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Old 3/23/08, 1:15 PM
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What about the various colleges and other teaching establishments for home inspectors? They should definitely have a copy, as it will certainly impact what they do.
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What about the various colleges and other teaching establishments for home inspectors? They should definitely have a copy, as it will certainly impact what they do.
Those who have expressed previous interest in the National Certification have been sent copies for information purposes only. The NCA office has a bulk e-mail system that I'm sure has gone to them.They will all of course receive the final version of the Revised NS when it is ready several months from now.

I guess the bottom line is.............the more widespread this becomes, the more encompassing and valid it should be.

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Old 3/23/08, 7:34 PM
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I agree, that it is important to disseminate the NOS for review, however consider the reality of these points -

1. It is likely that the vast majority will not respond - so let's prove that theory wrong!

2. The vast majority of people in colleges and other home inspection training courses taking the courses are not active participants in the profession - so I am uncertain to suggest what impact that may have on skewing the statistics.

3. I agree that a large majority teaching the courses "should" be aware of the NOS, but many are not or seem to care not! Those that do care are often the ones leading the change, not waiting for the change!

But all in all - good suggestions to get the word out. Beyond that it's a number game.



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Old 3/24/08, 8:51 PM
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Claude

Re the intro on the NOS survey I read this sentence which I believe is not entirely correct. I know many inspectors who provide this type of service as I have on occasion. Where did they get that theory from?

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It must be noted that Professional Home and Property Inspectors do not provide building or other code compliance services.
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Old 3/24/08, 9:01 PM
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Claude

Re the intro on the NOS survey I read this sentence which I believe is not entirely correct. I know many inspectors who provide this type of service as I have on occasion. Where did they get that theory from?
Raymond:

The NOS addresses the standard for the prototypical inspector. We do not NORMALLY provide Code Compliance services. However, some individuals might do so, just as some might offer Thermal Imaging, etc.

Now, lest I sound like I'm not agreeing with you, I don't want to influence how you respond to the survey. Anything and everything in those pages is up for review and discussion, so please send in your comments. That's what the consultative process is all about.

BTW: Thanks again for spreading the word.

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Old 3/24/08, 9:19 PM
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I am not sure, but I would reference such a comment as being additional work beyond the SOP. Perhaps another case in point - what about "mold", "thermal imaging", environmental, or energy audit, etc?

Certainly I see those as additional services or as noted in paragraph two "in addition many Professional Home and Property Inspectors conduct other activities....." - for those (hopefully) properly trained and "certified" to conduct these services.

Some may even debate the issue if push comes to shove regarding the legality or strength of those empowered to "interpret" building code - such as regulated under Bill 124 in Ontario. Are we talking RCA qualifications or just the building code according to the home inspector?

Municipalities currently have several options in delivering building enforcement services including: in-house service delivery with internal or contract staff and joint service delivery with another municipality. Municipalities have another option through the use of municipally appointed private inspection bodies known as registered code agencies (RCAs).



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Old 3/24/08, 9:21 PM
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BTW: Would posting it (the NOS survey) on a home inspection website be sanctioned or accepted/kosher?



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Actually it was just an observation, but I thought that we have to have a working knowledge of the code as home inspectors, thus my original query, whereas we don't have to have knowledge of Infrared vis-a-vis building code.

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BTW: Would posting it (the NOS survey) on a home inspection website be sanctioned or accepted/kosher?
I know no other way to get to most Canadian home Inspectors then the NACHI site.
It seems to be the best place for Information for all.
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BTW: Would posting it (the NOS survey) on a home inspection website be sanctioned or accepted/kosher?
As Chair of the NOS Review Committee, I say go for it.

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Old 3/25/08, 1:20 AM
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I've got it in pdf formate and can't add info to the survey. Anyone know how to change this file so I can fill in the survey? Would rather do it this way then send it by fax.
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Old 3/25/08, 8:42 AM
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If you have Adobe Acrobat ver. 8 you can fill in the form using the typewriter button. Then save the survey and attach to your email.
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Old 3/25/08, 8:45 AM
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I've got it in pdf formate and can't add info to the survey. Anyone know how to change this file so I can fill in the survey? Would rather do it this way then send it by fax.
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I also have it in Word but th NACHI Forum won't let me upload it because it's too large. Any ideas?

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Bill if you have a website and you can upload/download from your server place it on your server and then provide a link here. Or break the survey up into several pages and upload the individual pages as links. I think this board allows upto 5-6 links per post.
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Old 3/25/08, 9:09 AM
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Bill if you have a website and you can upload/download from your server place it on your server and then provide a link here. Or break the survey up into several pages and upload the individual pages as links. I think this board allows upto 5-6 links per post.
I can't get on my website. Can I e-mail it to you to post on yours?

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