Selfish OAHI

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Why respond? To give your suggestion or allegation of impropriety credence? ..( 1)

What poll or facts have been collected to prove the real value of such statements? Scientifically based or just by a few unhappy people?
..(2 )

First the question must be based on uneqivocal facts to deserve an "honest" answer. Than one needs to know or be armed with facts to respond. As noted above - why give credence to the question by answering the questions based on what an extreme few may think. Furthermore allegations are just that - a statement describing what that position is and what that person intends to prove. Where's the proof?

Bring that forward - than we have someting to discuss and provide "reasonable" answers to the subject.

BTW - who is the person noted in your starter post? I don't know him - why should I really care? Dare I say there are others out there that are home inspectors that may possibly fit this description, beyond the realm of just OAHI? What about them?

..( 1) You seldom respond to any questions.


....(2 ) Gee you do not need a poll or be a professor to see that we have a large amount of schools giving courses to turn out Home Inspectors and still OAHI maintains about 200± RHIs.


..( 3) A simple Goggle could tell you who the latest OAHI leader is of this school

....( 4) Strange you find it humorous that in Ontario many continue to teach people to become home Inspectors and after spending considerable time and money they seldom succeed.

....( 5) I wonder how these who do not tell the truth to these poor soles sleep at night I see nothing negitive about the truth.


No problem - I added the disclaimer to help assure any real or even the possibility of perceived conflict of interest. Some seem offended when I mention a product, or endorsement - sometimes they are even just are offended by my post regardless of content - so when in doubt cover it with an open disclosure...( 4) Need to humour those who fine negativity in everything! --....( 5)

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,... More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

[Claude Lawrenson]

As I stated before if you feel you have all the answers - great. But why is there such a dire need to continually waste others time here on airing dirty laundry about OAHI, CAHPI and other associated people? Two years later and nothing has changed in your relentless pursuit. Why not simply let things go. Don't we have more "constructive" things to offer other members here?

Personally - I find some of the personal attacks and comments equally as unprofessional of some allegations claimed! - Thats my opinion. Perhaps it simply makes NACHI look like it has a "few" members that are also out of control. Do you think it may even have a detrimental effect on Inter-Nachi?

As Nick responded to me before - its an open forum and how do you control postings such as the diatribe of trashing everything and named individuals. - He has a very good point; but perhaps wiser individuals and others see it very differently! They do have a solution. So don't for a minute forget that I may be the only one responding, but others are watching and listening. Very attentively with a purposeful plan in mind. Not a threat - simply a way to clear the good names of people and associations you continue to slander.

I would simply suggest that you seriously consider cutting back on such rhetoric.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

As I stated before if you feel you have all the answers - great. But why is there such a dire need to continually waste others time here on airing dirty laundry about OAHI, CAHPI and other associated people? Two years later and nothing has changed in your relentless pursuit. Why not simply let things go. Don't we have more "constructive" things to offer other members here?

Personally - I find some of the personal attacks and comments equally as unprofessional of some allegations claimed! - Thats my opinion. Perhaps it simply makes NACHI look like it has a "few" members that are also out of control. Do you think it may even have a detrimental effect on Inter-Nachi?

As Nick responded to me before - its an open forum and how do you control postings such as the diatribe of trashing everything and named individuals. - He has a very good point; but perhaps wiser individuals and others see it very differently! They do have a solution. So don't for a minute forget that I may be the only one responding, but others are watching and listening. Very attentively with a purposeful plan in mind. Not a threat - simply a way to clear the good names of people and associations you continue to slander.

I would simply suggest that you seriously consider cutting back on such rhetoric.

