Need to know????

[rwand1]

Jason

I don't think anyone one should rule out anything when it comes to the climate. It seem there is more evidence from the experts supporting the change than there is information disproving it.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Jason

I don't think anyone one should rule out anything when it comes to the climate.

I agree.

Originally Posted by rwand1

It seem there is more evidence from the experts supporting the change than there is information disproving it.

There once existed more evidence for a flat earth as well and that the earth was the center of the sloar system and universe.
This was the consenus amongst the learned of the time.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by mlarson

There once existed more evidence for a flat earth as well and that the earth was the center of the sloar system and universe.
This was the consenus amongst the learned of the time.

It was also once believed that Iraq had WMD, look where that got us

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Jason1

It was also once believed that Iraq had WMD, look where that got us

Not germane to the topic at hand.
So you mean better and more accurate information came to light. Hmmm, now that's interesting.

[rwand1]

Jason stated..

It was also once believed that Iraq had WMD, look where that got us.

You mean "them" don't ya?

I think WMD are germane, after all nuclear tests and detonations, and war all contribute more than their fare share of green house gases, not to mention other toxic substances.

[Michael Larson]

On the subject of WMDs.

http://msunderestimated.com/RealFreeSpeech011207.wmv

[rwand1]

There you go with thread drift again.
Besides the site only got a one star rating!

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by mlarson

So you mean better and more accurate information came to light. Hmmm, now that's interesting.

Unfortunately thosands had to die to find out.

Is that your answer to climate change? wait till we lose a few million people, not to mention plants and animals, then say Opps! we screwed up, turns out climate change is real, and man was a significant contributor to it. Sh**, we should have done something about it when we could have......

Oh well, carry on boys, where's the next issue that we can do nothing about till it's to late.....
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[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Unfortunately thosands had to die to find out.

Is that your answer to climate change? wait till we lose a few million people, not to mention plants and animals, then say Opps! we screwed up, turns out climate change is real, and man was a significant contributor to it. Sh**, we should have done something about it when we could have......

Oh well, carry on boys, where's the next issue that we can do nothing about till it's to late.....
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Bold assertions jason1, care to share any supported facts.

Are you familiar with the precautionary principle?

"When we could have"

What can we do-what is the cost -what else could be done instead and more cost effectively?

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by mlarson

What can we do-what is the cost -what else could be done instead and more cost effectively?

You tell me, since you seem to diagree with the scientific thinking on this subject

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Jason1

You tell me, since you seem to diagree with the scientific thinking on this subject

Who's scientific thinking jason?

I do disagree but you said you had done a lot of research on this issue. I will post various articles and research but after I have given you first crack at it.

Here is a teaser for you.

144. We welcome the Government’s recognition of the central role of economics
in considering climate change. But we believe that the Chancellor needs to
broaden the scope of the Government’s interests, and the Treasury’s
interests in particular, in aspects of the climate change debate that we feel
have not yet been given sufficient emphasis (para 2).
145. We are concerned that the links between projected economic change in the
world economy and climate change have not been as rigorously explored as
they should have been by the IPCC. We believe the complex interactions
between world economic growth and climate change need additional scrutiny
at the international level, and that the UK Government has a role to play in
ensuring that this happens. We are also concerned that clearer messages
should be conveyed to the public about the likely costs and benefits of
climate change control, who will bear those costs and benefits, and when
(para 2).
146. We are not convinced that there is sufficient public awareness of the
economics of climate change. Any public misperception on these issues could
threaten the political feasibility of getting plans of action put into effect. If
climate change is as serious as most scientists claim, and as the Government
accepts, then it is important to convey the complementary message that the
action to tackle it will also have to be serious and potentially life-changing. It
is better to be honest now than to shield the public from the economic
realities inherent in the more pessimistic forecasts (para 3).

[rwand1]

Michael

Were you on the high school debating team?

[Michael Larson]

No Raymond, I had no interest back then. I came to appreciate debate and discussion much later in life. I am concerned that people have lost the ability to think for themselves and rely far too much on others opinions without forming their own.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by mlarson

I am concerned that people have lost the ability to think for themselves and rely far too much on others opinions without forming their own.

That's a broad assumption.

Just because one's opinion doesn't mesh with your own, does not mean they cannot think for themselves.

Geez Micheal, get over yourself.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Who's scientific thinking jason?

You seem like a smart chap, type "climate change" into Google, tons of info and it will save me the effort.

But, I think you have already done that and formed an opinion of your own, so no need for me to try and sway you. I have no interest in "engaging" you.