Need to know????

[Michael Larson]

Must be something in the water
Wisconsin Professor of Climatology speaks on Global Warming Theory:

Local scientist calls global warming theory 'hooey' Samara Kalk Derby — 6/18/2007 8:01 am
Reid Bryson, known as the father of scientific climatology, considers global warming a bunch of hooey.
The UW-Madison professor emeritus, who stands against the scientific consensus on this issue, is referred to as a global warming skeptic. But he is not skeptical that global warming exists, he is just doubtful that humans are the cause of it.
There is no question the earth has been warming. It is coming out of the "Little Ice Age," he said in an interview this week.

"Truth" marvelously responded (emphasis added throughout):

"Don't make me throw up...It is not science. It is not true."

But Bryson had loads more to say on this issue (better fasten your seatbelts!):

There is no question the earth has been warming. It is coming out of the "Little Ice Age," he said in an interview this week.
"However, there is no credible evidence that it is due to mankind and carbon dioxide. We've been coming out of a Little Ice Age for 300 years. We have not been making very much carbon dioxide for 300 years. It's been warming up for a long time," Bryson said."
Interview continues

[Michael Larson]

In the interest of being fair and balanced.

We better call in the Super Heros(Oh that's right they aren't real either)
Read this and the previous post and then follow the money.

The Earth today stands in imminent peril

...and nothing short of a planetary rescue will save it from the environmental cataclysm of dangerous climate change. Those are not the words of eco-warriors but the considered opinion of a group of eminent scientists writing in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

By Steve Connor, Science Editor

Published: 19 June 2007



Six scientists from some of the leading scientific institutions in the United States have issued what amounts to an unambiguous warning to the world: civilisation itself is threatened by global warming.
They also implicitly criticise the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) for underestimating the scale of sea-level rises this century as a result of melting glaciers and polar ice sheets.
Instead of sea levels rising by about 40 centimetres, as the IPCC predicts in one of its computer forecasts, the true rise might be as great as several metres by 2100. That is why, they say, planet Earth today is in "imminent peril". The Rest

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

very NIce Thank you Michael

[Michael Larson]

Well now who do we believe?
Settled science, eh?

Read the sunspots

The mud at the bottom of B.C. fjords reveals that solar output drives climate change - and that we should prepare now for dangerous global cooling
R. TIMOTHY PATTERSON, Financial Post

Published: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Politicians and environmentalists these days convey the impression that climate-change research is an exceptionally dull field with little left to discover. We are assured by everyone from David Suzuki to Al Gore to Prime Minister Stephen Harper that "the science is settled." At the recent G8 summit, German Chancellor Angela Merkel even attempted to convince world leaders to play God by restricting carbon-dioxide emissions to a level that would magically limit the rise in world temperatures to 2C.

LINK

[rwand1]

Read the sunspots

I can't I'll burn out my retinas.

[Michael Larson]

I've decided to go GREEN ;-)

Please join me and go Green today!

Print it and display it proudly.

Here is my pledge.

[George A. H. Luck]

I'm in!
It's the least we can do.

[Michael Larson]

OOPS!. More non-"consensus" scientists. I thought this thing was settled. Just who are we to believe?
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Scientists Refute IPCC’s Dismissal of Sunspot Connection to Climate Change
Source

Despite the seemingly ad nauseum claims by alarmists in the media of a consensus amongst scientists that man is responsible for global warming, it now seems that virtually every week, another highly-credentialed individual comes forward to profess a skeptical view.
With that in mind, a significant paper(PDF)concerning the relationship between sunspot activity and rainfall was published this month in the Journal of the South African Institution of Civil Engineering refuting a number of positions held by the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Though highly technical, the work of these five scientists acts to further discredit alarmists’ assertions that the anthropogenic global warming debate is over
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The analysis of this data demonstrates an unequivocal synchronous linkage between these processes in South Africa and elsewhere, and solar activity. This confirms observations and reports by others in many countries during the past 150 years. It is also shown with a high degree of assurance that there is a synchronous linkage between the statistically significant, 21-year periodicity in these processes and the acceleration and deceleration of the sun as it moves through galactic space. Despite a diligent search, no evidence could be found of trends in the data that could be attributed to human activities.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Thanks for your post's Michael .
They add great information .
I am reading an old ( 1988 ) book
A brief History Of Time by Stephen W. Hawking.
What I read just confirms what you say that this Global Warming is just mother Nature doing her thing like she has for ever.
I feel Mankind is just along for the ride and has done little so far to effect what has happened.