I do not have all the answers if fact I have very few answers you and others do not respond and give the answers.
Your saying I should cut back and that it is not a treat but telling me it is slander borders on intimidation the way I see it .
This is completely the way OAHI treats its members I guess they have trained you well .
Want me to stop them why not have OAHI and CAHPI give us the information.
I stand behind my statements and want only the truth for all inspectors . Telling me others are listening is too bad for them .
At least Claude you have the courage and courtesy to stand up and give me your openions .
I most certinly appreciate it and thank you for it .
My personal attacks as you say are no different then those of some in OAHI and I do not ever remember you chastising them
( Could they be to close to you ) How about fair treatment for all.
If you and the rest do not like my posting of my openion then you have three choices .
(1) keep reading ,
.(2) Stop reading and complaining
.(3) Our as you say take me too court .
I would just love to meet these people and have them on the stand where they would be forced to tell the truth.

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,... More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/lets-not-forget-whistler-4935/

Claude says (So don't for a minute forget that I may be the only one responding, but others are watching and listening.)
Sounds like many know where to come to find out what goes on in the real world .
It is so unfortunate that NACHI is the only one who helps all Canadians to know what is going on.

[rwand1]

Well at least we don't get suspended for posting public documents and don't get suspended for defending ones self unlike the CAFE where Mr. Bennett can act outside the confines of the forum rules and suspend people and use his slacky to enforce the suspensions on innocent parties, then claim he is a volunteer and doesn't get paid. This bozo is now President of AATO and the same guy who sits on the Board of Examiners and the By-law committee. Boy thats rich. Just like the time OAHI came out with a by-law demanding loyalty to OAHI, trying to silence the whistle blowers or those they cannot stand leaking the truth. Or the same way they demand BOD to sign confidentiality agreements to ensure their screw ups are never exposed. Boy thats rich. Claude you seem to be part of the status quo. Being part of the status quo is easy; I could do that, but there is no honesty in it.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Todays Chuckle , Found this flyer given to Realestate offices in Ont by OAHI.
__________________________________________________ _______________
The Ontario Association of Home Inspectors

The mission of the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors is to
Lead the Home Inspection profesion by delveloping and maintaining
professional standards, education,ethics and disipline.


Only OAHI inspectors give you the confidence of knowing that you
are dealing with the best!
__________________________________________________ _______________

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,... More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

[rwand1]

Another puppy mill

http://www.home-inspectors.com/growbus.htm

Home Inspectors ® is poised for expansion just when our services are needed the most! Through our Home Inspectors Institute ® we are offering a unique opportunity to establish businesses which will be among the fastest growing success stories of the millennium. Home inspection is often a natural and logical career progression for professionals or tradespeople in construction related occupations wishing to change career paths. Home Inspectors ® says it all: our unique registered name and logo is synonymous with the industry we represent. Our reputation for service and integrity since 1980 and our immense experience gained by conducting over 14,500 home inspections without a single legal judgment against us, has earned the respect of the legal profession, real estate community, educational facilities and financial institutions.

Don't miss out on this exceptional opportunity enroll in our introductory home inspector
training to corner the market in YOUR AREA before someone else seizes it first!

http://www.home-inspectors.com/getstart.htm
cha ching $$$ cha ching $$$

http://www.home-inspectors.com/accreditation.htm#top

[Greg Bell]

Ray is that ad about 5 years old? I don't know about up there but the market is slowing down here.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Another puppy mill

http://www.home-inspectors.com/growbus.htm

!

http://www.home-inspectors.com/getstart.htm
cha ching $$$ cha ching $$$









http://www.home-inspectors.com/accreditation.htm#top

Another of the OAHI ex Directors feeding on those who seldome become HIs.
I think there are about 6 doing this

This not good for the industry and sure hurts many by taking money some can not afford to do this .

Roy Cooke sr. RHI... Royshomeinspection.com. CAHPI-ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by gbell

Ray is that ad about 5 years old? I don't know about up there but the market is slowing down here.

This is the above person still doing it
NEW DATE !
First class of the year!

SPRING - 2006

Date
Tuition Fee*
Registration Deadline
Details
Spring 2006
April 22nd to
April 30th, 2006

NOTE: This class may be the only one that we will be offering until the Fall
$3,750.00

includes tuition fees,all text material and applicable taxes

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No we have another OAHI past pres just starting up another one now.
It just never seems to end.

