OAHI Out Of Control - Bylaws Breached - Documented Proof

[bjones1]

Raymond....

With greatest respect and after following your post's here and elsewhere for many years, I write this missive to inform you that I am now bestowing upon you the title of " Don " as in Don Quiote.

[rwand1]

Brian

Thats a good one! Thanks for the laugh!

How about; no guts, no glory?

I do not stand alone.

Cheers,

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bjones1

Raymond....

With greatest respect and after following your post's here and elsewhere for many years, I write this missive to inform you that I am now bestowing upon you the title of " Don " as in Don Quiote.

Brian Not knowing if you have ever been a member of OAHI I wonder how you can say this .
This sort of apathy attitude is what is wrong in many places in this world .
Then we have those who stand up for fair play and proper treatment for all then they get ridiculed by those who care less about these wrong doings.
You left NACHI and now you tend to make fun of those who care about this industry.
You tried to influence what I do and say .
I expect you did mean (Don Quixote, ) not (Don Quiote )
... Cookie


Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means "attacking imaginary enemies." The word “tilt,” here, comes from jousting. This idiomatic phrase originated in the novel Don Quixote, and is often used today in reference to persistent engagement in a futile activity. At one point in the novel, Don Quixote fights windmills that he imagines to be giants. Quixote sees the windmill blades as the giant's arms, for instance. Here is the relevant portion of the novel:

[gmortensen]

Mr. Wand, first, I am not aware of why I have received this email. Next, from what little of this email I have made time to read, you should read the OAHI act. Specifically 6.
OAHI BOD may pass by-laws.

The rest of this, I do not have time to be bothered with and will not read further communications from Mr. Wand.

You would think more concern than this might be taken in reply to this to at least appear professional.

[Bill Mullen]

As a long-standing proud RHI member of CAHPI Ontario, I want to just make a couple of things clear without taking sides right now.

1) I think Raymond's issues are with certain individuals on the BOD, the BOE, the DPPC and the Past Presidents' Council. Unless I am mistaken, he has no issues with the many good CAHPI Ontario members. (except complacency) Those whom he is blaming make up less than 2% of the CAHPI Ontario membership.

2) All organizations have good and bad members. Unfortunately, sometimes the bad members in some organizations gain and wield too much control.

3) CAHPI Ontario the association and its good members should not be painted with the same brush as those who have and allegedly are misusing their positions.

4) Very few people get out of bed in the morning and immediately start trying to think of ways to attack or damage other people.

5) There are two or three sides to every story.

I mean no disrespect to Raymond or anyone else. All I ask is that everyone should keep an open mind and not conclude that an entire association is evil because of the actions of a few.

Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

This is the Chairman of the BOE/AR admitting that he holds his duties in disregard.

Directors have a duty to comply with the organization’s governing documents, and to ensure that staff and committees of the organization do as well.

If you have any real or perceived conflict of interest, declare it when the issue first arises, and do not vote, participate in or influence the decision-making process. Have your disclosure recorded in the meeting minutes.

Well I guess its safe to say at least one person has a conflict of interest and put it in writing, the Chair himself!

[rwand1]

Hi Bill,

I think the only evil doers are those who have abused their positions of trust. Individual members do not hold positions of trust and I hold no grievance or malice towards those members either in CAHPI or OAHI.

Thanks for bringing that matter up.

Cheers,

[rwand1]

Bill btw...I think your math is off again, its more like .5% not 2%

[rwand1]

I rec'd word back from the Chair Mr. Bennett stating that the bylaws were revised and adopted at the 2006 AGM Feb 25 introducings the requirement they are stating I need to complete.

I did some further checking and this is what the minutes from the AGM state:

7. By-Law Motions and Resolutions
Pres. Meipoom informed members present that the BOD had withdrawn the review and vote on the By-law Motions and Resolutions for that evening. He cited time constraints and delays in publishing as the reasons
why voting members did not have the allowable 30 days, as per OAHI By-laws, to review the documents before they were voted on. Therefore, they were withdrawn. There was no discussion on this matter.

Further if the bylaws were changed at the AGM the current version 05/05 is still being distributed to the members!

[rwand1]

Andrew Bennett wrote:

Actually Raymond, I attended the last AGM and I am aware of the bylaw updates that were passed by the membership. You have the proposal if you were a member in good standing so you should be well aware of them too.
The BOE/AR, needs only 3 members as you should know. I am not aware of every person reviewed.

Regards,


--
Andrew Bennett RHI A.Sc.T. M.A.A.T.O.
Bennett Building Consultants Ltd.

We do Inspections and Investigations
Our Business Phone Number Is (416) 751-0682, email abinspect@ca.inter.net

If you are pleased with our services, please tell your friends. If you are not satisfied with our services, please inform us.

