OAHI Knowledge CAFE

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

9/29/2011 9:35:55 AM
A Veteran's Suspension
Wayne Christopher

Well I see OAHI in true fashion is exercising censorship. It seems our friend Bill Mullen has been suspended from the Cafe' for 90 days for posting information about licensing in Alberta and the NHICC's being approved as a participant in that process, as they are in BC. Being one of the board members during the development and acceptance of the Policies and Procedures manual, articles cited in the letter to Bill why he was being suspended nowhere come close supporting their reasons for the suspension. Nowhere in the Cafe' posting does/did Bill promote or advertise a product or service.

They also took his name off the "Inspector Search" page. Now thats dirty. Hmmmmm different people same tricks.

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9/29/2011 6:39:04 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Claude Lawrenson

My take - advertising delivers awareness, publicity or PR delivers credibility. Seems that Bill was attemting to offer credibility based on facts and based on real home inspection industry related events!

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10/1/2011 9:53:52 AM
A Veteran's Suspension
Bob Johnston

A MESSAGE TO THE "POWERS THAT BE" - PAST AND PRESENT:

By banning one of the biggest supporters of Canadian inspectors and the inspection industry for telling it like it is, OAHI has become a Bush League "club" run by mental midgets. It's definitely not the vibrant organization I joined 15 years ago.

And for those of you who feel offended by being referred to as mental midgets, what logical, fully thought-out reason can you give us for arbitrarily applying a $60. "fine" to ALL members, including those who are not eligible to vote, to "solve" the quorum problem that happens every AGM? See the paragraph above for just one of the answers. Your treatment of Bill Mullen only adds another straw to the camel's back.

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10/3/2011 6:15:10 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Wayne Christopher

Kirk, You are just too funny. Unfortunately you are no better then those you accuse of not having the facts. Fact is membership is down and from all those I hear from it is for the same reasons, lack of communication between members and the board, office staff and the registrar, and lack of promoting the members to the public. The only reason most of us seniors stay members is because we value our RHI designation.

I would suggest you heed your own saying but alas unfortunately for you, you're on the losing end of either part of it.

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10/3/2011 2:06:48 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Kirk Iredale

You guys are entitled to your opinion but please get your facts right or better yet find out what the facts are before you open your mouth.

There is an old proverb you might want to consider:

"It is better to say nothing and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

The only thing we are afraid of is what is the next stupid thing one of "our" "veteran" members is going say so that we have to take time we don't have to explain to the new members that one of their associates does not know what they are talking about again!

Like Bob for instance, Bob where do you get these stupid ideas and will you please keep them to yourself!

The Board increased ONLY "voting" members dues by $50.00 which would be deducted at renewal if they attended the AGM.
And it did solve our quorum issue and Bob you are only the second person to have something negative to say about it.

And Claude you are right, Bill just presented it in the wrong forum.

And Harry you are right too, I never thought we would have to apologies for our senior members either.

And Wayne, you are never right. It is a different board, we just have less tolerance for non-board member interpretation of policy and procedure.

If any of you would like to put your money where your mouth is and get back on the board and work as a team and not as individuals, you would be most welcome. Assuming of course that you could convince enough members that you are capable of that and that you have the OAHI's best interests at heart, (you might be OK if you talk to the people that don't read this forum).

Kirk Iredale, RHI

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10/3/2011 9:59:09 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Harry Janssen

Wayne,you might as well talk to the wall,same result. No one is listening when members or old timers ask questions,they are so self absorbed with there own importance and roles,mere mortals like you and me and members do not count,every time Iredale posts ,he proves this fact.
May I make a suggestion,you ,me, Bob Johnston, Bill Mullen and other like minded people no longer post or comment,since the board has every thing under control. As you indicated enrollment is down,so lets let them self destruct,I will not affect us old timers any way and at the end of the day,when did any one ask any one of us,what does OAHI stand for or what does it mean,sad but true.

[Wand Raymond]

Discrimination alive and well within OAHI.

No right to a hearing, no right to appeal. Sound familiar? OAHI members do not have any rights, and anybody who has the balls to speak up is admonished, suspended, name taken off the search function without due process or cause!

A new board has not changed the mentality. The clique which runs OAHI continues to run it.

The new directors continue to ask for volunteers to no avail. They are party to the discrimination and malice in their attempts to silence those they perceive as threats.

No financial accountability.

No advertising, a substantial drop in membership, profits from courses (at inflated prices) not being put back into membership benefits. A select few profiting by teaching courses while others who are qualified are ignored. Quite a bunch of fine professional inspectors, wouldn't you say?

I guess those who did renew did so in order to protect their business interests, you know; providing reporting software, report books, running inspector mills, acting as directors of competing associations ... ah yes the hypocrites are a timid bunch.

