Pilot project reply

[Charles R. N. Crooker]

Got the bad news too!

[wblakey]

I urge everyone who applied from NACHI to record your information on this message board. I would also like to know what the criteria was for the pilot project... it will be interesting to see how many cahpi, oahi independent and nachi members are on the pilot study. No doubt that info will emerge at some time.

Maybe a simple poll would do...

1. Did you apply?
2. What date did you apply?
3. Were you accepted?

[aobrien]

I also applied and did not get accepted. They did say they put me on a list and after the pilot project was completed they would contact me.

[rrichards2]

If this project was funded in any way with tax dollars, there should be full disclosure of the process and a break down/criteria for inspector selection.

[rwand1]

It seems from what I am hearing if you are Nachi member exclusively you likely were not chosen. I do not know of anyone in Nachi who was chosen. I think I was chosen because I am still a member of OAHI as a Retired member.

As I have said all along this is a program funded in large part by the Federal Government. I am wondering if Nachi was excommunicated because Nick would not sign on. Perhaps this is a form of punishment or a snub.

[wblakey]

That's why it would be interesting to get some facts and figures because the invitation quite clearly stated that the following would be included in the project:

[wblakey]

Sorry, for some strange reason my message was not fully recorded, what I wanted to add was that the pilot project invitation stated that "Members of ANY home and property inspection association" would be included in the project.

[rwand1]

http://www.nachi.org/forum/attachmen...9&d=1137079177
http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/message-cahpi-636/

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

Walla I received an email from B Mullens accepting me into the pilot program.
I am member Of ASET & NACHI. Did this have an effect? Who knows.
He says my Cheque will be cashed next week and I will be getting a package to be filled out and returned. He is also looking for feedback about the process. The thing that I do not understand is he sent the email to info@caphi.ca and my email is info@hcil.ca.
No where does my name appear on the email or the attached PDF file.
Go figure.
PS Email sent to me on Thu 2006.03.23 1:10 PM
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[Claude Lawrenson]

Congratulations to those selected. It is good to see NACHI members included in the process. Those not selected need to remember it is a "pilot", and almost 400 applicants were in the selection pool for those 100 positions. Remember there are others outside of NACHI equally disappointed too! So there a lot more not selected than those selected regardless of association.

That does not stop the others from undergoing the process. It is still a process that will continue over time, likely at a higher processing fee. Besides one of the many outcomes anticipated from the "pilot" is to establish realistic costs of conducting the review process.

Regarding questions of process -my understanding the selection was based on criteria established by CAN-P-9 criteria.

[rrichards2]

"Regarding questions of process -my understanding the selection was based on criteria established by CAN-P-9 criteria."

CAN-P-9 was used to select the applicants for the program?

[Claude Lawrenson]

CAN-P-9 is about process, afterall, the applicants are going through a certification process for the person. Similar to ISO Standards it specifies requirements which ensures that the process is consistent, comparable and reliable. In addition, it ensures impartiality of operations and its management to reduce the risk of a conflict of interest through ethical operations.

[rrichards2]

Very interesting!
Will we have the oppertunity to see the statistics for enrollment in the pilot project. ie: by association, independants etc. Just curious.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

CAN-P-9 is about process, afterall, the applicants are going through a certification process for the person. Similar to ISO Standards it specifies requirements which ensures that the process is consistent, comparable and reliable. In addition, it ensures impartiality of operations and its management to reduce the risk of a conflict of interest through ethical operations.

Very interesting Claude but it sure would be nice if we could be sure proper procedure is being followed .
We have not been given much information in the past and why should we trust that every thing is on the up and up .
We keep getting Trust us and we have many reasons to not trust who seems to be running this.
You keep telling me to stop bringing up the past but we have been given very little information to go on .
We have never been told who was on the earlier decision making and have no idea who is on the present decision making procedures .
We have no true idea how many applications where received and a break down on areas and memberships or not in any organizations.
I am exceptional disappointed in how this is being run.
I must say this to me is exactly the way OAHI is running their association Give little information ignore questions or belittle the person who asks them .
CAHPI if they hope to have the support of home inspectors must start immediately come forth with this information or quit.
Bill Mullen has proved in the past that he does not have the ability to be civil when he does not like what is said .
OAHI is proving they do not and will not communicate with those IN the inspection industry .
It has proved time and time again that this NACHI BB seems to be the only place any information is realeased to home inspectors and the little bit we get is from Inspectors asking questions .
I have said before I expect the National Certification to fail due to the lack of respect the Home Inspectors of Canada receive from CAHPI
I feel CAHPI is nothing but a selfish greedy group who do not wish Canadian Insectors to ask for information.
I feel all things that have happened are intentional and designed to keep us all in the dark.
I read that those who got their applications in first would be
QUOTE"The introductory offer will be first come first served. "
Well I know this is not the way it is happening.
My application was In the CAHPI mail box at Brighton within 2 hours of the original post.
Why must Claude who I have no idea what his position is be the only one who makes very irregular and then only answers part of the question be the one who does answer.
Do the powers ? not have the courtesy to give out the proper information.
We where chastised for approaching or member of Parliament before and how it caused grief .
I would hope that all those who did complain before do not sit quiet if you are not satisfied and are disappointed in the way your tax dollars are being spent.
We do not seem to be getting the proper treatment for Those who seem to be in charge and give no information.

Roy Cooke sr Royshomeinspection.com

[rwand1]

Regarding questions of process -my understanding the selection was based on criteria established by CAN-P-9 criteria.

How can that be when the entire process has not been audited to see if it meets CAN- P9? Isn't the the equivalent of saying yes I inspect homes to ASHI SOP, but no I have never had my reports audited for compliance to meet SOP?

If the whole process lacks accreditation by audit, does it have any validity?