NCA fee announcement

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/documents/NCA_Fee_Announcement.pdf

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

http://www.nachi.org/documents/NCA_Fee_Announcement.pdf

Which begs the question, is NACHI group A or B ?? Has NACHI met the equivalency portion of Group B??

Group A: Members of no organizations or members of organizations that
have not agreed to and met equivalency comparisons with the NCA.


Group B: Members of organizations that have agreed to and met equivalency
comparisons with the NCA. Signed agreements between the NCA and each
organization must be in place for its members to qualify for this fee level.

(Note: These organizations do not need to be CAHPI associations)

[rwand1]

http://www.nca-anc.com/index.php?opt...d=26&Itemid=41

Is this Home Inspection Course on the approved Accredited Training Providers list? I notice its only a one week course. Hmmm

I noticed the inspector is also a National Cert. holder and TIPR examiner.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Which begs the question, is NACHI group A or B ?? Has NACHI met the equivalency portion of Group B??


Group A: Members of no organizations or members of organizations that
have not agreed to and met equivalency comparisons with the NCA.


Group B: Members of organizations that have agreed to and met equivalency
comparisons with the NCA. Signed agreements between the NCA and each
organization must be in place for its members to qualify for this fee level.

(Note: These organizations do not need to be CAHPI associations)

I do not think so . I think they mean CAHPI only .
From what I understand no matter what Bill Mullen keeps saying the National Certification is not doing well at all and they are scrambling to try and get more to sign up .
They are considerable behind what they said they would be at this time .
If it was going well at all they would be advertising it and all those who are NCA approved.
They would be getting as much millage and getting all enthused to join in .
Well stand by there is more info comming and it is not any better then what they have posted all along .
Cookie

[rwand1]

Jason

Group A is Nachi.

[rwand1]

I can't even find Accredited Training Providers. I would have thought the providers would be listed so anyone wishing to take an accredited course would be able to find one.

[George A. H. Luck]

Seems kinda thin, don't it?

[Douglas Cossar]

Just keep chiping away............. they'll get the picture sooner or later

Cheers

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Jason

Group A is Nachi.

So what does NACHI have to do to meet Group B status? and, is it being done?

[rwand1]

Jason

Nachi will have to submit its course criteria.

I did a Google search on Home Inspection Schools in Canada and couldn't find any that were accredited, but know that Seneca is. I am sure there are a few others.

What I found ironic is that a TIPR examiner, RHI and National Cert. holder offering one week course, which is most certainly not accredited.

Besides anyone in Ontario would be well advised to stay away from OAHI who is administering the National. For reasons so often stated.

[rwand1]

I received this message from El Presidente Mr. Lloyd. Secretary CAHPI/President OAHI.

Another cryptic message no doubt from OAHI.

Dear Members

The CEU's required for the NCA renewals are for CEU's you obtained in the year 2006 only.

Tom Lloyd, RHI
President, OAHI/CAHPI-Ontario
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ONTARIO ASSOCIATION OF HOME INSPECTORS
Established by the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors Act, 1994
Box 38108, Castlewood R.P.O., Toronto ON M5N 3A8
Telephone: (416) 256-0960 or 1-888-RHI-OAHI (744-6244)
Email: oahi@oahi.com Fax: (905) 771-1079
Web site: www.oahi.com

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Jason

Nachi will have to submit its course criteria.
That's correct, and I am working with Nick on that.

I did a Google search on Home Inspection Schools in Canada and couldn't find any that were accredited, but know that Seneca is. I am sure there are a few others.

Don't be too sure. Seneca is NOT yet accredited.

What I found ironic is that a TIPR examiner, RHI and National Cert. holder offering one week course, which is most certainly not accredited.

Any course can be accredited, but different courses carry varying weights depending on their content. Some courses might provide a student with 25% of his/her requirements while another might provide all of them.

Besides anyone in Ontario would be well advised to stay away from OAHI who is administering the National. For reasons so often stated.

Teaching institutions submit their course material so it can be compared to the National Occupational Standards. (NOS). If they meet them, they can be offered accreditation. However, any school wanting to be accredited must sign an accreditation agreement with the NCA. (Basically promising to retain the level of material, rather than changing it after getting accredited) Many schools now meet the criteria but the necessary paperwork is still pending.

BTW: Nobody has pointed out that I have delivered on my promise at the convention to try to reduce fees for non-CAHPI members. I'm not ashamed to take full credit along with Claude for making it happen. It was not easy, because even CMHC has agreed that the old fee schedule was justified, so the NCA had no incentive other than our constant pressure. (Claude and me). If Nick, Claude and I can pull things together, there is even a chance that NACHI members will pay the same as CAHPI members in the future, but it will require a lot of cooperation.

Bill Mullen
#NCA00001

[rwand1]

Hi Bill,

Strange about Seneca, because prior to the National being fully implemented/announced the Seneca course was already touting that it met the National Certification criteria. Which at the time seemed rather interesting considering that the course is taught by Carson Dunlop. I remember distinctly raising this question well before the National was implemented.

Thanks for the price reduction efforts. Interesting that the former pricing formula was agreed to by CMHC, I didn't think they should be able to influence anything considering they wish to be seen at arms length.

Cheers,

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Hi Bill,

Strange about Seneca, because prior to the National being fully implemented/announced the Seneca course was already touting that it met the National Certification criteria. Which at the time seemed rather interesting considering that the course is taught by Carson Dunlop. I remember distinctly raising this question well before the National was implemented.

Thanks for the price reduction efforts. Interesting that the former pricing formula was agreed to by CMHC, I didn't think they should be able to influence anything considering they wish to be seen at arms length.

Cheers,

I have no doubt that Seneca and several others 'meet the criteria', but it's just that nobody (including Carson Dunlop) has been formally accredited yet. Until the NCA has signed agreements with a provider, they will not be given accreditation.

Maybe I wasn't clear about CMHC. They have never 'agreed' to anything about the fees because as you mention, they have remained 'at arms length' or more. I guess I just wanted to make it clear that they have not objected at all to the difference in fees, even when they were higher.

Have a great long week-end.

Bill Mullen

[Douglas Cossar]

Bill and Claude:

Thanks for your effort in making the fees more reasonable.

How about some info about the training component. I can't see any reason to apply without knowing what training or educational institutions are acceptable.

BTW Carson Dunlop is professing to be accredited.

Not True Bill?

Cheers

HAPPY CANADA DAY TO YOU ALL!