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Old 10/4/07, 1:46 PM
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Category: Bio-fuels

"What we are saying is that growing biofuels is probably of no benefit and in fact is actually making the climate issue worse"
- Keith Smith

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This illustrates a common problem in public policy -- too often solutions are promoted without understanding their consequences. Few policy makers understood that mandating more ethanol and heavily subsiding it at taxpayer expense would create food shortages in developing nations where corn is an important food staple. But the truth is, there are poor people in developing nations who are struggling to feed themselves and their children so that we can feel good about ourselves using more ethanol. Part of the reason policy makers felt good about mandating more ethanol and using your and my money to pay for it was that they thought it would reduce greenhouse gas emissions. But, of course, they were wrong. In truth, it dramatically increases greenhouse gas emissions.
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Old 10/5/07, 7:59 AM
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Category: Going against the grain

Throughout history it has been hard for individual scientists to go against the consensus but how often has the consensus been wrong?
Quite often actually.

An Inconvenient Expert
MIT climatologist Richard Lindzen is pushing a controversial idea: that mankind isn't to blame for global warming and that Al Gore's apocalypic(sic) warnings are mostly hot air. Right or wrong, why do so many people think he should be silenced? Story
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"While the two sides differ on a number of questions, the debate really comes down to one thing: whether the warming we've begun to see poses a pressing problem or is something the world can adapt to over the long haul. According to Kalee Kreider, a spokeswoman for Al Gore, it is this question, more than any other, that embodies the difference between Lindzen and the former vice president."
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Old 10/6/07, 8:02 AM
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Category:Hard Realities

For all the handringing over what shall be done about "global warming" here is what is actually being proposed by our politicians.
You read it and decide for yourself if the costs involved are worth the the reductions in CO2 claimed. ML


Global Warming’s Trillion-Dollar Turkey

Thursday, October 04, 2007
By Steven Milloy

A trillion dollars doesn’t buy what it used to — at least when it comes to global warming, according to a new analysis from the Environmental Protection Agency.

Last July, this column reported that the latest global warming bill — the Low Carbon Economy Act of 2007, introduced by Sens. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M. and Arlen Specter, R-Pa. — would cost taxpayers more than $1 trillion in its first 10 years and untold trillions of dollars in subsequent decades.

This week, the EPA sent its analysis of the bill’s impact on climate to Bingaman and Specter. Now we can see what we’d get for our money, and we may as well just build a giant bonfire with the cash and enjoy toasting marshmallows over it.

For reference purposes, the current level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is about 380 parts per million. The EPA estimates that if no action is taken to curb CO2 emissions, the atmospheric concentration of CO2 would be 718 ppm by 2095.

If the Bingaman-Specter bill were implemented, however, the EPA estimates that CO2 levels would be 695 ppm — a whopping reduction of 23 ppm.



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Old 10/10/07, 6:28 AM
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Do you like your nice big Plasma or LCD TV?
Watch out! The greenies are out to take it away.

Plasma TVs facing ban
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Old 10/10/07, 6:36 AM
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Category:Things caused by "Global Warming"

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Old 10/15/07, 11:36 AM
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In case you missed this story in the MSM while they were gushing over Al's " Peace Prize"

ONE of the world's leading meteorologists has described the theory that helped Al Gore win a share of the Nobel prize "ridiculous".
P.S.
Can someone explain to me what promoting the theory of global warming has to do with "Peace"?
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Old 10/15/07, 1:30 PM
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The NPP hasn't been about Peace for decades. It has become just another award without any real meaning or substance. The rationale of the 5 peaceniks who chose Al Gore is a stretch to say the least. They somehow extrapolated GW would lead to nations invading other nations due to food and heating oil shortages (their own words, not mine), thus by giving it to Al it would prevent future wars. I do not think this was the intent of the Founder of the Peace Prize but he isn't here to defend it any longer. I think it lost any real significance when Arafat got it and had already suffered prior to that when Stalin and Mussolini got nominated for it. That should have been proof enough the cat was out of the bag. Pretty much the same fate as all the other awards that liberals give each other (i.e. Oscars, Emmys, etc) The shows have become nothing more than opportunity for some half wit actor to get up and make a political statement, for Whoppi to show her ***** and her ignorance. Probably why no one watches those shows and haven't for years. Their whole system is running out of track and soon to go the way of the DoDo (much like newsprint).



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Old 10/15/07, 7:27 PM
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Thanks Doug. It lost any meaning for me when it was awarded to a terroist a.k.a. Yassar Arafat.
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Old 10/15/07, 11:23 PM
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Didn't Kissinger get a peace prize for bombing Cambodia? Liberal Bastard.
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Old 10/16/07, 7:58 AM
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Didn't Kissinger get a peace prize for bombing Cambodia? Liberal Bastard.
1973 The prize was awarded jointly to:
HENRY A. KISSINGER , Secretary of State, State Department, Washington.
LE DUC THO , Democratic Republic of Viet Nam. (Declined the prize.)
for jointly negotiating the Vietnam peace accord in 1973.

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Old 10/16/07, 8:24 AM
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1973 The prize was awarded jointly to:
HENRY A. KISSINGER , Secretary of State, State Department, Washington.
LE DUC THO , Democratic Republic of Viet Nam. (Declined the prize.)
for jointly negotiating the Vietnam peace accord in 1973.

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Very interesting!!!

Now, I wonder if Donald Rumsfeld will get the prize some day for the peace that might come in Iraq some distant future day??
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Old 10/16/07, 8:32 AM
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Very interesting!!!

Now, I wonder if Donald Rumsfeld will get the prize some day for the peace that might come in Iraq some distant future day??
What makes you think there will ever be peace in Iraq ,
It was Persia before and did they ever have peace that lasted for any time .
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Old 10/16/07, 8:53 AM
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What makes you think there will ever be peace in Iraq ,
It was Persia before and did they ever have peace that lasted for any time .
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Old 10/16/07, 9:07 AM
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“I have found the missing link between the higher ape and civilized man: It is we.” Konrad Lorenz

Some day we may trully be civilized and human, in the way we like to envision ourselves.....not like animals.
Did he not say that a lot of how we act is hereditary
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Like the monark Butterfly knows how to fly to Mexico passed down through the lines who,s parent had never been there.

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