NHICC recieves formal CMHC support

[Bill Mullen]

The NHICC has now received written, official approval and support from CMHC. I have attached a link to a very recent letter signed by Doug Stewart, CMHC Vice President.

This letter, combined with a similar one that was earlier received from the Construction Sector Council and another from FNNBOA, prove that the NHICC is on the right track.

The NHICC is being recognized widely as the only national group eligible to deliver a true National Certification, following the CHIBO model, to ALL Canadian Home Inspectors.

I encourage existing NCH's to transfer your certification soon. (Go to www.nationalhomeinspector.org and look for 'Certification') The old NCH through CAHPI is scheduled to expire within a few months, and you will no longer have your National certification. For only the month of January 2011, the transfer can be done for only $ 50.00 + HST.

Once they expire, tranfers will be much more cumbersome and a bit more expensive.

Bill Mullen


http://www.nationalhomeinspector.org/Document.pdf

[George A. H. Luck]

" CMHC is aware of other efforts within the home inspection industry to develop and offer similar home inspector certification frameworks. Hopefully there will emerge a commonality among approaches that will allow home inspectors to demonstrate competencies anywhere in Canada and home buyers to identify qualified and knowledgeable home inspectors no matter where they live."

" CMHC is aware of other efforts..." They certainly are.

"Hopefully there will emerge a commonality..." not exactly a ringing endorsement of nhicc.

Obviously, with less than 10% of Canadian Inspectors being involved, the recent collapse of the programme, it's connection to the same 'industry leaders' responsible for the last debacle and the disappearance of all that money, the CMHC is hedging their bets. In fact one of the other major 'stake holders' does not think that there is much chance of success.

But you never know. . . . . . .

[Wand Raymond]

CMHC is aware of other efforts within the home inspection industry to develop and offer similar home inspection certification frameworks. Hopefully, there will emerge a commonality among approaches that will allow home inspectors to demonstrate competencies anywhere in Canada and home buyers to identify and knowledge home inspectors no matter where they live.

Nice spin Bill, your interpretation is not quite what is implied by the letter from CMHC.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gluck

" CMHC is aware of other efforts within the home inspection industry to develop and offer similar home inspector certification frameworks. Hopefully there will emerge a commonality among approaches that will allow home inspectors to demonstrate competencies anywhere in Canada and home buyers to identify qualified and knowledgeable home inspectors no matter where they live."

" CMHC is aware of other efforts..." They certainly are.

Might they be referring to CAHPI which, from what I understand, is also looking to be an NCP affiliate again?

"Hopefully there will emerge a commonality..." not exactly a ringing endorsement of nhicc.

It's a free country so folks will do what they wish....they're hoping a single country wide certification program will emerge to begin to unify this splintered profession. The more groups that embrace the NCP, the faster a national standard will emerge.

Obviously, with less than 10% of Canadian Inspectors being involved, the recent collapse of the programme, it's connection to the same 'industry leaders' responsible for the last debacle and the disappearance of all that money, the CMHC is hedging their bets. In fact one of the other major 'stake holders' does not think that there is much chance of success.

But you never know. . . . . . .

Do you have accurate figures on that %?

BTW, how many members does ACHI have? I notice that only 13-14 people post on the ACHI forums.......and you do not have to be a member to post......Is that correct?

[Wand Raymond]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Do you have accurate figures on that %?

BTW, how many members does ACHI have? I notice that only 13-14 people post on the ACHI forums.......and you do not have to be a member to post......Is that correct?

What does the posting of info by Bill have to do with ACHI? Absolutely nothing. The issue here is Bill spinning a story around an acknowledgement which is not an endorsement.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103

Copied from an RCOOKE post yesterday:

Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103

AH! Yes, I see the pattern ......and NOW.......... The BIG THREE R's------REPEAT.....REPEAT.......REPEAT........maybe someone will read the distant past.

Some interesting comments on the second thread.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Thanks for showing us how Bills word is useless and showing how you to think it is a big deal that Bill has not completed his anouncements as he said he would .
This has happened many times over the years .
It is sad and I do like Bill he has done a lot for thsi industry and was a big help to me when I started .
I do hope we all can soon get along .
I just read a lot of old posts I( am sure you saw them too) .
They are sure full of a lot of Information on what Bill has coming in two weeks .
Some how it must have got mislaid 3 years ago..
Bill has had so much information coming out soon like 5,000 Canadian Home Inspectors will need to be licensed in 2007 ~.
He said 6 provinces where looking to license Home Inspectors shortly .

[Marc-Andre Beauchemin]

Bill may be trying to accomplish something good but I would be surprised to see CMHC (Federal body) dictate to Provincial Government legislators?

If you ask me, home inspection business is free entreprise and National Certification should be free as long as an agreed upon National SOP is endorsed.

We'll see what happens, but NACHI is still the best family to be a part of!

