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Old 10/4/06, 6:01 PM
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Nick,

You are correct. OAHI is registered as a non-profit body, and members have no share capital. In the end the reason OAHI is in the state it is is because it reports to itself. It has no external review by any government. This is why it gets away with what it does. However as we all know just because it reports to itself it does not mean it is not answerable for foibles done through bad governance, standard of care, et cetera. It is only harming itself in its attitudes and actions, and is responsible for its own demise. It must also prove it has juridiction under the by-laws to enact what it feels is necessary. It does not mean their actions have any weight in light of the fact the by-laws do not permit them to do what they can think they can or get away with, but the buck in the end stops with the courts because PR 158 permits that right to petition the courts.

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Old 10/4/06, 6:09 PM
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If it is any consolation... NACHI wants you. You are always welcome here.



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Thanks, I knew that, but its nice to hear it again!

Everybody loves Raymond. ... well not everyone.

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Old 10/5/06, 12:21 PM
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Well my access to the OAHI CAFE was short lived.

After just coming off a 90 day suspension, which OAHI never replied to I have now been suspended again. Seemingly for asking the wrong questions, pointing out the by-laws, or because I have posted material from the OAHI site, which others are permitted to do and have, both by members and the BOD.

OAHI Knowledge Cafe

Welcome to the Knowledge Cafe.
Raymond.Wand Your Forum Access has been suspended until 11/4/2006

Seeing as OAHI has no intention of following the rules and the by-laws and seeing as the Chair of the DPPC has made unwarranted, unfounded, erroneous statements in support of his authority I am forced to defend myself by the only means available to me.

To date, I have not had the courtesy of a reply to my filed APPEAL. Nor have I ever rec'd a reply with my concerns about earlier suspensions, contrary to the rules in the by-law and by the Committee who oversees the CAFE.
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Old 10/5/06, 12:55 PM
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Gee why am I not surprised.
OAHI has never ever told the membership about the huge amount they spent fighting me and just to think if they had of just said I am sorry and followed the rules they could have saved so much money.

5 OAHI directors have told out right lies that I know of .

I am surprised that more members have not spoken up openly instead of sending me confidential letters acknowledging that many know what is going on and are just afraid to speak up .
I can understand why many do not renew but wonder why they do not try and make this a better association by voicing their openion.
Intimidation is strong and alive at OAHI .

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Mr. Wand



As of October 5, 2006 12:01 a.m. you have been suspended for 30 days effective immediately and commence until November 4, 2006.



The new policy 7.10 Membership Forums (technical and general) Required Protocol



Under the final paragraph it states

"any violation to the Cafe (Forum) rules, or posts that in the opinion of the Cafe Monitor are improper will result in the immediate suspension from the Cafe. First offence will be 30 days, second offence will be 90 days, and all subsequent offences will be 1 year".



When you continue to use poor judgement in posting information on the NACHI forum site, your actions are unprofessional and disrespectful. Please read the following you will find that they all apply to your actions.



7.10 Policy

#2 (b)

#2 (e)

#2 (f)

#3 (b)

#3 (c)

#3 (q)



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Now... for what reason do you really think I was suspended for?

Could it be for posting posts from the CAFE to the NACHI forum showing how OAHI bends the rules?

Or

Could it be because I have asked questions about the finances and pointed out the lapse in the by-laws?

Or

Because as displayed by Tom Lloyds post OAHI the BOD and the DPPC have no intention of playing fairly regardless of he circumstances.

I am sorry but Claude you have a big problem in regards to OAHI being a signatory of CAHPI. OAHI repeatedly has shown it has no interest in following the rules and by exhibiting these posts it is quite apparent. Anyone aligned with Nachi in Ontario who seeks National Certification has no assurance whatsoever you will be treated fairly by OAHI who will oversee discipline of NACHI members who are Nationally Certified.
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7.10 Policy

#2 (b)

#2 (e)

#2 (f)

#3 (b)

#3 (c)

#3 (q)

Okay let me review the allegations OAHI has levelled. Here below are the pertinent sections of the Forum Rules.

7.10
Membership Forums (technical and general) Required Protocol
2. The OAHI Membership Forums are a membership privilege (not a right) extended to every individual in the OAHI membership who is in good standing.

b) The purpose of the Forum shall be to foster communication among OAHI members regarding the home inspection profession and the Association business.

e) OAHI does not officially respond to issues raised on the Forums. If you have an issue, concern or complaint regarding an OAHI member, policy, BOD or committee decision you should follow the proper procedures laid out in the OAHI bylaws.

f) All discussions will consist of appropriate language and shall not be slanderous, degrading or mean in spirit.

