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[rwand1]

Nice. I guess P2P is taking its lead from OAHI who did their own little draw in December for a trip for four to Caribean Island.

So much for a professional self regulating home inspection association.


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[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Four inspectors 3 are NACHI members and one is an OAHI member
This sure does not look good for the Canadian leader of P2P who is also an OAHI director and an CAHPI director.
Looks bad for the director ( Trevor Welby-Soloman ) of OAHI/CAHPI to have 75% of his inspectors not members of his association.
It also looks bad for
Andrew Radomski, He sits on many of OAHI committess and he has hired three NACHI Members

Roy Cooke sr A Happy NACHI Member

[rwand1]

The notice was sent via email and was sent to Realtors offices. When you go to their website their is no mention of the Draw. As I remember as Chair of the DPPC our committee ruled that draws specifically directed to Realtors was a no no, and the draw had to be open to all, including the public.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Typical why would Trevor start to follow the rules now he has ignored them in the past.
OAHI still does not follow their rules and does not set a good example for the membership.
Been there seen it before.

Roy Cooke sr A Happy NACHI Member

[rwand1]

Just another example of special interests and special status within OAHI and CAHPI. Just look who has positioned themselves within the organization.

These are the same people who will be overseeing certification, considering the gravity of this ad, it makes you wonder about special interest and fairness.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[wjung]

Ray,
it makes me wonder more about their ethics.
Wolf

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

I'm giving serious consideration about joining http://www.independentinspectors.org/ where marketing to realtors is forbidden, and this sort of promotion is also forbidden. Marketing to realtors is a loosing proposition in the long run.

What experience have you had with IHINA?
What is your experience or opinion of this philosophy?

[rwand1]

Vern

Belonging to Independent inspectors is only as good if everyone else joins. Joining IHINA in my opinion will not prevent your competition from soliciting Realtors. Lets face it there are many fine Realtors who are not afraid of recommending good inspectors.
You don't have to join not to solicit Realtors. But you could disclose that you don't solicit them for work just as I state on my website. Soliciting is different then receiving referrals from agents in my opinion.

I do have serious concerns about this type of activity because of P2P presidents' association with CAHPI and OAHI and the inspectors who is promoting this.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[rwand1]

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Greg Bell]

They have been doing this in the states for a long time. Kind of sad isn't it? I personally feel that any NACHI members involved should be reported to the ESOP Committee.

[rwand1]

Greg

You don't know half the story about the way P2P conducts it self. I would report them to OAHI but I know where that will go. OAHI itself has conducted a draw. Unfortunately some in OAHI saw nothing wrong with that draw either. Same people who tell you NACHI is inferior. Look who's calling the kettle black.

It is a black eye on our industry when some cheapen the professionalism. The fact that some individuals sit on a National Initiative and permit this sort of activity is very disheartening.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[rwand1]

http://www.oahi.com/content/default....committees.asp

What is even more of a concern the individual who sent out this Draw Notice is also a member of the Discipline Professional Practices Committee (DPPC) along with Education Committee, Admissions Review.

How can anyone be assured of independence and fairness within OAHI when these sort of conflicts are allowed. This person sits in judgement of others. Seems someones judgement and positions maybe in conflict with one another.

I really think OAHI and CAHPI should be audited. No one can assure objectivity, and independence and assure accountability.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

http://www.oahi.com/content/default....committees.asp

What is even more of a concern the individual who sent out this Draw Notice is also a member of the Discipline Professional Practices Committee (DPPC) along with Education Committee, Admissions Review.

How can anyone be assured of independence and fairness within OAHI when these sort of conflicts are allowed. This person sits in judgement of others. Seems someones judgement and positions maybe in conflict with one another.

I really think OAHI and CAHPI should be audited. No one can assure objectivity, and independence and assure accountability.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

There is not much use in sending in a complaint OAHI is two years behind in catching up on previous complaints.
This makes me wonder how they ever expect to spend the time and effort testing inspectors for the National Certification when they can not even get last years minutes out or the fincial statement.
Please do not ask them questions they do not reply.

Roy Cooke sr .. R.H.I.

A Happy NACHI Member

[rwand1]

If you know how to sweep dirt under a rug there is a place for you in the organization. oops:

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[George A. H. Luck]

I don't know about you guys but I think that the situation in Canada and especially in Ontario is getting so out of hand that it is time for N.A.C.H.I. to call a press confrence with Nick in attendance with the objective of shining the light of truth on several organizations and their opperations.

It is all well and fine to trumpet N.A.C.H.I as being the biggest, best and fastest growing org. in Canada ( and the world) but we need some organized representation on the National front and we need it now. Otherwise, Roy and Ray's ( and mine as well as many other's) worst nightmares will come true.