Roy Cooke sr

[rwand1]

Todays Chuckle , Found this flyer given to Realestate offices in Ont by OAHI.
__________________________________________________ _______________
The Ontario Association of Home Inspectors

The mission of the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors is to
Lead the Home Inspection profesion by delveloping and maintaining
professional standards, education,ethics and disipline.


Only OAHI inspectors give you the confidence of knowing that you
are dealing with the best!

Okay here's how accurate the above quote is.....

http://www.peo.on.ca/complaints/Gaze...ction_JJ00.pdf

The Registrar of the Association of Professional Engineers of Ontario, and Canadian Home Inspection Services Inc.

http://www.canadianhomeinspection.com/training.html

Yup sure they have high standards!

[Greg Bell]

Hi Ray,

I agree. It just seems that in a short time most realize that there is more money in providing services to home inspectors instead of doing inspections. I made a choice of not doing that long ago.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by gbell

Hi Ray,

I agree. It just seems that in a short time most realize that there is more money in providing services to home inspectors instead of doing inspections. I made a choice of not doing that long ago.

Thanks Greg
I agree there are many of us who just try and make the industry better ,try to help existing inspectors and
not BS all who want to be HIs with a lot of BS about how easy it is get going in the Industry.
This is really what has destroyed the Canadian associations .

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,... More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

[Claude Lawrenson]

How about those doing the same type of thing through NACHI, ASHI, et al?
Certainly there are lots on all sides regardless of association or those UA's - unaffiliated.

However, if one is "legally" running such businesses - and they serve through voluntary service with associations, and they DISCLOSE and step aside on issues related to their business interest if and when a "conflict of interest" arises - what's the issue?

Is it possible some are feeding "misinformation" and not looking out for these prospects? Certainly, but who are "we" to judge - unless there is "proof positive" or they are doing something unlawful.

How about those providing "kickbacks" or referral fees or other types of inducements to those associations? Hey the list of possibilities is endless. But it better be based on fact not just speculation, or a few catch phrases to lure in inspectors.

Are you out to create a list of these "potential" people and businesses? If so there your list will be endless.

[Claude Lawrenson]

Ray - here is my biggest fear - there are far too many examples of this type of influence.
http://www.nashvillescene.com/Storie...al/index.shtml

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

How about those doing the same type of thing through NACHI, ASHI, et al?
Certainly there are lots on all sides regardless of association or those UA's - unaffiliated.

However, if one is "legally" running such businesses - and they serve through voluntary service with associations, and they DISCLOSE and step aside on issues related to their business interest if and when a "conflict of interest" arises - what's the issue?

Is it possible some are feeding "misinformation" and not looking out for these prospects? Certainly, but who are "we" to judge - unless there is "proof positive" or they are doing something unlawful.

How about those providing "kickbacks" or referral fees or other types of inducements to those associations? Hey the list of possibilities is endless.
But it better be based on fact not just speculation, or a few catch phrases to lure in inspectors.

Are you out to create a list of these "potential" people and businesses? If so there your list will be endless.

Claude I think you have tunnel vision and just don't get it If people go under there own free will to a College to become a HI then fine .
But I do not ever remember seeing you go to a pre Meeting of OAHI and see the great selling job being done on these poor soles .
Volunteer to be on any Committees great been there done that still do that so I feel I can talk about this .
To use this position to make more money from teaching is just wrong and you should know that .
How about Two Financial secretaries Quitting in mid term asking for a proper audit .
How about for many years BOD members quiting for reasons ?
How about asking BOD members to sign a silence bond.
Do not the membership deserve a proper BOD who do not make money from their positions.
You as per usual do not give any answers just try and turn the story around .
If you wish to voice your thoughts about NACHI fine this is you prerogative .
I just know more about OAHI and how it should be a great association but it is still almost a closed door group.
Come on Claude you know more about it then I do and you wish to sit back and do nothing fine but why try and shoot the messenger.

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,... More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935