PHPIO oddly brags about education being recognized by a known diploma mill, but...

[jbettencourt]

Sounds good Sean, we wil have to find a day with some free time.

[Nick Gromicko]

Sean, sure. We'd be happy to work with any other association and often do.

[Douglas Cossar]

Originally Posted by bmullen

Nick:

Read it again. It does not say that PHPIO's education is recognized by anyone because PHPIO offers no eductaion directly. PHPIO recognizes the educational offerings of any group that has an accreditation agreement with the NCA. So far you and NACHI have refused.

We need to work on that, becaue i would love to see many or most of your courses accredited by the NCA.

Bill Mullen

We have heard this in the past.

Nick:

What exactly is the stumbling block?

[Nick Gromicko]

They haven't told us why they haven't accepted them yet.

As far as I know, every other inspector organization accepts InterNACHI's courses as do most states.

Of course we can't accept our own courses for them. Acceptance is a unilateral action that doesn't need any agreement. I hope they do some day. Our courses are the best.

We accept theirs www.nachi.org/cont_education.htm

[Douglas Cossar]

Originally Posted by gromicko

They haven't told us why they haven't accepted them yet.

As far as I know, every other inspector organization accepts InterNACHI's courses as do most states.

Of course we can't accept our own courses for them. Acceptance is a unilateral action that doesn't need any agreement. I hope they do some day. Our courses are the best.

We accept theirs www.nachi.org/cont_education.htm

Agreed, however Bill keeps mentioning some type of signed agreement.

It seems that is all that it takes, some signed agreement. What can that hurt?

Cheers

[Nick Gromicko]

No clue. Why would a course provider need to agree to anything? There's the course, take it, approve it. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill.

They won't approve ANY of our courses oddly, but they'll list a known diploma mill on their website.

[Douglas Cossar]

[quote=gromicko;429110]No clue. Why would a course provider need to agree to anything? There's the course, take it, approve it. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill.



Care to answer Bill?

Cheers

[Nick Gromicko]

I think InterNACHI's approval process is the best. ww.nachi.org/cont_education.htm ... and knowing that approval charges would be passed on to the inspector trying to better him/herself... InterNACHI charges nothing for approval.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

No clue. Why would a course provider need to agree to anything? There's the course, take it, approve it. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill.

They won't approve ANY of our courses oddly, but they'll list a known diploma mill on their website.

Bull****, Nick.

PHPIO has had their doors open only one week, so give us a bit of time. Nobody has refused to approve anything. We don't have the luxury of having a dictatorship in which one person makes all the decisions. We are a democracy and if that means it takes more than two minutes to make a decision, so be it.

If your or anyone's courses meet the requirements, they will be approved. Frankly, however, I'm getting pretty tired of you taking shots at us and anyone who doesn't 100% agree with your way of doing things. I have spent a lot of time and money trying to bring your group closer to my groups but obviously you don't agree.

At this point we can approve only courses and course providers that we know meet our criteria.

Bill Mullen

[Nick Gromicko]

PHPIO has had their doors open only one week, so give us a bit of time.

Really??? Then how did ASHI get listed in one week?

You say there is an agreement that has to be signed. I'll call Brion at ASHI on Monday and ask what agreement he signed with PHPIO but until then, may I ask how he got it so quickly?

[George A. H. Luck]

NICK, NICK, NICK ! You have an unfortunate habit of asking difficult questions. These dedicated guys have only been working on this for a year ( or two ?) and now you come along and ask questions? SHAME !

"At this point we can approve only courses and course providers that we know meet our criteria."

Sounds more and more like OAHI all the time, but that is not surprising considering who makes up some of the founding membership of the board of directors.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Really??? Then how did ASHI get listed in one week?

You say there is an agreement that has to be signed. I'll call Brion at ASHI on Monday and ask what agreement he signed with PHPIO but until then, may I ask how he got it so quickly?

Call anybody you like. I spent about five hours meeting with the ASHI rep to CAHPI in Halifax last week. We did a lot of hard work.

From your responses and Lucky George's tone, I take it you don't want me to spend any more time on trying to get recognition for your courses. I'm a bit surprised, though Nick, that you feel a need to attack the only person in Canada who has been trying to get a better deal for your members.
Thanks for taking me off the hook.

Bill Mullen

[Nick Gromicko]

The largest inspection association in the world and the largest inspection school system in the world recognizes our courses as does nearly every licensed state: www.nachi.org/education.htm

Me thinks you have the pecking order backwards. PHPIO needs the recognition, InterNACHI is the recognizer.

Let's not forget what association controls the entire inspection industry.

PHPIO picked the wrong horse IMHO.

[Gary Oleski]

$$$$$!

[Douglas Cossar]

Oh come on guys. I asked questions in an effort to move things along.

I, for one, don't understand all this animosity

We really don't need a pissing contest.

Why don't we try to get along and play nice?

It might make things better for all
Cheers