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Old 4/9/08, 6:55 PM
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You're right, Linus.

I think that "the long sleep" is near.

Just keep walking toward the light, Roy......go to the light......
James, you're being FACTIOUS. A couple more days of this will surely do him in.
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Old 4/9/08, 6:58 PM
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James, you're being FACTIOUS. A couple more days of this will surely do him in.
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But then...who will be here to "help" all of the people?



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But then...who will be here to "help" all of the people?
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Bill, can you volunteer for this MICB audit committee? I'm able to digitize all new applications and accompaning documents do that review can be done easily.
I am always willing to help improve the industry. I would need to see what the job entails, and whether it would be free of interference from anyone. I will give it some thought tonight.

Joe mentioned that he thought non-inspectors should be the committee. I agree to a point. I like the idea of people who are knowledgeable about certification and accreditation being aboard, but you also need an inspector's perspective. I would suggest a 50/50 split.

In the NCP, we have a Certification Council with eight seats, and three are non-inspectors and five are inspectors. Each application goes to three people, one of whom is a non-inspector.

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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

Hey Bill thats a great idea, then you can stream MCI's into OAHPI and then into the National, to get the numbers up. The only problem is Nicks reluctance to bite the bullet and seek equivalency, but that may weaken his overall scheme with CMI, ... I guess time will tell, but I like what I am hearing.

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Old 4/9/08, 8:37 PM
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Hey Bill thats a great idea, then you can stream MCI's into OAHPI and then into the National, to get the numbers up. The only problem is Nicks reluctance to bite the bullet and seek equivalency, but that may weaken his overall scheme with CMI, ... I guess time will tell, but I like what I am hearing.

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It would be nice if everyone could work together and make good things happen.

However, no matter if I decide to help Nick or turn him down, someone is going to criticize the decision.

It could be either 'Dancing with the Devil,'or The ride of my life.

This could be my opportunity to bring the CMI and the NCP at least into the same room for fair comparision.

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Bill interesting concept, but given the attitude towards Nick in particular by many in CAHPI/OAHI it would be like trying to sell snake oil.

Here's hoping.

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Bill interesting concept, but given the attitude towards Nick in particular by many in CAHPI/OAHI it would be like trying to sell snake oil.

Here's hoping.

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Well, it's time everybody looked around and saw how we as a group have held ourselves back. There doesn't have to even be a formal 'merger' or 'strategic alliance' or 'partnership'. There just has to be a universal desire to better ourselves in the eyes of the public, realtors, bankers, insurers, but most of all, ourselves.

How can we expect outsiders to take us seriously when we fight like kids over the smallest things and treat each other so viciously?

Enough is enough. Many, like me, are old enough and secure enough that we don't give a damn what others think of us or our beliefs, so I have not been afraid to do unpopular things, and neither have you and some others, in the interest of the common good.

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Default Re: New MICB department to audit CMI designees and new applications

Bill

I couldn't agree more with your sentiments.

Let me work on Nick, I know he is anxious to do whats right. He has to save face by not appearing to cave in to quickly.

Nick work with us, make it happen.
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Well, it's time everybody looked around and saw how we as a group have held ourselves back. There doesn't have to even be a formal 'merger' or 'strategic alliance' or 'partnership'. There just has to be a universal desire to better ourselves in the eyes of the public, realtors, bankers, insurers, but most of all, ourselves.

How can we expect outsiders to take us seriously when we fight like kids over the smallest things and treat each other so viciously?

Enough is enough. Many, like me, are old enough and secure enough that we don't give a damn what others think of us or our beliefs, so I have not been afraid to do unpopular things, and neither have you and some others, in the interest of the common good.

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Bill you already know I am fairly new to this industry but I have already seen enough about how inspectors treat one another and the industry that those words you just said is exactly what is needed to bring the respect that this industry needs and deserves.
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Well, it's time everybody looked around and saw how we as a group have held ourselves back. There doesn't have to even be a formal 'merger' or 'strategic alliance' or 'partnership'. There just has to be a universal desire to better ourselves in the eyes of the public, realtors, bankers, insurers, but most of all, ourselves.

How can we expect outsiders to take us seriously when we fight like kids over the smallest things and treat each other so viciously?

Enough is enough. Many, like me, are old enough and secure enough that we don't give a damn what others think of us or our beliefs, so I have not been afraid to do unpopular things, and neither have you and some others, in the interest of the common good.

Bill Mullen
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Old 4/10/08, 10:30 AM
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Well, it's time everybody looked around and saw how we as a group have held ourselves back. There doesn't have to even be a formal 'merger' or 'strategic alliance' or 'partnership'. There just has to be a universal desire to better ourselves in the eyes of the public, realtors, bankers, insurers, but most of all, ourselves.

How can we expect outsiders to take us seriously when we fight like kids over the smallest things and treat each other so viciously?

Enough is enough. Many, like me, are old enough and secure enough that we don't give a damn what others think of us or our beliefs, so I have not been afraid to do unpopular things, and neither have you and some others, in the interest of the common good.

Bill Mullen
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Old 4/10/08, 4:37 PM
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Well, it's time everybody looked around and saw how we as a group have held ourselves back. There doesn't have to even be a formal 'merger' or 'strategic alliance' or 'partnership'. There just has to be a universal desire to better ourselves in the eyes of the public, realtors, bankers, insurers, but most of all, ourselves.

How can we expect outsiders to take us seriously when we fight like kids over the smallest things and treat each other so viciously?

Enough is enough. Many, like me, are old enough and secure enough that we don't give a damn what others think of us or our beliefs, so I have not been afraid to do unpopular things, and neither have you and some others, in the interest of the common good.

Bill Mullen
Agreed Bill, I would just add "Mutual Respect" between members/associations





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