functions and criteria. In February of this year, a select group of volunteers from across the country met to review the current NOS and suggest changes and improvements. The results of their efforts are reflected in the attached NOS Task Validation Survey, which we are attempting to get into the hands of as many Canadian practitioners as possible.

We ask that you complete it and fax, e-mail, or mail it to the consultants before May 15, 2008. Their contact information is on the survey.

This is an opportunity for all Canadian Professional Home Inspectors, regardless of association or lack thereof, to have some input into our futures. Once the results of the survey are compiled, the new, updated NOS will be circulated. Thanks in advance for your help.

Bill Mullen, RHI
National Certificate Holder #NCA00001
Chair - NOS Review Committee

Thanks Paul and Bill for the Post.
I think much time has gone into this unfortunatly ,I do not think it has come out as good as many had hoped .
There is only one answer to all questions and not enough room for comments.
.
I filled in the survey and then Just gave up as I see little advantage in this one .
Sorry thats my thoughts others might agree.
The answer I got for every question was 5.

...Cookie

[bmullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Thanks Paul and Bill for the Post.
I think much time has gone into this unfortunatly ,I do not think it has come out as good as many had hoped .
There is only one answer to all questions and not enough room for comments.
.
I filled in the survey and then Just gave up as I see little advantage in this one .
Sorry thats my thoughts others might agree.
The answer I got for every question was 5.

...Cookie

Roy:

The point of a survey is to get opinions. If what you say above is your opinion on the survey and its contents, send it in.

Nobody is looking for everyone to 'rubber-stamp' anything, so if you feel changes are needed, the only way to make it happen is to voice your opinion. Doing it on this forum won't go anywhere. It must be done directly to the professional consultants.

Bill Mullen

[rcooke]

Originally Posted by bmullen

Roy:

The point of a survey is to get opinions. If what you say above is your opinion on the survey and its contents, send it in.

Nobody is looking for everyone to 'rubber-stamp' anything, so if you feel changes are needed, the only way to make it happen is to voice your opinion. Doing it on this forum won't go anywhere. It must be done directly to the professional consultants.

Bill Mullen

Will Do ...Cookie

[W Paul Blakey]

I would like to reinforce what Bill said. This document is not set in stone, it is malleable depending on what sort of input is received.

This is an opportunity for you to take part in the process.

Read the document carefully. Grade each section to reflect the conditions in the area you service. For example, when it comes to air conditioning, I rated that lower, since in my part of the country I rarely see an air conditioner. Should a home inspector know how they work? Absolutely, but to a lesser degree, is what I put on the form.

If you want to comment on the definition, then you can do this too. And I am sure that if you wanted to add a covering letter that would be welcome too.

This is an inclusive process. Take advantage of it. You have until the middle of May.

[Claude Lawrenson]

Perhaps this may help explain why the NOS and the feedback is deemed important. We all have a stake in assuring continuity and identification of the key job skills required.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/hip/hrp/co...s/occstd.shtml

As Paul Blakey indicates it is meant to be inclusive, so the opportunity is now resting with those that do care about the profession and the future.

[bmullen]

Thanks, Claude:

I was looking for that document, and you had it all the time. Great work as usual !!!

That clearly tells us why we go through this process and how.

Bill Mullen

[bmullen]

The consultants have told me that several NACHI members have already sent in their surveys. That's terrific, and thanks. It's a chance for every inspector to have some impact on our future.

One problem we have with this project is that we want to contact as many inspectors as possible, but there is no easy way to contact the thousands of people who are not members of any organization.

Any ideas ???

Bill Mullen

[Raymond E. Wand]

Happy Easter Bill,

Can CMHC put it up on their site?
What about OAHI on the public side?
What about CAHPI/National site?
I will put it on Cdn. Federation of Independent Home Inspectors site.
I can post it on Inspection News and Inspectors Journals?
I have posted it on the OAHI CAFE.

Cheers,

[rcooke]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Will Do ...Cookie

I sent mine in I also sent a copy to vern ( vernmitch@shaw.ca ) .
I think the more who can add ideas could be a help .
I see nothing wrong in Having this sent to The INACHI western member as others are using the INACHI site to ask for information .

...Cookie

[bmullen]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Happy Easter Bill,

Can CMHC put it up on their site?
What about OAHI on the public side?
What about CAHPI/National site?
I will put it on Cdn. Federation of Independent Home Inspectors site.
I can post it on Inspection News and Inspectors Journals?
I have posted it on the OAHI CAFE.

Cheers,

Happy Easter back atcha. I'm pretty well buzzed on a chocolate high.....the bunny was good to me.

I'm not sure if CMHC will post it or not, but it's worth asking.

The CAHPI provincial associations have been asked to post it. Whether or not OAHI will do so is, as you know, anybody's guess.

It'll be on the CAHPI & NCA sites this week.

Those other sites you mention are good ideas.

Thanks a bunch.

Bill Mullen

[bmullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

I sent mine in I also sent a copy to vern ( vernmitch@shaw.ca ) .
I think the more who can add ideas could be a help .
I see nothing wrong in Having this sent to The INACHI western member as others are using the INACHI site to ask for information .

...Cookie

Absolutely, Roy.

If Vern or anyone can use the information, that's terrific, as long as it's all kept in perspective.

When all the surveys are in and the results are tabulated, we might all be able to use the information in a few different ways. The final information will be available to all.

Bill Mullen

[Raymond E. Wand]

Placed on

Inspection News
Inspectors Journal
Cdn. Fed. Ind. Home Inspectors board

Cheers,

[George A. H. Luck]

How do we get to that C.F.I.H.I. board Ray?

[Raymond E. Wand]

Happy Easter George,

http://www.gogetforum.com/?mforum=provincialcfihi
http://www.gogetforum.com/provincialcfihi-about17.html