3. Access to the forums is limited to the OAHI MEMBERS in good standing who agree to abide by the following forum Rules for Users Agreement:

b) Respect other Users on the OAHI Membership Forum. You may
express yourself, but not to injure harm or damage others. Users are
expected to exercise professionalism, common sense and courtesy in
the message transmitted over the OAHI Forums.

c) OAHI Membership Forums shall not be used to libel, slander, defame
or disparage a member or candidate of OAHI or any other person,
company or organization.

g) Use of the OAHI Forum for illegal activities is prohibited, including
illegal drugs, gambling, pornography, prostitution, child pornography,
robbery, spreading computer viruses, entering private computer
discussion boards, soft wear infringement, trafficking in credit card
codes, or other crimes.

Gee I can't see anywhere as provided by OAHI were I have breached those rules. You can see my post were quite innocuous.

Somebody needs to brush up on the rules, these rules do not even apply to what I have supposedly done. Duh!


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The following people will have charges filed by me through the DPPC for trumped up charges and for knowingly allowing the by-laws to be breached and acting outside their capacity as the PR committee. They are not enacted anywhere in the by-laws to carry out any form of suspensions and to deny the right of appeal.There reasons for suspension are not remotely related to the suspension as they allude to

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Mandate: To develop and implement goodwill with the public and outside organizations to further the objects of the Association.
Gerry Quackenbush , Chair
Wendy Cooke, Co-Chair
Brian Daley
Brad Durant
Enio Ferri
Glenn Gogal
Michael Greenberg
Robert Hermann
Edward Homonylo
Elio Mazzolin
Lori Summerfield
Dave Thornham
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Old 10/5/06, 3:09 PM
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The following people will have charges filed by me through the DPPC for trumped up charges and for knowingly allowing the by-laws to be breached and acting outside their capacity as the PR committee. They are not enacted anywhere in the by-laws to carry out any form of suspensions and to deny the right of appeal.There reasons for suspension are not remotely related to the suspension as they allude to

Public Relations


Mandate: To develop and implement goodwill with the public and outside organizations to further the objects of the Association.


Gerry Quackenbush , Chair
Wendy Cooke, Co-Chair
Brian Daley
Brad Durant
Enio Ferri
Glenn Gogal
Michael Greenberg
Robert Hermann
Edward Homonylo
Elio Mazzolin
Lori Summerfield
Dave Thornham
Sorry My charge went in before you .
I should have my charge heard first . Two years and waiting they must be busy Roy



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This complaint went in this pm. Also a copy to the Association lawyer via email and to OAHI office for disbursement and action.
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Old 10/5/06, 4:42 PM
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This complaint went in this pm. Also a copy to the Association lawyer via email and to OAHI office for disbursement and action.
This is so sad that an association like OAHI has to treat it members with so much distane .
I just had a look at who is looking at the NACHI site
Reload this Page 21 members and 66 guests
Most users ever online was 323, 5/6/06 at 9:30 PM.


I wonder how many of the 66 guests are OAHI/CAHPI members .
This seems to be the only place they get the truth .
So glad you are showing OAHI that they should try and be truthfull and follow
their own rules and the Rules of the Canadian Government
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../cl00700e.html
Good luck Raymond I do know many members are with you all the way and
are just too nervious that if they show support they too would be chastised .
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Article 17
Conflict Of Interest Guidelines For Board of Directors and Committee Members

1. Members of the Board of Directors, officers, and Committee members shall act in good faith towards all members and, in
the performance of their duties
, shall place the interests of the Association before their personal and business interests. They
shall,

(a) not use any information gained by their office for personal or business advantage if such information is not generally
available to other members.

(b) promptly disclose to the Board of Directors any interest they have which might be construed as prejudicial in any way
to their decisions or actions.


(c) refrain from participating in any discussion, chairing a meeting, and voting on any matter which directly impacts on their own, business or related interests.

2. The board shall refer suspected abuses of these guidelines to the Discipline and Professional Practices Committee.

Gee I guess Mr. Lloyd and Mr. Quackenbush have not realized they have a conflict. Lets see Mr. Lloyd VP and DPPC Chair is making statements on a discussion board that clearly indicate he is bias, and Mr. Quackenbush PR Committee Chair and Director is clearly bias in his actions because he and his committee can't seem to find the proper policy sections to support their suspension. I would also question the motives of their actions based on members who make up the PR committee who are competitors of mine.

People who have things to hide and can't provide proper answers have something to hide. Too bad because it reflects badly on the profession.
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John,

Everyone knows OAHI members come here to read the goings on within OAHI, because OAHI does not allow free thought, expression, or freedom of association.

The latest laugh is the VP trying to explain why members must go to HQ to see the minutes, financial records etc, when right in the by-law it says reports are to issued to the members quarterly. They sure don't like having to explain why they are breaking the by-laws particularly when they as a board haven't petitioned the membership to change them. Professional bodies don't conduct their administrative affairs in this manner. Breaking he by-laws knowingly is contempt for the office they hold and the trust expected of them from the public and the members. If they treat members this way how are they treating members of the public when they complain about an OAHI inspector?
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