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Old 4/10/08, 10:25 AM
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Now it's time to move on and continue to learn as i can't change the past...
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Old 4/10/08, 10:29 AM
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The issue is that others need to be aware that a potential for concern does exist, and more importantly what can be done to correct it. Other accredited bodies often have a policy in place to warn and hopefully correct the concern. Likewise participants do have a right to express their concerns if there is an issue regarding dissatisfaction. If not - than what value is that recognition?

As Joe stated earlier, he looked into the matter, and hopefully changes are being made to address the concerns. It's the old case of "caveat emptor".



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Old 4/10/08, 8:56 PM
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Roy H,

Thank you.
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Old 4/10/08, 10:37 PM
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The issue is that others need to be aware that a potential for concern does exist, and more importantly what can be done to correct it. Other accredited bodies often have a policy in place to warn and hopefully correct the concern.

But INACHI is not an accredited body....therein lies the rub. It is a private corporation that spins itself with "web fiction" (owning hundreds of URLs, running web farms, offering cheap or free weak and questionable certifications, having a large board) to look like this huge and widely accepted accredited body. So far what I've seen...... it's a merry-go-round HI mill where 85-90% of its graduates fail in 3 years......great track record.

Sharondale got "credibility" by using INACHI essentially as a reference.......and learned how to spin, spin, spin spin........ From their website:

"We offer all this training, including manual, and a beautiful graduation diploma ( Hey, I got 4 grand to get me one of those), AND a one year paid membership in the International Association of Certified Home Inspectors for the low, low price of $3,987.70 (I thought a 1 year membership was only $289). You can start earning money while you learn! One of our students made over $7,000.00 in home inspections before he finished the course! $1,800.00 in one busy weekend! (Man, must be some school!!!!!)

Think about it ............... You can charge anywhere from $300.(low) to $650. or more, for each inspection, which takes, on average, about 3-4 hrs. to complete. If you do only one a day at the lowest price; that still works out to $1,250.00 a week! (I thought 5 x $300 = $1,500; must be a $250 cut for the school!!!!!)

Let us show you how you can make a six figure income (Not revenue but actual in-your-pocket income) in as little as two to three years or less, (Guess I went to the wrong school) by giving exceptional service and applying certain marketing secrets we can share with you!

It's the old case of "caveat emptor".
caveat emptor......doesn't that translate to "pockets emptied"?

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Old 4/10/08, 10:44 PM
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Brian considering Nicks post was titled: "Re: Sharondale Academy in Ontario using InterNACHI training material exclusively." is an endorsement surely as CMI is endorsed by the Canadian government by way of trademark.

I surely would not want my association name plastered all over a site that is making absurd false claims. But would you expect any thing different considering the nature of the beast?
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Old 4/10/08, 10:49 PM
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You can charge anywhere from $300.(low) to $650. or more, for each inspection, which takes, on average, about 3-4 hrs. to complete. If you do only one a day at the lowest price; that still works out to $1,250.00 a week!

Even stranger considering all newbies under cut their fees drastically compared to seasoned inspectors who charge at the upper end. There is no way someone just starting is commanding $650, let alone doing 5-7 inspections per week.

False, false, false. Talk about blackening the eye of the industry!

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Old 4/11/08, 11:40 AM
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Raymond Wand,

I would like visitors to this message board to know his name.

I would like them to know precisely what his recent posts are about.

He was expelled from the world's largest home inspection association: the International Association of Certified Home Insectors.

For a time, he was allowed to continue to post messages on this board. That was, until he made slanderous remarks regarding me, which resulted in all posts ever made by him previous to this action to be removed from the message board. The problem was so very severe, that removal was the only option.

After that, his user name was blocked from access. In effect, he was banned.

This resulted in a decision on his part to re-register on this association message board and continue the verbal assaults.

He was again told that he had been banned and was no longer welcome.

To this day, he continues the assaults.

Now, he not only verbally abuse members, but he makes disparaging remarks on other message boards.

The origins and intent of these boards, including who owns, controls, or initiates them, is somewhat in question.

My suggestion to NACHI members who do not approve of Mr. Raymond Wand's actions simply copy and paste this message in response to his continual dribble.

