Our new Prime Minister?

[George A. H. Luck]

Bumbling? I'll bet that the Liberal big brains are wishing that their leader bumbled like that! In the face of a liberal press, the lies of opposing parties and a world plunged into what ( if it has not already) will become a recession, that 'failure', Harper increased the number of seats for his party. It looks like Canada continues it's evolution toward the political 'right'.

[Michael Larson]

Congratulations Canada.

May your conservative march continue.

[Tyler Knelsen]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Congratulations Canada.

May your conservative march continue.

Indeed.

I'm glad that Canada is finally waking up and moving to the right. Unfortunately, it's sad that while we're moving to the right, the United States seems to be on its way to electing a dangerous, radical communist named Barack Obama.

If only the GOP had nominated a real Republican like Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee, they wouldn't be in the mess they're in.

[relliott]

Ooops..wrong thread.

Thought this was about Nancy Pelosi

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gluck

Bumbling? I'll bet that the Liberal big brains are wishing that their leader bumbled like that! In the face of a liberal press, the lies of opposing parties and a world plunged into what ( if it has not already) will become a recession, that 'failure', Harper increased the number of seats for his party. It looks like Canada continues it's evolution toward the political 'right'.

George:

What was the cost of Harper's attempted "power grab" in defiance of his own promise/law of no elections until fall 2009?

I've heard up to $300 million........what a great way to spend our money......3 elections in 4 years!!!

With a minority, he may be ready to do it again within 18 months because he can't see a way to get along with the other parties. His excuse for the election that "parliament wasn't working" was the biggest piece of crap foisted on the Canadian public in years!!! Cost way more than the monies involved in the Liberals Quebec scandal!!

[cboyd]

News flash - George, I just heard that Jack is moving to Lansdowne and running for mayor
Did hear Mr. Duceppe say he prevented a Conservative majority? Not really, he helped prevent another thieving, out of control, tax 'em and tax 'em again Liberal government. For the first time ever I found the Bloc semi useful.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by cboyd

News flash - George, I just heard that Jack is moving to Lansdowne and running for mayor
Did hear Mr. Duceppe say he prevented a Conservative majority? Not really, he helped prevent another thieving, out of control, tax 'em and tax 'em again Liberal government. For the first time ever I found the Bloc semi useful.

Take the narrow focused blinders off......The Liberals never were really a threat in this election!!

The Bloc pretty well maintained the seats they already had and probably prevented Harper's ill-concieved power grab against his own promises! Can you trust this man.....I don't think so and Quebecers thought similarly. They were not bought by his earlier patronizing "nation" comments......especially from a (regressive) Conservative (and not Progressive Conservative) from of all places.......Alberta.....the land of the former Alliance.....errr, no REFORM....... party which hijacked the Progressive Conservative party.

So the Bloc were not seen by yourself as useful in the 2006 election when the Liberals were closer to the Conservatives than now........odd thinking!!



Lastly: A tax is a fine for doing well.
Then, do you believe we should have no taxes?

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

So Brian I take it you are happy that a provincial party (Bloc) that did not run a single candidate out side Quebec got 48 seats with 10% of the vote and the Greens that ran a candidate in every riding all across the country did not get a single seat with 7% of the vote.
The foundation of democracy based on representation by population has been hijacked by partisan politics and I believe that things need to change but I'm not holding my breath.

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

If the seats were awarded by the percentage of the voter the following would the

Party ..............Seats won.......... Percentage of vote....... Seats by %Of total votes
Conservatives .....142 .................37.7............................ 116
Liberals ................79 ..................26.3 .............................81
Bloc .....................48................... 10.1 ............................31
NDP ......................37 ....................18 .............................55
Greens ...................0 .....................6.7 ...........................20
Independent ...........2 ......................0.7........................... 2

The numbers may have change slightly due to close votes and recounts but you get the general idea.

[Douglas Cossar]

Well............. cookie gave me a reddie cause he thinks Dione would make a better PM than me................. well he is right BUT neither one of us is the PM

I didn't want to be the PM anyway

Dion says he was elected as the leader of the opposition

I don't want to be that either...........

so there Roy

[Douglas Cossar]

Originally Posted by dcossar

Well............. cookie gave me a reddie cause he thinks Dione would make a better PM than me................. well he is right BUT neither one of us is the PM

I didn't want to be the PM anyway

Dion says he was elected as the leader of the opposition

I don't want to be that either...........

so there Roy

Got a message from our old friend Roy

He says it wasn't him, soooo who ever you are the message remains the same. Just change the name as required.

Cheers

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by vmitchinson

If the seats were awarded by the percentage of the voter the following would the

Party ..............Seats won.......... Percentage of vote....... Seats by %Of total votes
Conservatives .....142 .................37.7............................ 116
Liberals ................79 ..................26.3 .............................81
Bloc .....................48................... 10.1 ............................31
NDP ......................37 ....................18 .............................55
Greens ...................0 .....................6.7 ...........................20
Independent ...........2 ......................0.7........................... 2

The numbers may have change slightly due to close votes and recounts but you get the general idea.

