Nick evades questions/comments!!

[Linas Dapkus]

Originally Posted by kwood

If only we can have an exclusive insurance company that will give us the rates we deserve.
I was paying $4000.00/year
Approximately 13+ inspections went to my insurance.
This year they gave me a better price
$3300.00 that works out to 11+ inspections/year

CMI= Certified Monkey Intelligence
I am not of monkey intelligence and I pay $1600/year for E&O
Here's a tip-tell them you were just kidding about being a CMI, you'll get a better rate.

[Nick Gromicko]

CMI doesn't require CE of existing CMI's because CMI defines a point in time for an inspector.

It is the point in time in his/her career where he/she (has been in the business for more than 3 years) AND (performed a combination of 1,000 inspections or hours of inspection-related education).

Since time only flows in one direction, once someone is a CMI, they can never not be, even if they stop inspecting and stop taking education. So it makes no sense to require them to continue for as long as they live.

A CMI can never have a morning where he/she wakes up and discovers that the number of inspections or amount of education he/she has completed in his/her career has decreased. Those numbers can only increase.

[Nick Gromicko]

BTW: Roy is correct. Bob Francis did not get his CMI for free. I personally sent him one of my own checks and he used the money to apply. That isn't free.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by gromicko

BTW: Roy is correct. Bob Francis did not get his CMI for free. I personally sent him one of my own checks and he used the money to apply. That isn't free.

Trying to figure that out since I am not a business guru but that means you get to right off a donation,collect the fee at the other end and then pay out your salary to your favorite employee.
I like it.

[Nick Gromicko]

As for E&O insurance, the largest insurer in the inspection industry (FREA) gives CMIs zero deductible... at no extra charge.

Now why would an E&O insurer not charge a deductible to CMIs? Sounds like they want to insure CMIs. Why? Oh wait, I know why: Fewer claims/CMI. Seems like all that inspection experience and education means something.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by gromicko

CMI doesn't require CE of existing CMI's because CMI defines a point in time for an inspector.

It is the point in time in his/her career where he/she (has been in the business for more than 3 years) AND (performed a combination of 1,000 inspections or hours of inspection-related education).

Since time only flows in one direction, once someone is a CMI, they can never not be, even if they stop inspecting and stop taking education. So it makes no sense to require them to continue for as long as they live.

A CMI can never have a morning where he/she wakes up and discovers that the number of inspections or amount of education he/she has completed in his/her career has decreased. Those numbers can only increase.

So a CMI can do nothing to retain knowledge and become stagnant,behind present day knowledge and still look like a Master.

Yep ,great for marketing.

(sorry I belong to NACHI) all other designations mean nothing to me.
CMI can not compete with.....

The International Association of Certified Home Inspectors (InterNACHI) promotes a high standard of professionalism, business ethics and inspection procedures. InterNACHI members subscribe to the following Code of Ethics in the course of their business.
Duty to the Public
The InterNACHI member shall abide by the Code of Ethics and substantially follow the InterNACHI Standards of Practice.
The InterNACHI member shall not engage in any practices that could be damaging to the public or bring discredit to the home inspection industry.
The InterNACHI member shall be fair, honest, impartial, and act in good faith in dealing with the public.
The InterNACHI member shall not discriminate in any business activities on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, familial status, sexual orientation or handicap, and shall comply with all applicable federal, state and local laws concerning discrimination.
The InterNACHI member shall be truthful regarding his/her services and qualifications.
The InterNACHI member shall have no undisclosed conflict of interest with the client, nor shall the InterNACHI member accept or offer any undisclosed commissions, rebates, profits or other benefit, nor shall the InterNACHI member accept or offer any disclosed or undisclosed commissions, rebates, profits or other benefit from real estate agents, brokers or any third parties having financial interest in the sale of the property, nor shall the InterNACHI member offer or provide any disclosed or undisclosed financial compensation directly or indirectly to any real estate agent, real estate broker or real estate company for referrals or for inclusion on lists of preferred and/or affiliated inspectors or inspection companies.
The InterNACHI member shall not communicate any information about an inspection to anyone except the client without the prior written consent of the client, except where it may affect the safety of others, or violates a law or statute.
The InterNACHI member shall always act in the interest of the client, unless doing so violates a law, statute or this Code of Ethics.
The InterNACHI member shall use a written contract that specifies the services to be performed, limitations of services, and fees.
The InterNACHI member shall comply with all government rules and licensing requirements of the jurisdiction where he/she conducts business.
The InterNACHI member shall not perform or offer to perform, for an additional fee, any repairs or repair-associated services to the structure on which the member or member's company has prepared a home inspection report for a period of 12 months. This provision shall not include services to components and/or systems which are not included in the InterNACHI Standards of Practice.