I believe Ray Wand's actions are unprofessional, and as a member on good standing of InterNACHI, I will no longer respond to these attacks other than to repeat what is written here.

I also believe his actions to be intentional, unwarranted, and not representative of that InterNACHI is all about.
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Old 4/11/08, 12:30 PM
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Joe,
You are repeating yourself which is an sign of dementia!
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Old 4/11/08, 12:33 PM
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Raymond Wand,

I would like visitors to this message board to know his name.

I would like them to know precisely what his recent posts are about.

He was expelled from the world's largest home inspection association: the International Association of Certified Home Insectors.

For a time, he was allowed to continue to post messages on this board. That was, until he made slanderous remarks regarding me, which resulted in all posts ever made by him previous to this action to be removed from the message board. The problem was so very severe, that removal was the only option.

After that, his user name was blocked from access. In effect, he was banned.

This resulted in a decision on his part to re-register on this association message board and continue the verbal assaults.

He was again told that he had been banned and was no longer welcome.

To this day, he continues the assaults.

Now, he not only verbally abuse members, but he makes disparaging remarks on other message boards.

The origins and intent of these boards, including who owns, controls, or initiates them, is somewhat in question.

My suggestion to NACHI members who do not approve of Mr. Raymond Wand's actions simply copy and paste this message in response to his continual dribble.

I believe Ray Wand's actions are unprofessional, and as a member on good standing of InterNACHI, I will no longer respond to these attacks other than to repeat what is written here.

I also believe his actions to be intentional, unwarranted, and not representative of that InterNACHI is all about.



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Old 4/11/08, 12:36 PM
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Michael

I looked at Active Rain and saw your picture is that your wife or your brother beside you?
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Old 4/11/08, 12:37 PM
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Raymond Wand,

I would like visitors to this message board to know his name.

I would like them to know precisely what his recent posts are about.

He was expelled from the world's largest home inspection association: the International Association of Certified Home Insectors.

For a time, he was allowed to continue to post messages on this board. That was, until he made slanderous remarks regarding me, which resulted in all posts ever made by him previous to this action to be removed from the message board. The problem was so very severe, that removal was the only option.

After that, his user name was blocked from access. In effect, he was banned.

This resulted in a decision on his part to re-register on this association message board and continue the verbal assaults.

He was again told that he had been banned and was no longer welcome.

To this day, he continues the assaults.

Now, he not only verbally abuse members, but he makes disparaging remarks on other message boards.

The origins and intent of these boards, including who owns, controls, or initiates them, is somewhat in question.

My suggestion to NACHI members who do not approve of Mr. Raymond Wand's actions simply copy and paste this message in response to his continual dribble.

I believe Ray Wand's actions are unprofessional, and as a member on good standing of InterNACHI, I will no longer respond to these attacks other than to repeat what is written here.

I also believe his actions to be intentional, unwarranted, and not representative of that InterNACHI is all about.
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Old 4/11/08, 12:39 PM
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James, Joe, and Frankie,

Linas when have you had a humble opinion, most are not humble and verge on psychotic.

AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE TERRIBLE PYSCHOTIC MESSAGE YOU AND FRANKIE CRAYOLA CARRIO SENT TO ROY COOKE?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE ACTIONS JOE. F. COMMITTED AGAINST ROY WHEN HE CALLED HIM AND BREACHED GOOD TASTE, ETHICS, AND MORALITY?

Yes James Freedom of speech is one thing, but these kind of personal attacks and disparagements.....by some on the ESOP....have been tolerated for too long!

This is a message board for NACHI and its guests....yet we allow ethically challenged ESOP liars and other vermin to send messages that are intentionally designed to do harm to other members.

At one time, before people like Bushart, Carrio, and Farsetta and a few of these other idiots on the ESOP began to molest us....the free and open board was a positive thing. But to allow these obviously mentally ill people to scatter their hate and slander has made NACHI their tool.

I'm with you, James. Something has to be done.

I don't care about the criticisms aimed at me. But have been able to ignore most of them for years and continue with my business as usual. I am talking about the slanderous and libelous remarks that NACHI allows....under its copyright....to be Googled and spread to the world pertaining to individuals by the ESOP!

The psychotic minds behind the ESOP hate cannot be helped, but NACHI has a duty to clean the bottom of the bird cage every once in a while, IMO and should ensure the current ESOP is disband!