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by Wand Raymond

What does the posting of info by Bill have to do with ACHI? Absolutely nothing.
Well, the public face of ACHI posted more in the vein of the BIG THREE I's- INSINUATION, INFERENCE & INNUENDO- It deserves a response!

The issue here is Bill spinning a story around an acknowledgement which is not an endorsement.

Does ACHI have such an acknowledgement from any of the construction sector parties?

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by Wand Raymond

Nice spin Bill, your interpretation is not quite what is implied by the letter from CMHC.

GLUCK:
"Hopefully there will emerge a commonality..." not exactly a ringing endorsement of nhicc.

RWAND with his emphasis:
CMHC is aware of other efforts within the home inspection industry to develop and offer similar home inspection certification frameworks. Hopefully, there will emerge a commonality among approaches that will allow home inspectors to demonstrate competencies anywhere in Canada and home buyers to identify and knowledge home inspectors no matter where they live.

They are talking about "a" commonality among approaches. This to me implies a single recognized designation that many groups could arrive at through their own processes and means. It leaves the field open for as many HI's and HI orgs as the free market can endure.......not a bad situation in a free country, is it?

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

GLUCK:
"Hopefully there will emerge a commonality..." not exactly a ringing endorsement of nhicc.

RWAND with his emphasis:
CMHC is aware of other efforts within the home inspection industry to develop and offer similar home inspection certification frameworks. Hopefully, there will emerge a commonality among approaches that will allow home inspectors to demonstrate competencies anywhere in Canada and home buyers to identify and knowledge home inspectors no matter where they live.

They are talking about "a" commonality among appraoches. This to me implies a single recognized designation that many groups could arrive at through their own processes and means. It leaves the field open for as many HI's and HI orgs as the free market can endure.......not a bad situation in a free country, is it?

That's exactly right, Brian.

The National Certification Program is not and never will be the private property of any one person or group. It's a public asset, legally owned by the Construction Sector Council. Any group in Canada that can prove it has proper governance and policies in place can ask for rights to the program.

Any one of the many associations in Canada could apply to deliver the program. Included in the stipulations are that the NOS must be honoured and the certification program of the organization must meet or exceed the certification model laid out in the NCP documents that were developed through the CHIBO meetings. Proper and measureable oversight and audits need to be in place.

The 'other efforts' referred to in the CMHC letter include CAHPI National, because they have asked for the right to certifiy their own members. I understand that ACHI and CanNACHI have been making inquiries about the same thing, and if they agree to adhere to the CHIBO requirements for training, experience and rigor, and honour the NOS, they could very well be recognized, and more power to them.

The fact is, the NHICC is the only independent group in Canada that now has that recognition from both the CSC and CMHC. The NHICC version is a clean, unfettered certification because the NHICC has no ties to any organization so it dos not dance to anyone else's drummer, as was the case unfortunately for the old NCA.

Members of any and all associations are welcome to apply to the NHICC without jeopardizing their standing in the relative association. The NHICC is NOT a rival for any associations. It is merely a vehicle for national certification. Inspectors can become objectiveley tested and nationally certified by the NHICC but still enjoy the benefits offered by the various associations. It's a win/win situation.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Bill Mullen

That's exactly right, Brian.

The National Certification Program is not and never will be the private property of any one person or group. It's a public asset, legally owned by the Construction Sector. Any group in Canada that can prove it has proper governance and policies in place can ask for rights to the program.

Any one of the many associations in Canada could apply to deliver the program. Included in the stipulations are that the NOS must be honoured and the certification program of the organization must meet or exceed the certification model laid out in the NCP documents that were developed through the CHIBO meetings. Proper and measureable oversight and audits need to be in place.

The 'other efforts' referred to in the CMHC letter include CAHPI National, because they have asked for the right to certifiy their own members. I understand that ACHI and CanNACHI have been making inquiries about the same thing, and if they agree to adhere to the CHIBO requirements for training, experience and rigor, and honour the NOS, they could very well be recognized, and more power to them.

The fact is, the NHICC is the only independent group in Canada that now has that recognition from both the CSC and CMHC. The NHICC version is a clean, unfettered certification because the NHICC has no ties to any organization so it dos not dance to anyone else's drummer, as was the case unfortunately for the old NCA.

Members of any and all associations are welcome to apply to the NHICC without jeopardizing their standing in the relative association.

Bill Mullen

Thanks Bill much appreciated

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

This is why the National guys will never support a grandfathering program because it kills any hope of limiting the number of practicing inspectors to them and their friends .

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[George A. H. Luck]

endorsement
1. the act or an instance of endorsing
2. something that endorses, such as a signature or qualifying comment
3. approval or support



acknowledgment
1. recognition: the state or quality of being recognized or acknowledged; "the partners were delighted with the recognition of their work"; "she seems to avoid much in the way of recognition or acknowledgement of feminist work prior to her own"
2. acknowledgment: a statement acknowledging something or someone; "she must have seen him but she gave no sign of acknowledgment"; "the preface contained an acknowledgment of those who had helped her"

Acknowledgment.