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Old 7/23/07, 10:07 PM
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I looked at some of Bill mullens old posts .
The information given does not seam to Balance .
Last February he said " At the moment we have enough people qualified (not all have their certificates yet) to do 7 -10,000 inspections a month and there are enough additional inspectors now in the program to do another 20,000 to 30,000 per month " I find it strange if they have so many already why are the names not listed .
Bill also said he is all but retired and has three Home Inspectors working for him " I have a very successful business with three employees who do most of the work. " well they are not listed on his web site and they are not listed on the OAHI site . I would be disappointed if the CAHPI director has employed Non OAHI/CAHPI home inspectors . I must have missed the very important announcement that was to come out last March. " within one month you can expect to see major announcements of support from some very large non-governmental national organizations. "
If any one can find it I would love to read it .
Bill stated last February they had enough HIs to do 10,000 inspections a month Now when I see 10,000 inspections being done by 100 HIs they are sure going to be busy. Especially when a large part of the "100" are retired and do not do inspections " now a few hundred "even if the 100 is correct they will be doing 5 inspections a day 5 days a week . They must be fantastic Home inspectors.
There are many more of Bill Mullens posts that just seem a bit incorrect.
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http://www.bluewaterhomeinspection.com/index.html Quote: Originally Posted by mkyriacou Bill

I don't believe that you get paid for this. What I believe is that you have an interest in the NCP as certificate holder #00000001.

You know very well that your cert. is useless unless every HI has one.

Good luck with it.
Mario:

I don't need that certificate or any other one. It's great to have #NCA00001 because it was the first. However, it won't bring me one dollar of income because I am all but retired now. I have a very successful business with three employees who do most of the work.

I don't care whether or not every inspector has one. All I care is that I am among a group of (now a few hundred) inspectors who have chosen to avail themselves of the first truly valid and recognized National Certification in Canada.

I'm very proud of that and the work I have done to make it available to everyone. It doesn't adversely affect me one little bit if no more NACHI members sign up. It's their loss and a big gain of more work for those who chose to apply and join the list of 'Holders' who will be sought by banks, insurers, relocation companies, realtors and government agencies like HRSDC and CMHC.

Bill Mullen

2/20/07, 6:41 PM Bill Mullen vbmenu_register("postmenu_165644", true); Bluewater Home Inspection NACHI Member User Name: bmullen1 Location: Sarnia, ON Posts: 225 Re: Do think the National Certification Good or Bad for us? Quote: Originally Posted by rwand1 Bill

Its understandable you are proud of your accomplishments I would be too, but its a misnomer to suggest that HRSDC, realtors, and CMHC, et al, will be only recommending National Certificate Holders particularly if there are insufficient numbers of NCA holders to fill the request. Its all in the numbers.
I agree. It's all in the numbers, and as it looks now, we'll have the numbers to handle the demand. At the moment we have enough people qualified (not all have their certificates yet) to do 7 -10,000 inspections a month and there are enough additional inspectors now in the program to do another 20,000 to 30,000 per month. The CMHC media announcements have already started, and within one month you can expect to see major announcements of support from some very large non-governmental national organizations.

It's all falling into place. I don't think of it as a win for only CAHPI.....it's a win for all legitimate, competent Canadian Home Inspectors. We are now getting the recognition and respect that we'ce coveted for years.

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Old 7/24/07, 7:37 AM
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If this is true, then in comparision you could relate it to RHI status in Ontario.
There are approx. 250 RHI inspectors. Do you think they are getting all the work exclusively; of course not, and the same will be true with Nat. Cert. inspectors.

In other words; hype, and we shouldn't believe everything we read that is produced by CAHPI and the National.
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Old 7/24/07, 8:25 AM
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Roy, that's why I don't bother responding to Bill anymore. Contradictions upon contradictions make any discourse pointless. As Mattie Ross said to Rooster Cogburn "What have you gained when you have bested a fool?"
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Old 7/24/07, 8:32 AM
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Everyone in Ontario should boycot the National for the obvious reasons I have mentioned repeatedly.
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Old 7/24/07, 5:14 PM
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If this is how CMHC intends to help the inspection industry God help us all.
This article is dated July 2007.

Quote:
.... Home inspector fees are generally $200 and more, depending on the size and ...
So much for NC creating a niche and raising prices!

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/co/buh...hostst_005.cfm
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Old 7/24/07, 5:56 PM
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If this is how CMHC intends to help the inspection industry God help us all.
This article is dated July 2007.