Duty to Continue Education
The InterNACHI member shall comply with InterNACHI's current Continuing Education requirements.
The InterNACHI member shall pass the InterNACHI's Online Inspector Exam once every calendar year.

Duty to the Profession and InterNACHI
The InterNACHI member shall strive to improve the home inspection industry by sharing his/her lessons and/or experiences for the benefit of all. This does not preclude the member from copyrighting or marketing his/her expertise to other inspectors or the public in any manner permitted by law.
The InterNACHI member shall assist the InterNACHI leadership in disseminating and publicizing the benefits of InterNACHI membership.
The InterNACHI member shall not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to InterNACHI, fellow InterNACHI members, InterNACHI employees, leadership or directors. Member(s) accused of acting or deemed in violation of such rules shall be reviewed by the Ethics committee for possible sanctions and/or expulsion from InterNACHI.
The InterNACHI member shall abide by InterNACHI's current membership requirements.
The InterNACHI member shall abide by InterNACHI's current message board rules.

[Nick Gromicko]

Trying to figure that out since I am not a business guru but that means you get to right off a donation,collect the fee at the other end and then pay out your salary to your favorite employee.
I like it.

Wow, you just beat Bob Elliot's record of being wrong twice in one post with this one where you are wrong three times in one sentence!

• No, I can't write (note spelling) off a personal gift to Bob Francis. Strike one.
• No, I don't collect the fee on the other end, the fee didn't go to me. Strike two.
• No, the MICB doesn't have any paid employees and never has. See our public 990 IRS filing. Strike three.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Wow, you just beat Bob Elliot's record of being wrong twice in one post with this one where you are wrong three times in one sentence!

• No, I can't write (note spelling) off a personal gift to Bob Francis. Strike one.
• No, I don't collect the fee on the other end, the fee didn't go to me. Strike two.
• No, the MICB doesn't have any paid employees and never has. See our public 990 IRS filing. Strike three.

Told you I am not a business guru now didn't I.
Just a plain simple caveman trying to compete against all associations that are not NACHI.

Could use a little help with that.

[Nick Gromicko]

If you mean CMI, my advice is this: If you can't beat them, join them.

Why don't you try it Bob? If you find that it doesn't sell more inspection jobs, get more clients to choose you, and cause you to be able to command higher fees.... I'll personally refund your money and you give up your CMI status.

There. No risk.

Heads you win (and make endless additional revenue for years). Tails you break even.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by gromicko

If you mean CMI, my advice is this: If you can't beat them, join them.

Why don't you try it Bob? If you find that it doesn't sell more inspection jobs, get more clients to choose you, and cause you to be able to command higher fees.... I'll personally refund your money and you give up your CMI status.

There. No risk.

Heads you win (and make endless additional revenue for years). Tails you break even.

I may take you up on that some day,but not today and there is no day like today but tomorrow ...please...has got to be better.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

CMI doesn't require CE of existing CMI's because CMI defines a point in time for an inspector.

It is the point in time in his/her career where he/she (has been in the business for more than 3 years) AND (performed a combination of 1,000 inspections or hours of inspection-related education).

Since time only flows in one direction, once someone is a CMI, they can never not be, even if they stop inspecting and stop taking education. So it makes no sense to require them to continue for as long as they live.

A CMI can never have a morning where he/she wakes up and discovers that the number of inspections or amount of education he/she has completed in his/her career has decreased. Those numbers can only increase.

LOL......That's what ordinary folks do when CMI requirements are explained to them!

As long as you can keep information out of the hands of the public, it has a chance but an informed customer will still choose the best inspector, not a LOGO!

[KEVIN WOOD]

Cannot get FREA in SSM On.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

LOL......That's what ordinary folks do when CMI requirements are explained to them!

As long as you can keep information out of the hands of the public, it has a chance but an informed customer will still choose the best inspector, not a LOGO!

Many have told me that they selected me for an inspection job because I was CMI. Those three words give the consumer a verifiable source they can depend on, and that a CMI has completed 1000 inspections and/or education hours, plus has been in business for over 3 years. Every single day consumers hire CMI's because it bridges the "trust" gap with a credible third party endorsement that comes from the Master Inspector Certification Board as a witness to their qualifications.

CMI requirements are way more stringent than what the state of Texas requires (and Texas is the strictest in the US). What's the problem?

[Vern Mitchinson]

Originally Posted by gromicko

No consumer ever chose you to do an inspection because they checked your BBB rating and found it to be good. Consumers only check BBB ratings to see if they are bad.

I do this marketing stuff for a living guys. WARNING: Don't try this at home.

Nick, I've had clients tell that they hired me because I was a member of the BBB and had a top rating. It did not generate a lot of business but it provided more work that more then paid for the cost of BBB membership.
CMI generates more business then BBB but when you have both you are way ahead.