Too bad, and this association likes to think of itself as the voice of the inspection profession, and wants to bend the ear of the government should licencing come about.

[Rudolf Reusse]

Having been once one of the founding members of that club - it is a miracle that the OAHI has not bitten the dust by now. However, it seems that there are still enough gullible dreamers around who believe that the "RHI Designation" will give them an advantage in the marketplace. It is a waste of time to educate these nincompoops that this is not, nor will it ever be the case.

It is only a matter of months before many home inspectors will have to look for another job to feed their wives and kids anyway. It is now being forecasted that the real estate boom in Canada is finally over, and that home sales will shrink dramatically from coast to coast in the near future.

It comes as no surprise that Bill Mullen - known to be the elephant in the china shop - has been suspended from posting his more often than not self-serving or biassed views on the OAHI Message Board. This opinionated guy will never learn to think first before opening his big mouth.

[hjanssen]

Rudolf,Bill may be arrogant and brash,but no one has done more in Canada,then Bill to promote home inspectors and associations,of course he is not always right,as none of us are.
He does not deserve the treatment he is getting,of course most of you would not know that as most have never put in the time and effort he has.
When you do put in the time and effort,he has,I will certainlly give you credit as well.

[Wand Raymond]

Harry

You have a short memory. I and you and many others have put much time and effort into OAHI. Its not only Bill. Others have been treated in the same manner. Including Rudolf.

I have never ever seen you stand up for anyone, but you sure know how to hide and throw rocks.

When are you going to get the guts to come out and stop being the hypocrite you continue to show yourself to be?

You have repeatedly come here and told us that we were complainers, yet here is the proof to show just how much you complain behind the closed doors or OAHI.

And.. just perhaps Bill is getting in return what he was good at dishing out.

Get a life and find a voice!

[Wand Raymond]

10/2/2011 7:48:13 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Harry Janssen

Jeff,you are correct,they do not realize other groups exist,go figure?

10/3/2011 9:59:09 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Harry Janssen

Wayne,you might as well talk to the wall,same result. No one is listening when members or old timers ask questions,they are so self absorbed with there own importance and roles,mere mortals like you and me and members do not count,every time Iredale posts ,he proves this fact.
May I make a suggestion,you ,me, Bob Johnston, Bill Mullen and other like minded people no longer post or comment,since the board has every thing under control. As you indicated enrollment is down,so lets let them self destruct,I will not affect us old timers any way and at the end of the day,when did any one ask any one of us,what does OAHI stand for or what does it mean,sad but true.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by hjanssen

Thanks Yuri,and I, like Claude will not post any more,since this forum is run by two people who have all the answers and have never contributed a damn thing to advance this profession,God help us all,if and when these two are ever to gain some power and run this profession.
May the two of you find peace in your life and move on.
Over and out

Welcome Back Harry Glad to see you, now how about helping our industry and share some of your knowledge to help all inspectors .
We at NACHI love to see information that helps all.
OAHI is doing nothing for the Canadian Homies and NACHI seems to be where many great Homies come to learn what is happening.

[Yuri Olhovsky]

Originally Posted by rcooke

OAHI is doing nothing for the Canadian Homies and NACHI seems to be where many great Homies come to learn what is happening.

Nothing really happening, Roy. And OAHI is not the milestone for other inspectors. Being 10 years in this business I never had nor will I be doing anything with them.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by yolhovsky

Nothing really happening, Roy. And OAHI is not the milestone for other inspectors. Being 10 years in this business I never had nor will I be doing anything with them.

It is so sad that we Canadian Homies are so split up with only NACHI allowing open comunications .
A few who want to control our industry seem to refuse to trade ideas thoughts and comunication .
All the best... Roy

[hjanssen]

Raymond,I will say this one more time,when you put in the time and effort,Bill Mullen has,than feel free to complain,un till you can claim the same,I really do not care what you think.
You and your side kick are whiners and complainers,when you match the amount of time he has spent promoting the profession,I would gladly like to hear your opinion,as for me hiding behind the OAHI,that is a fallicy,I have be vocal for a long time,and you even hack the site to prove this,so were I am hiding,
If you are so clever and have all the answers,why not start a new group,in which you could be in control,of course you do not have the balls to do that ,as that would mean you would have to do some thing ,other than complain.
Best wishes

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by hjanssen

Raymond,I will say this one more time,when you put in the time and effort,Bill Mullen has,than feel free to complain,un till you can claim the same,I really do not care what you think.
You and your side kick are whiners and complainers,when you match the amount of time he has spent promoting the profession,I would gladly like to hear your opinion,as for me hiding behind the OAHI,that is a fallicy,I have be vocal for a long time,and you even hack the site to prove this,so were I am hiding,
If you are so clever and have all the answers,why not start a new group,in which you could be in control,of course you do not have the balls to do that ,as that would mean you would have to do some thing ,other than complain.
Best wishes