Raymond wrote in reply to above:
Firstly I do have a copy of the proposed by law updates, but do not have a copy of the revised bylaws other than those posted on the CAFE board version 05/05. Can you send me a copy of the revised bylaws as you state they have been changed and ratified by the members since the 05/05 version?

Regardless no where in the proposed bylaw changes tabled at the 2006 AGM do the bylaws state that Retired members are beholden to the requests you and your committee are seeking.

If you wish to dispute these facts I suggest that you will have no reservations or concerns in me filing an appeal as afforded in the bylaws


If as Chairman of the BOR/AR you state and you are not aware of every person reviewed as you claim, then you should know about what actions and decisions are being made by your committee members. If you are not aware of the persons being reviewed who is?

Thank you.

Raymond Wand

[rwand1]

Andrew Bennett replied:

Raymond I am not the Chair. Never have been.
No, I don’t have bylaws to send out. They were ratified earlier this year though so please consider them as the bylaws. There were no changes that I recall.

Why you need to file an appeal is up to you. As a capable person, you should do as the rest of the association does and deal with the BOD. In my opinion an appeal is a last resort, not something to utilize as some sort of a tool and frankly, I expect that the courts will see any such appeal as such.

Unless of course, you have made attempts to resolve this within the org. then I would see this matter differently.

Its far too easy to start some silly lawsuit over nothing when a professional should deal with their fellow professionals. If you feel so strongly about something, then write to them and state why. I have with success in the past and will continue to with any issues I may have.

It has worked with regard to E & O. It has worked with regard to when fees are due. And I am sure other examples I am not aware of as well.

Regards,

Andrew

[rwand1]

I have taken the time to post Mr. Bennetts email reply to the email recipeints listed below. It appears Mr. Bennett has a distorted view of his authority and that of the bylaws.

Incidentally I have had it confirmed by at least one Director of Oahi and a couple of other senior members that no revised bylaws exist, nor have revised bylaw been issued since the last revision of 05/05. Mr. Bennett seems unable to produce what he believes exist.

Subject: Re: Academic Assessment - Re-instatement from Retired Member to Registered Home Inspector
(RHI)
From: Raymond <rwand@rogers.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:41:12 -0500
To: "V.P. Glen Gogal" <g.gogal@sympatico.ca>, Treasurer Phillip Bottriel <mail@propertyinspection.ca>,
President Tom Lloyd <dakotaman@sympatico.ca>, Wendy Gelman OAHI Registrar <oahi@oahi.com>,
Chief Operating Officer <aubreyleblanc@rogers.com>, Director Brian Harris <qhis@rogers.com>, Director
Gerry Quackenbush <Gerry@GTAinspections.com>, Secretary David Faux <dfaux@dsgi.on.ca>, OAHI
Legal Counsel Ronald Segal <rsegal@blumbergs.ca>, Director Wayne Christopher
<wayne@christopherhomeinspection.com>, Director Doug Azar <azarvett@magma.ca>, Director Alrek
Meipoom <info@keystoneinspections.ca>, Chair BOE Andrew Bennett <abinspect@ca.inter.net>,
Committee member BOE Terry Carson <info@guardianhomeinspectors.com>, Committee member BOE
Andrew Dixon <yourhomeinspector@rogers.com>, Committee member BOE Andrew Radomski
<mailto:andrew.radomski@bellnet.ca>, Raymond <rwand@rogers.com>, Pierre Thibodeau
<pierre.thibodeau@bellnet.ca>, Graham Clarke <graham@carsondunlop.com>, Robin Green
<cbis.rgreen@sympatico.ca>, Harry Janssen <inspect@accuratehome.com>, Jeff Clarke
<info@bakerstreet-hi.ca>, Alan Carson <carson@carsondunlop.com>, Henry Blumberg
<henry@blumbergs.ca>, Mark Blumberg <mark@blumbergs.ca>

Andrew thank you for the most recent email below. I have taken the opportunity to forward this onto the recipients because I think you and your committee members have grossly overstepped their authority and cannot substantiate your understanding of the bylaws and Pr 158.

Oh and by the way if you are not the chair who is, and where can a copy of the new improved bylaws be found?

Thank you.

Raymond Wand RHI No. 00029

Raymond I am not the Chair. Never have been.
No, I don’t have bylaws to send out. They were ratified earlier this year though so please consider them as the bylaws. There were no changes that I recall.

Why you need to file an appeal is up to you. As a capable person, you should do as the rest of the association does and deal with the BOD. In my opinion an appeal is a last resort, not something to utilize as some sort of a tool and frankly, I expect that the courts will see any such appeal as such.

Unless of course, you have made attempts to resolve this within the org. then I would see this matter differently.

Its far too easy to start some silly lawsuit over nothing when a professional should deal with their fellow professionals. If you feel so strongly about something, then write to them and state why. I have with success in the past and will continue to with any issues I may have.

It has worked with regard to E & O. It has worked with regard to when fees are due. And I am sure other examples I am not aware of as well.

