Ozone Training

[Mike G. Howard, CMI]

For those of you that may be interested in adding to your income, we are running an Ozone Shock training course in Ontario on November 7th. This is a great way to introduce yourself to realtors as ozone has the ability to eliminate odours from their hard to sell properties.
www.O3Canada.com

[Scott May]

Hey Mike, maybe you should explain a bit about how long the course is, where,and a bit about the active ingredient that is used in the process. The website claims that it can help eradicate mold....if this is possible I think the more input that you give us ...the more interest that you may create.
Start up fees ? an estimate would be good although there were many machines to choose from so one high and one low price would be a good starting point..this before anyone dishes out $975.00 for certification.

[Wand Raymond]

http://www.nachi.org/ozone-generator-hazards.htm
http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/indoo...ct_sheet-a.pdf
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/IAQ/...oneDevices.pdf

And those links are only the tip of the iceberg with regard to ozone dangers.

[Mike G. Howard, CMI]

Hey Scott. Mold is a tricky thing. There's a lot of false claims on the internet about ozone's ability to completely eradicate mold. There's even a guy on Nachi TV that claims his process is guaranteed to kill mold. Ozone disrupts molds ability to reproduce. Our course explains how to stop mold in it's tracks, but it doesn't remove dead spores and it doesn't do a thing if the moisture problem isn't solved. That being said, ozone is the perfect solution to LOTS of different problems from smelly sports gear to cigarette smoke. Start-up costs are extrememly low compared to other businesses. The largest machine we sell will treat a 2500 sq/ft house and costs $2135. But if you're interested in say doing cars, then you can begin with a machine that only cost $490. At over $100 to treat 1 car, it doesn't take long to recoup your costs.
We sell the best equipment available on the market. I comes with a 6 year warranty and it has a proven output. Other machines sell for less money and claim higher outputs, but I've had just about all of them tested and they are well below what they claim. In some cases they have put out only 2% of the claimed amount.
Trust me when I say the course is worth the money. Some Ozone franchises have a $75,000 initial buy in, with limited territories.

[Scott May]

Thanks Mike for the answers.

Ray excellent choice of reading material on ozone! Since there has been a drastic increase in COPD it sounds like this substance/procedure that could make you liable if pressed!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Ray I too did a search and from what I see it scares me big time ... Roy

[KEVIN WOOD]

THE NOSE RECEPTORS ARE HIT SO YOU CANNOT SMELL!
Dumb Idea to introduce this product into Home Inspection.
Dead spores are still floating around in the home that become airborn.
You will get sued if you say you are following the S520. for removal of mold or killing the mold.
S520 provides a philosophical shift away from setting numerical mold contamination action levels. Instead, it establishes mold contamination definitions, descriptions and conditions (1, 2, 3), and general guidance, which, when properly applied, can assist remediators and others in determining criteria that trigger remediation activities or confirm remediation success.
Ozone up high is needed so we don't fry.
Ozone down low will kill you slow.

[Wand Raymond]

Strangely, last night I rec'd a call from a good friend. He started by asking me what I knew about ozone to kill mould. Turns out my friend has two homes with mildew odour and his Realtor friends suggested he use ozone. The plan was to vacate the house for three days while ozone was generated to super high levels.

I tried to explained to him the issues with ozone. I also informed him the treatment was just that, and not addressing the cause - water issues.

[Mike G. Howard, CMI]

This is why all of you guys need to take some additional training and not believe everything spewed out on the internet. Ozone does have some hazzards and that's why you need to educate yourselves as to how to use it properly and safely. No where in my training do I say that ozone will eliminate mold spores from the home and I do not advocate the use of it as a fix to a mold problem. Ray, you seem to have a negative spin on everything that's posted here. Why don't you attend the course? Learn the truths before telling everyone what you think you know.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by mhoward1

This is why all of you guys need to take some additional training and not believe everything spewed out on the internet. Ozone does have some hazzards and that's why you need to educate yourselves as to how to use it properly and safely. No where in my training do I say that ozone will eliminate mold spores from the home and I do not advocate the use of it as a fix to a mold problem. Ray, you seem to have a negative spin on everything that's posted here. Why don't you attend the course? Learn the truths before telling everyone what you think you know.

Thanks Mike still think I will pass and I also feel others should look close before getting involved... Roy

[Mike G. Howard, CMI]

That's why we train Roy. To educate everyone as to how ozone works. The articles that Ray has posted deal with IN HOME generators that run continuosly. I teach my classes why these devices are extremely dangerous and should not be used. I suggest that before you condemn ozone and it's many benefits, you educate yourself. If there's one thing I can't stand is a closed mind.

[Wand Raymond]

This is why all of you guys need to take some additional training and not believe everything spewed out on the internet.

Training on what is documented to be a health hazard by better authorities?

No where in my training do I say that ozone will eliminate mold spores from the home and I do not advocate the use of it as a fix to a mold problem.

Never said you did.

Ray, you seem to have a negative spin on everything that's posted here. Why don't you attend the course? Learn the truths before telling everyone what you think you know.

I am not here marketing like you are. You have a stake in selling and marketing your biz.. Even stranger the association (Nachi) you belong to has found it necessary to write a public document as to the perils of ozone. Big difference. Why not blame them for the negative opinions?

I suggest you get a new gun sight, your current sight is askew.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/house...urs-eng.php#a1

What is Health Canada's warning to consumers?
Health Canada is warning consumers not to use an ozone generator in their homes

Does ozone kill germs?

To be effective as a germicide, the concentration of ozone must be far greater than any human could tolerate. A study by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency indicated that ozone was not effective in killing airborne moulds and fungi, even at concentrations as high as 6 to 9 ppm.

How are devices regulated under the Pest Control Products Act?

The Pest Control Products Act requires that manufacturers of devices making biocidal claims (e.g., destroys bacteria, prevents the growth of mould), or that have a biocidal use or purpose, prove that those devices are safe and efficacious before they are marketed in Canada. No applications for registration of air cleaners that intentionally generate ozone have been made to the Pest Management Regulatory Agency (PMRA) to date.
What regulations cover ozone generators?

Both the Food and Drugs Act (FDA) and the Pest Control Products Act (PCPA) cover ozone generators. The claimed purpose or representation, as well as where and how the device is used determines which regulations apply. In order to avoid being subject to regulation under the Food and Drugs Act and/or the Pest Control Products Act, ozone generators continue to be marketed in Canada as "air cleaners" or "pollution control devices" without making medical or biocidal claims or being marked for medical or biocidal purpose or use.

[Mike G. Howard, CMI]

That's correct Roy. There's a section in my training manual that has this info almost word for word. What's your point? I'm not marketing this training to "Clean Air". Health Canada is concerned with devices like the Sharper Image Ionic Breeze. Their warnings do not apply to trained individuals using commercial units.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Thanks Mike .
I still see no advantage to these .... Roy