[Michael Larson]

Roy,

I very much enjoyed reading Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" too

For anyone who wants quantum physics presented to them in more layman's terms it's a great read.

[George A. H. Luck]

So you are and others are allowed your opinion, but Jason can't have an opinion?

Take your blinders off. The trade imbalance is growing, the fact is America is running a huge trade deficit with third world nations, such as China, India, Mexico. Why? Because you Americans and yes Canadians like cheap products. To suggest these third world nations are the biggest polluters out of their own free will is nonsense. Its driven by consumerism. CONSUMERISM IS AN EXPRESSION OF FREE WILL. YOU DON'T FOR A MINUTE THINK THAT THESE THIRD WORLDERS ARE BEING FORCED TO PRODUCE THIER PROCUCTS DO YOU? Why shouldn't third world countries have the same economic opportunities as North America? THEY SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN MESS. KYOTO ABSOLVES THEM OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY. Or is it because you value cheap gas and consumer goods over that of the planets health? HYPERBOLE.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by gluck

So you are and others are allowed your opinion, but Jason can't have an opinion?

Take your blinders off. The trade imbalance is growing, the fact is America is running a huge trade deficit with third world nations, such as China, India, Mexico. Why? Because you Americans and yes Canadians like cheap products. To suggest these third world nations are the biggest polluters out of their own free will is nonsense. Its driven by consumerism. CONSUMERISM IS AN EXPRESSION OF FREE WILL. YOU DON'T FOR A MINUTE THINK THAT THESE THIRD WORLDERS ARE BEING FORCED TO PRODUCE THIER PROCUCTS DO YOU? Why shouldn't third world countries have the same economic opportunities as North America? THEY SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN MESS. KYOTO ABSOLVES THEM OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY. Or is it because you value cheap gas and consumer goods over that of the planets health? HYPERBOLE.

Sorry George I do not remember saying Jason can not have an opinion.
I do remember saying I do not like any one polluting our country or world.
I do not think our burning of fuels is as big a concern as some do .
I do also feel the thinking that taking of corn to make fuel is defiantly not the way to go .
The thoughts I have had for 30 + years is Nuclear is the best way to go and I have not changed my mind.
We have been constantly been told how we are running out of oil and will have none in a few years .
This keeps changing as to when we will run out of oil .
Most of what I see is just a guess and how can I get the most votes from the public.

[Michael Larson]

There is enough oil, coil, and Uranium to last centuries. Yes, centuries!!

The global warming crusaders know this so you need to think about what their true motives are in attempting to reign back the world's leading economies.

It isn't that hard to do. All you have to do is read their writings and consider who is backing them. The truth is out there.

[Michael Larson]

Looks like the lawyers are figuring out ways to make money on "global warming"

Think this global-warming controversy will blow over soon? The lawyers don't.
Top Dallas firm Thompson & Knight started a dedicated climate-change practice June 4 with 26 lawyers. Today, Dallas' Vinson & Elkins will unveil its 41-lawyer group, headed by a former senior counsel for the World Bank.
The law firms – and a dozen others nationwide – are getting ready for a predicted explosion of climate-related work tied to government regulation, lawsuits against energy companies and new markets that will trade the rights to emit carbon. LINK

[Michael Larson]

Ever Wonder Why The IPCC was Formed? Read On!

by Tony Gilland
So how should we understand the process by which climate science has come to have a defining impact on political life in 2007? On one hand, there is the scientific research that has been conducted, which, most would argue, has strengthened our knowledge of climatic processes and the impact of man-made emissions. On the other hand, the emergence of the science of climate change coincided with strong cultural and political trends, which have interacted with the science and shaped our understanding of the climate change issue in a peculiarly misanthropic way.

• How much of the global warming issue is shaped by new scientific discoveries, and how much by broader cultural and political trends?
• How has the interaction between scientists, international institutions, governments, media and activists influenced the development of climate change policy?
• Was the establishment of the IPCC a visionary act or an expression of political implosion in the West

Read the Whole Essay Here