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Old 10/28/11, 9:24 PM
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I need some help trying to put an age on a furnace and water heater and a joist span question.
Furnace:schedule-inspection-furnace-1.jpg schedule-inspection-furnace-2.jpg

H/W tank schedule-inspection-hw-tank.jpg schedule-inspection-hw-tank2.jpg


Floor joist span is over 15ft Long on an addition 16"OC 2 x 10's No beams or support posts. Span goes from block foundation to block foundation in crawlspace addition.
Seems a bit long for me ...a bit of bounce.

Does anyone know what these are?? cold water line.
Just threw this one in!!

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Old 10/28/11, 10:18 PM
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AO Smith- 2nd letter (sometimes first i.e. Kenmore and GSW) equals the month and the next two digits are the year.

Rheem & Rudd: in the middle of the serial number will be a letter "F" or “M” the following four numbers are the week and year.

They allow Romex to hang on top of copper waterline?
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Old 10/28/11, 10:21 PM
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Ruud... 24th week of 2002

GSW... 7th week of 2002

Depends on wood species, but my rule of thumb... if you feel bounce and see no reason for it, it's overspanned... refer to qualified person.

Nope... but guess... water hammer arrestors, but doesn't really make sense when paired together.

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Average is 15 feet for most types of 2x10 joist lumber. You can recommend support in the middle just because it is minimum according to standards today. This is based on 20psf.



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Old 10/28/11, 10:33 PM
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Average is 15 feet for most types of 2x10 joist lumber. You can recommend support in the middle just because it is minimum according to standards today. This is based on 20psf.
Oh... let's nit-pick!!!

Support does not need to be in the middle. Depends on species of wood! Why make room space potentially unuseable when you could possibly place support 1-2-3 ft from the wall???

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Old 10/28/11, 11:23 PM
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Thanks Bob you were bang on. That romex is the least problem here with this house in an electrical sense...no wonder the owner walked away. I will post some horror pics soon. This was a bank sale.
Beam span thanks guys spruce lumber grade "A" ...I thought initially they were only 8" but i went back to my truck and got my tape. This was a hell hole complete with satanic symbols.



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I need some help trying to put an age on a furnace and water heater and a joist span question.
Furnace:Attachment 49226 Attachment 49227

H/W tank Attachment 49228 Attachment 49229


Floor joist span is over 15ft Long on an addition 16"OC 2 x 10's No beams or support posts. Span goes from block foundation to block foundation in crawlspace addition.
Seems a bit long for me ...a bit of bounce.

Does anyone know what these are?? cold water line.
Just threw this one in!!

Attachment 49230

Thanks
Those are "magnetic water conditioners". I have seen one only once before and a good thing too. Another snake oil product pushed on the unknowing public.

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magscams.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_water_treatment

http://www.nmsr.org/magnetic.htm


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Good timing to be in house like this! Halloween is right around the corner.



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Oh... let's nit-pick!!!

Support does not need to be in the middle. Depends on species of wood! Why make room space potentially unuseable when you could possibly place support 1-2-3 ft from the wall???

Never report on the cure for a defect, especially a support beam.
The support is under the crawlspace hardly useable space, storage only.

Secondly "never report on the cure or defect", but you have done just that, recommend putting the beam out 1-2-3 feet from the wall.

Just want to make sure you realized what you posted.
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The support is under the crawlspace hardly useable space, storage only. Irrelevant.

Secondly "never report on the cure or defect", but you have done just that, recommend putting the beam out 1-2-3 feet from the wall. No I haven't. Perhaps you should actually read what was written.

Just want to make sure you realized what you posted.
I know exactly what I wrote.

I see the tag team of Roy and Ray has finally shown up. After a few days of hiding and deleting posts, he finally sends you in to attack me.

Both of you, F*ck Off !!!
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I know exactly what I wrote.

I see the tag team of Roy and Ray has finally shown up. After a few days of hiding and deleting posts, he finally sends you in to attack me.

Both of you, F*ck Off !!!
Jeffery You sure do lack Diplomacy

You seem to feel you can correct others but they should never show you your errors .
You are a great asset to NACHI and this is a great post on an open Forum available to the public to see just how some members operate.
Not Needed and not a proper way to behave .



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I know exactly what I wrote.

I see the tag team of Roy and Ray has finally shown up. After a few days of hiding and deleting posts, he finally sends you in to attack me.

Both of you, F*ck Off !!!
No further comment needed I see the professionalism is alive and well, and you cannot support your proposition.

Do your clients a favour do not dispense your knowledge that is lacking in so many ways!
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Oh... let's nit-pick!!!

Support does not need to be in the middle. Depends on species of wood! Why make room space potentially unuseable when you could possibly place support 1-2-3 ft from the wall???

Never report on the cure for a defect, especially a support beam.
Yup that's what you wrote, maybe you didn't mean to write it that way, but that's what it says and implies.

And obviously you are a very good example why you should not be offering advice on repairs because you have no idea what you don't know.

The only defect here is you, and that may explain much!
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Old 11/1/11, 7:38 AM
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Not Needed and not a proper way to behave .
Roy, shall I post all the examples of your bad behavior, name calling and lying on this message board?

What a hypocrite you are.



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