Regards,
Andrew

[rwand1]

From the Ontario Inspector News Letter dated Feb 2006.

Proposed OAHI By-Law Revisions

Director Andrew Bennett reviewed the proposed OAHI by-law revisions that will be voted on for approval by Associate and RHI members. The BOD devoted a significant amount of time reviewing the proposed revisions. Some of the proposed revisions include “housekeeping functions” such as
changing of the current by-law numbering system, and capitalization of words (i.e., director to Director). Other proposed revisions concern the technical aspects of the by-laws, such as member’s obligations and requirements in areas of education and codes of conduct.

The proposed revisions to By-law Article 33, the OAHI merger with the Provincial Association of Certified Home Inspectors (PACHI), essentially “closed the book” on PACHI-OAHI merger process, whereby former PACHI members merged with and became members of the OAHI. Notwithstanding the current set of proposed revisions, the BOD concluded by agreeing that the Bylaws will still require a more extensive review, which will take place over the course of 2006.

[rwand1]

Another enlightening post from Mr. Bennett. Now he states the bylaws which he claimed earlier as being revised are in fact the same as version 05/05. I think Mr. Bennett is having a difficult time comprehending and expressing truthful information.

Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Academic Assessment - Re-instatement from Retired Member to Registered Home Inspector (RHI)

From: Raymond <rwand@rogers.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:51:45 -0500
To: Andrew Bennett <abinspect@ca.inter.net>
CC: "V.P. Glen Gogal" <g.gogal@sympatico.ca>, Treasurer Phillip Bottriel <mail@propertyinspection.ca>,
President Tom Lloyd <dakotaman@sympatico.ca>, Wendy Gelman OAHI Registrar <oahi@oahi.com>,
Chief Operating Officer <aubreyleblanc@rogers.com>, Director Brian Harris <qhis@rogers.com>, Director Gerry Quackenbush <Gerry@GTAinspections.com>, Secretary David Faux <dfaux@dsgi.on.ca>, OAHI Legal Counsel Ronald Segal <rsegal@blumbergs.ca>, Director Wayne Christopher <wayne@christopherhomeinspection.com>, Director Doug Azar <azarvett@magma.ca>, Director Alrek Meipoom <info@keystoneinspections.ca>, Committee member BOE Terry Carson <info@guardianhomeinspectors.com>, Committee member BOE Andrew Dixon <yourhomeinspector@rogers.com>, Pierre Thibodeau <pierre.thibodeau@bellnet.ca>, Graham Clarke <graham@carsondunlop.com>, Robin Green <cbis.rgreen@sympatico.ca>, Harry Janssen <inspect@accuratehome.com>, Jeff Clarke <info@bakerstreet-hi.ca>, Alan Carson <carson@carsondunlop.com>, Henry Blumberg <henry@blumbergs.ca>, Mark Blumberg <mark@blumbergs.ca>, Andrew Radomski <andrew.radomski@bellnet.ca>

Andrew Bennett wrote:
Raymond, I offered my personal opinion. Here is another of my personal opinions. Its time for you to grow up.

In case there was any confusion, I was the chair of the Bylaw committee, not the BOE or BOR/AR (whatever that is, I don’t know). I have never had access to any OAHI appeals info. No need for it as I have only acted to improve the bylaws.

As I stated before, you have a copy of the bylaws. They are the before version but the after is the same.
To the BOD. If any claim comes in, apply for a Summary Judgement.

Good night. My last words on this subject.

Andrew



My reply to the above email:

Andrew

You may not be the Chair of the BOE/AR but you have admitted to being a member. Your excuses ring hollow on your abilities to explain your participation with regard to the BOE.

Strange you are contradicting yourself with regard to the bylaws, now you state the bylaws version 05/05 are the current version. If the current version is the version you are relying on they still do not support the requirement your committee has requested of me.

As you advising the Association as how to handle any legal suits that is apprehensible considering you have eagerly shown your ignorance of your authority and understanding of the bylaws.

This is not my last word on the subject and I would advise you to govern yourself accordingly.

Your ego seems to be bigger than you knowledge of due diligence and standard of care.

You should also be aware this series of email has been placed on a public website in order that OAHI members and the public can see how OAHI conducts its internal affairs.

Raymond Wand RHI. No. 00029

[rwand1]

I can't rationalize or fathom why Mr. Bennett would find it necessary to be misleading, and not be able to produce documents. Nor why he would be hesitant to say who the Chair of the BOE/AR is. I am beginning to think a few individuals are making decisions without full knowledge of the rest of the committe. As President of AATO I would have expected Mr. Bennett to have a higher stand of care. I wonder how he treats the members of AATO with the same disdain and general lack of leadership skills.

Like so many things in OAHI there is a concerted effort to lie, withold info, and generally prosecute those not in step with their view rather than what the bylaws dictate.