Professional or Trade Association.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by bmullen

I've heard lots of similar stories, although this one is a dandy. If we ever want to be perceived as professionals, we have to be willing to look and act like professionals and ensure that our colleagues do the same.

Bill Mullen

Pure, unadulterated bullcrap.

[Claude Lawrenson]

"Professions are obligated to place the welfare of the public above their own financial self-interest and to maintain a high level of professional competence." OACETT Professional Practice Study Manual

So I sit on the fence half way between what we need to achieve and where we are at.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Pure, unadulterated bullcrap.

James:

If you feel you have a need to be and look unprofessional, that's your right. If you feel it is professional for some of our colleagues to dupe the public by pretending they have more ability than they really have, that's just sad.

Bill Mullen

[klott]

Home Inspection is a profession, and a trade, however that does not mean that all inspectors are professionals, or simply tradesmen. Licenses, Certifications nor Associations, make a home inspector a professional person. Inspecting is a trade, therefore a home inspector is a tradesmen in the profession of inspecting. Therefore, if I could vote, I would either vote for both or neither. Inspectors are blue collar workers, who in the quest to feed their egos, try to equate themselves as being equal to Brain Surgeons. The fact that this discussion is being conducted, this late in the game, serves to show how imbalanced, this business really is. If we don't know what we are, how can we expect anyone else too.

[klott]

Originally Posted by Bull Squad

Btw is this comment along with the red square considered professional?

It is as professional as the name you post under.

[dcook1]

Originally Posted by bmullen

It is very common, however, because we have allowed ourselves to become the lackies to Realtors and others in the real estate transaction who do not value our contribution. Some have, however some realtors are out to take care of their clients.... That is just why you are there,,, some realtors know you are good. There are some and always will be those who just want you to tell the client what they want the client to hear. Fortunatly they are few and far between. None of us has the exact solution, but surely if we try to cobble together the good points in every association we can come up with a good one.

I've heard lots of similar stories, although this one is a dandy. If we ever want to be perceived as professionals, we have to be willing to look and act like professionals and ensure that our colleagues do the same. How do we dictate to some potatoe head that he has to do the job right? Most likely he is just some goof retired from installing telephones and "I heard you can make $150,000 a year being a home inspector, so now I am one" type of guy

Bill Mullen

Ver good statement by Mr Lott...... Home Inspection is a profession, and a trade, however that does not mean that all inspectors are professionals, or simply tradesmen. Licenses, Certifications nor Associations, make a home inspector a professional person. Inspecting is a trade, therefore a home inspector is a tradesmen in the profession of inspecting. If we don't know what we are, how can we expect anyone else too.

[John Allingham]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Are inspectors in Canada licensed?

Are these designations CAHPI or OAHI something that is required for a license in Canada to be in the inspection business?....or are they just like NACHI and ASHI, just associations you can belong to if you want, and if you don't want to, well that's fine too?

No to your first question, yes to the last.

[James H. Bushart]

NACHI is neither a trade or a professional organization in that it does not require that its members be past or presently employed, either part or full time, in an inspection-related occupation.

[Steven C. Meyer]

Originally Posted by Bull Squad

James

What is the bullcrap; the story told by David and commented on by Bill, or the fact that many inspectors including yourself fail to act like the professional you want to be seen as?

Curious professionals want to know?

And you are the poster child of a professional???

The only thing you are professional at is picking up quarters.

[George A. H. Luck]

Well Bill, if you want a dilly of a story, try this one. Inspector turns up at a house. Calls out several faults and declares a price for fixing them and then asks the purchaser if she wants to continue with the inspection. He hurries through the rest of the inspection ( it's getting late!) and then presents his report, collects and leaves.

For the next month after the family moves in ( inspection completed in September, possession in early December) the family feels sicker and sicker. The kids start taking days off school and the Mrs. and Mr. suffer Major head aches. The furnace then shuts down. The P.U.C. man who comes out on New Years Eve refuses to relight the furnace because the inspector had missed the fact that the smoke pipe was full of holes! The P.U.C. man demonstrates to the purchaser by poking his finger through the pipe in several places.

And the punch line? The purchaser is a lawyer and did nothing about it!!

You personally know this inspector.

[Nick Gromicko]

Truth be told, InterNACHI isn't an "institutional" trade association... it is more of a cooperative framework. But sssshhhh..... don't tell the 35 inspectors who joined today.

[Nick Gromicko]

InterNACHI was researched as part of the preparation for this very interesting talk: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/c...aboration.html

[Nick Gromicko]

Some of it came from an interview I did where InterNACHI is being considered for inclusion in the "10 Best Run Trade Associations in the World." I argued the InterNACHI should not be included as we are not an "institutional" trade association and really not "run" in the traditional sense of the word. You'll hear him say exact quotes from me, word for word, found in the archives of this message board. See some of my posts explaining why we don't do much planning and why we permit annonymous posters who rarely contribute.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/c...aboration.html

[Nick Gromicko]

Chirs Morrell, who I credit for much of InterNACHI's success, is a big Linux fan. You can see his influence in InterNACHI's policies, or should I say lack of them.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by bmullen

James:

If you feel you have a need to be and look unprofessional, that's your right. If you feel it is professional for some of our colleagues to dupe the public by pretending they have more ability than they really have, that's just sad.

Bill Mullen

What my "colleagues" do to "dupe the public" has nothing to do with me, my business, or the quality of my service. Nor would it if my "colleagues" did a better job of serving the public than I do.

My client hires me...not my "colleagues".

You are too hung up on "the other guy", as if his qualifications....good or bad...somehow represented what you can or cannot perform in a home inspection.

Grow up, Bill. Be your own man and stop being so darned dependent upon the skills (or lack thereof) of others.