That makes it quite clear....excepting the Bloc and Independents as we don't know their political leanings, 156 left of center MP's would be in place versus the right wing 116 (regressive) Conservatives....proving as we already know: Canadians as a group are a liberal people.....the voting system needs to be changed. I would go for proportional representation!!

Even if you add the 33 Bloc and Independent MP's to the Conservatives, the majority would be for the left wingers!!

[cboyd]

I agree Brian, Liberals were not a threat in this election. They are only a threat when elected.I always thought Liberals considered themselves "center" which is truly what we should be in Canada, I don't even mind a few left wing ideas, some of them make a ittle sense, and yes I think we should pay our taxes. Higher income means higher % tax rate, is that not a type of fine?
I don't think anyone who is voted in could keep his promises 100%, too many things can go wrong, I have never voted on promises, just past performance and what performance has done for me, my family and my businesses and of course the economy as a whole. All of those mentioned just seem to work more efficiently and profitable when we have conservative governments. In my opinion Mr. Harper is the most centered prime minister we have had since I started voting (30 years) I know, he had to with a minority. Question Brian, if Mr. Dion really in his heart, thought that Mr. Harper was running Canada into the ground, and doing such a horrible job,would he have not called the election 2 years ago or showed up and voted no on the very first confidence vote? If he really cared for Canada and I believe he does, despite the possibility of his own demise as leader and losing would he not have called the election a long time ago? You know, take one for country. You have to admit, Liberals are not good in opposition, and they don't do well in a minority because of the fear of an election. Mr. Harper was ready to go from day one and would step aside if he lost this time. I think that is a true leader.

[Tyler Knelsen]

Originally Posted by vmitchinson

Party ..............Seats won.......... Percentage of vote....... Seats by %Of total votes
Conservatives .....142 .................37.7............................ 116
Liberals ................79 ..................26.3 .............................81
Bloc .....................48................... 10.1 ............................31
NDP ......................37 ....................18 .............................55
Greens ...................0 .....................6.7 ...........................20
Independent ...........2 ......................0.7........................... 2

Twenty-six fewer Conservatives, 2 more socialists, 17 less separatists, 18 more communists, and 20 environmentalists. That sounds like a recipe for disaster (except for the 17 less separatists which would be good). I'm glad things turned out the way they did.

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Canadians as a group are a liberal people

Speak for yourself.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by cboyd

I agree Brian, Liberals were not a threat in this election. They are only a threat when elected.I always thought Liberals considered themselves "center" which is truly what we should be in Canada, I don't even mind a few left wing ideas, some of them make a ittle sense, and yes I think we should pay our taxes. Higher income means higher % tax rate, is that not a type of fine?
I don't think anyone who is voted in could keep his promises 100%, too many things can go wrong, I have never voted on promises, just past performance and what performance has done for me, my family and my businesses and of course the economy as a whole. All of those mentioned just seem to work more efficiently and profitable when we have conservative governments. In my opinion Mr. Harper is the most centered prime minister we have had since I started voting (30 years) I know, he had to with a minority. Question Brian, if Mr. Dion really in his heart, thought that Mr. Harper was running Canada into the ground, and doing such a horrible job,would he have not called the election 2 years ago or showed up and voted no on the very first confidence vote? If he really cared for Canada and I believe he does, despite the possibility of his own demise as leader and losing would he not have called the election a long time ago? You know, take one for country. You have to admit, Liberals are not good in opposition, and they don't do well in a minority because of the fear of an election. Mr. Harper was ready to go from day one and would step aside if he lost this time. I think that is a true leader.

I think Dion knew from DAY 1 that his leadership was in danger. It was a bit strange that he was chosen in the first place......sort of unexpected! The Liberals had a track record of a Quebec leader then an English leader but that changed with Dion.

IMO, he knew he could not win an election especially in his early days and would definitely not want to be seen as the cause of a money sucking election that he lost......that was the fastest way to end his leadership which was not that solidly supported!! His hands were tied so he had to vote with the minority government. Harper also had to be careful with not triggering an election by forcing a vote of confidence.....so his legislation was not that radical.

Recently, Harper had little concern with the cost of the premature election and his attempted power grab!! He now becomes a liar for breaking his own promise.......don't trust this man!! Does anyone have the cost of this election yet?? Blame it on him.

Hell, he can't even get along with other conservatives due to his dictatorial ruling tactics..........
("I wasn't asked to leave the caucus. I was ejected," Bill Casey said in response to a question that framed his ouster as a request. "There was no asking about it.") Did you see the majority that longterm PC MP Casey got as an independent in northern NS. (69.01 % of the vote; except for 4 years, this riding has been Conservative since 1968 but now is Independent!!) He probably could of won in NFLD but......Harper had to have HIS way!!

Let's call it as it is.....Harper failed.....plain and simple. He wanted power, misjudged the call, cost us a lot of $$$, doesn't have a majority.....so how does that improve things??? A lot of people are pi$$ed!!!