Yep James I agree!

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Old 4/11/08, 12:44 PM
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Raymond Wand,

I would like visitors to this message board to know his name.

I would like them to know precisely what his recent posts are about.

He was expelled from the world's largest home inspection association: the International Association of Certified Home Insectors.

For a time, he was allowed to continue to post messages on this board. That was, until he made slanderous remarks regarding me, which resulted in all posts ever made by him previous to this action to be removed from the message board. The problem was so very severe, that removal was the only option.

After that, his user name was blocked from access. In effect, he was banned.

This resulted in a decision on his part to re-register on this association message board and continue the verbal assaults.

He was again told that he had been banned and was no longer welcome.

To this day, he continues the assaults.

Now, he not only verbally abuse members, but he makes disparaging remarks on other message boards.

The origins and intent of these boards, including who owns, controls, or initiates them, is somewhat in question.

My suggestion to NACHI members who do not approve of Mr. Raymond Wand's actions simply copy and paste this message in response to his continual dribble.

I believe Ray Wand's actions are unprofessional, and as a member on good standing of InterNACHI, I will no longer respond to these attacks other than to repeat what is written here.

I also believe his actions to be intentional, unwarranted, and not representative of that InterNACHI is all



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Old 4/11/08, 12:46 PM
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When have you farts had a humble opinion, most are not humble and verge on psychotic.

AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE TERRIBLE PYSCHOTIC MESSAGE YOU AND FRANKIE CRAYOLA CARRIO SENT TO ROY COOKE?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE ACTIONS JOE. F. COMMITTED AGAINST ROY WHEN HE CALLED HIM AND BREACHED GOOD TASTE, ETHICS, AND MORALITY?

Yes James Freedom of speech is one thing, but these kind of personal attacks and disparagements.....by some on the ESOP....have been tolerated for too long!

This is a message board for NACHI and its guests....yet we allow ethically challenged ESOP liars and other vermin to send messages that are intentionally designed to do harm to other members.

At one time, before people like Bushart, Carrio, and Farsetta and a few of these other idiots on the ESOP began to molest us....the free and open board was a positive thing. But to allow these obviously mentally ill people to scatter their hate and slander has made NACHI their tool.

I'm with you, James. Something has to be done.

I don't care about the criticisms aimed at me. But have been able to ignore most of them for years and continue with my business as usual. I am talking about the slanderous and libelous remarks that NACHI allows....under its copyright....to be Googled and spread to the world pertaining to individuals by the ESOP!

The psychotic minds behind the ESOP hate cannot be helped, but NACHI has a duty to clean the bottom of the bird cage every once in a while, IMO and should ensure the current ESOP is disband!

Yep James I agree!

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When have you farts had a humble opinion, most are not humble and verge on psychotic.

AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE TERRIBLE PYSCHOTIC MESSAGE YOU AND FRANKIE CRAYOLA CARRIO SENT TO ROY COOKE?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE ACTIONS JOE. F. COMMITTED AGAINST ROY WHEN HE CALLED HIM AND BREACHED GOOD TASTE, ETHICS, AND MORALITY?

Yes James Freedom of speech is one thing, but these kind of personal attacks and disparagements.....by some on the ESOP....have been tolerated for too long!

This is a message board for NACHI and its guests....yet we allow ethically challenged ESOP liars and other vermin to send messages that are intentionally designed to do harm to other members.

At one time, before people like Bushart, Carrio, and Farsetta and a few of these other idiots on the ESOP began to molest us....the free and open board was a positive thing. But to allow these obviously mentally ill people to scatter their hate and slander has made NACHI their tool.

I'm with you, James. Something has to be done.

I don't care about the criticisms aimed at me. But have been able to ignore most of them for years and continue with my business as usual. I am talking about the slanderous and libelous remarks that NACHI allows....under its copyright....to be Googled and spread to the world pertaining to individuals by the ESOP!

The psychotic minds behind the ESOP hate cannot be helped, but NACHI has a duty to clean the bottom of the bird cage every once in a while, IMO and should ensure the current ESOP is disband!

Yep James I agree!

Bored again, then visit:
http://www.gogetforum.com/?mforum=provincialcfihi
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