So much for NC creating a niche and raising prices!

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/co/buh...hostst_005.cfm
Gee I guess those who are NC understand what they are worth . Glad I have the best certification there is Certified Master Inspector .
There is nothing finer.
Of course we all know NACHI is for all inspectors and OAHI/CAHPI proves they have a closed door policy.
NACHI conference $99:00 for all,
OAHI charges tooooo Much and extra for non members.

There is presently no uniform certification and no requirement for home inspectors to take any courses or to have passed any tests. Anyone can say that they are a home inspector. However, a good home and property inspector generally belongs to a provincial or industry association such as the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors at http://www.cahi.ca and l'Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec at http://www.otpq.qc.ca.
Home inspector fees are generally $200 and more, depending on the size and condition of the home. Use the cfm?renderforprint=1');" target="_blank">Home Inspection Checklist to review your home inspection report.
Bill Mullen says the check list is an inferior way to do inspections .
Strange many OAHI/CAHPI members use the Carson Dunlop Check list system. I do believe Bill did at one time too.



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Old 7/24/07, 6:29 PM
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Marcel Gratton,

Whats this about?
Has otpq.qc.ca usurped CAHPI-Quebec?

There is presently no uniform certification and no requirement for home inspectors to take any courses or to have passed any tests. Anyone can say that they are a home inspector. However, a good home and property inspector generally belongs to a provincial or industry association such as the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors at http://www.cahi.ca and l'Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec at http://www.otpq.qc.ca.

Merci
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Old 7/24/07, 9:11 PM
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Ray,
They are the equivalent of http://www.aato.on.ca/index.html in Ontario. I think that AIBQ ask for their help a few years ago when stories about poor inspections made the papers.
And they kept there foot in the door since...



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Old 7/24/07, 9:30 PM
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So strange how so many non NACHI members come to the NACHI site for their information . So glad NACHI continues to help all. CAHPI had a BB but shut it down as they obviously did not want the CAHPI members finding out how serious things are with the National Certification.
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Old 7/24/07, 9:33 PM
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Thanks Marcel.
Not being able to read french, is there any mention of AIBQ at l'Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec or mention of teaming up or anything about the National?

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Old 7/24/07, 9:47 PM
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is there any mention of AIBQ at l'Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec or mention of teaming up or anything about the National?
No, nothing is mention about the AIBQ nor the National!
An interesting concept at: http://www.ceab.ca/en/index.html



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Old 7/24/07, 10:06 PM
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Marcel.

Thats all very interesting.
It would appear AIBQ is not the voice of inspector or at least seems to have been diluted.
Many questions.
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Old 7/25/07, 10:48 AM
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Rogues Gallery

http://www.nca-anc.com/index.php?opt...d=16&Itemid=32

Which one do you think is the leader?
Which ones do you think appointed one another or tested one another?
Which ones do you think have a conflict of interest?
Which one abused the by-laws, his office and used his position without cause by reporting inspectors who used CHI to ASTTBC only to be found out as a liar, and a rube?


Ray, I was under the impression that RHI was exclusive to OAHI, or is it exclusive to CAHPI?



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Old 7/25/07, 11:13 AM
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Ray, I was under the impression that RHI was exclusive to OAHI, or is it exclusive to CAHPI?
This is what they want every one to think but they have name registered Home Inspectors but not the Letters RHI. I can and do use the RHI frequently.
Roy Cooke . RHI . CAHPI-On and CAHPI-Ont and National Certification.

They would like all to think they own this well sorry but no way.
They bluff and I do not bend.
Some one I expect it is OAHI has succeeded in have my membership removed from ASHI at the end of this month .
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The NC is nothing is nothing more then what OAHI is doing and that is to limit the field of Home Inspectors and make more money to buy their own building.
Control is everything they are out for them selves not The Industry.
CAHPI/OAHI has from the get go ridiculed NACHI and its members.
Every one who gets the National Certification just helps them along on their wants.
The NATIONAL CERTIFICATION IS CLEARLY DESIGNED TO UNFAIRLY BENEFIT CAHPI.
ALL IN THE SUPPOSED NAME OF THE CONSUMER.

They are secret group just try and find out who has the NC or how many there are.



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Old 7/25/07, 1:22 PM
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rhi = real home inspector
rhi = retired home inspector
rhi = retarded home inspector
A door prize maybe offered for the most imaginative rhi.

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