So sad Harry is quick to run down Ray and Roy but Looking I can not find any where Harry has added to this industry in the last 10 years .
Harry you have challenged me to provide what I have done and I posted just some of the things I did . Now how about you showing any thing you have added to help others in the last few years .
Your continuing running down R&R and praising Bill Mullen show ZERO.
You have proven your word is useless and we have ignored your slamming NACHI and its members .
I See your posts on OAHI show you do not have the Balls to stand up to the OAHI CLICK .
You and Claude and Ron still pay your OAHI dues .
This to me shows you are only interested in MONEY so you can sell your classes and products.
So sad Harry You have much knowledge and you refuse to share and help the Newbie's .
Carry on Harry I am sure you have a hard time getting to sleep some nights knowing how you Take from this industry and refuse to give any thing back.
To use one of your Buddies Bill M statements Please do not let the door hit you XXX on the way out . SHAME SHAME SHAME .
Harry you are just loaded with sour grapes ...

I and NACHI will still welcome you with open arms Harry and just maybe some day you will post with out that chip on your shoulder .... Roy
See what Harry said above on post 7

[Wand Raymond]

Harry

You and your cronies are enablers. By renewing you aid and abet the discriminatory practices of OAHI.

You seem to have a hang up with what someone has done for the good of the profession. Yet you ignore the glaring documented embellishments. that your friends have promoted over the years. Those embellishments have for the most part been exposed for what they are, lies.

Your double standards are alive and well you chose sides rather than for the overall good of the members in OAHI.

Its easy as you continually demonstrate to post your irrelevant comments to appease only yourself on a closed forum.

A real leader as you want to be or claim to be would stand up to be counted. Continually whining about how you are not going to say anything more, fold up your soap box, and lay low is not that of a true leader.

But anyway its members like you who perpetrate the continuance of corruptness, and the zealots who run OAHI for their own cash cow. But then again as I pointed out maybe your reluctance to stand up is based more on your business interests rather than the overall well being of OAHI and your friends interests in their business interests.

Your comments, and those of your colleagues you trust back up what I and others have said about OAHI for years, its morally and ethically bankrupt, insolvent financially, and operates with discrimination, bullying, arbitrary decisions based on malice.

Rather then trying to put people down by suggesting they have not done as much for the industry as Bill or YOU, is a put down, because others contributed in their own way in their own time.

Your time has come and gone and you are voiceless and just another teet for the clique to nourish their egos, wallets and dictates on the unwashed members of OAHI.

Oh and Harry please explain to me how the title RHI has value as Wayne Christopher pointed out when he tried to explain why he is still a member?

Thanks Harry, its always enlightening to dialogue with you.

Take care.

[Wand Raymond]

10/5/2011 10:32:10 PM
A Veteran's Suspension
Kirk Iredale

Nice story Bob.
I repeat ONLY voting members had a potential increase if they did not attend or send in their proxy.

Now if by chance a student/applicant was sent a renewal package with a $50.00 increase and they read their package or maybe all the emails you guys complained about getting, don't you think if they are so hard up for money as you say they are that they would pick up the phone, call the office and say "hey I am just a student/applicant, how come I have a $50.00 increase?"

And if by some chance it is still true now, I hope you told them to call the office and get it straightened out right away instead of printing the crap you have here!

Kirk Iredale, RHI

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As a director of OAHI surely Mr. Iredale would be aware that the office staff of OAHI are irresponsive to members inquiries! That is a well known fact of which he is well aware of. Why would any member take the time or effort to query the office knowing full well of the attitude of the office staff and the Registrar towards the membership.

I believe the other members of OAHI knowing Mr. Iredales attitude and part of the clique running OAHI that non voting members were taxed. Its just another attempt for OAHI to pump the members for more money in order to keep the lights on.

Oh and by the way, OAHI has no right to remove any members name from the search function particularly in light of the fact the member suspended had no right to a hearing, nor an appeal, and was based solely on punishment due to malice.

[KEVIN WOOD]

You did a very good job of explaining that Raymond and we at Nachi certainly do appreciate your dedication to get the story straight about OAHI and the problems they have caused. This does not go unnoticed by the veterans trying to struggle on the HI recognition board.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by kwood

You did a very good job of explaining that Raymond and we at Nachi certainly do appreciate your dedication to get the story straight about OAHI and the problems they have caused. This does not go unnoticed by the veterans trying to struggle on the HI recognition board.

We are fortunate to have Raymond share his wisdom and Knowledge to help all Hommies ... Roy