Shut-off valves

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by Frank Cece

Are you suggesting that a shut off valve for all fixtures regardless if they are not mandated by the OBC are useless?

No one said they were useless; they are a convenience but not required by codes nor required to be reported by the SOP. IMO, it is a small thing overall.

I'd much rather see interconnected, dual sensor smoke detectors with battery backup in all bedrooms, electrical panel rooms, laundry rooms, mechanical rooms or any other rooms with a closeable door that has an electric or combustion appliance (water heater, for example)......that would be a better use of extra funds!!!

From the SOP:
"N. And report the absence of smoke detectors."

We don't have to recommend a good system of detectors but I do!

[Claude Lawrenson]

Hello Frank - glad to see you join in the discussions here!
I am still at it and working on new inspection courses.
Best Regards, Claude

[relliott]

Originally Posted by Frank Cece

You are big on code big guy. Slow down with the bull, next thing you know you will drown in it.



I rest my case.

Good point
You hung yourself Brian.

[relliott]

Originally Posted by RHI Inspector

Hey Brian Looks like we drew a few slugs out from under the rotting vegetation. As far a shut off valves are concerned and seeing as they are not a code requirement nor an SOP issue how is it relevant to a homeowner, let alone defending the need in a court action brought on by a homeowner who feels they are are a requirement Mr. Elliot? And Mario if you cannot add anything intelligent as is always the case with you SHUT UP. As for Mr. Cece another instant newbie expert!

So please enlighten me as to why you never report on lack of a floor sealant?

I could go on and on with this.

Listen up!

Would you rather hire a HI with your side on this or mine.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by relliott

So please enlighten me as to why you never report on lack of a floor sealant?

I could go on and on with this.

Listen up!

Would you rather hire a HI with you side on this or mine.

SO, Robert, do you include a photograph and commentary of every crack and drywall nailpop found during an inspection. Can get you nice and thick 50-60 page reports!!!

I've not been calling this as a big item, but do use a comment in passing when new houses don't have a full compliment of shut-offs (but only have the code required valves) for 26 years now. I've not had a complaint about this item......even once!! Should the client run out, hire a plumber to put them in when they take possession....no, I don't recommend that.....if they want to....it's now their house....go ahead.

If the client buys the house knowing there are a few maintenance items to be done such as repointing and reflashing the chimney, why should they be really concerned about no shut-offs under some of the sinks?

[Brian A. MacNeish]

"As for Mr. Cece another instant newbie expert!"

Funny thing happened as Franky Baby appeared on the scene........ All the Inspector Inspector (from Pickering) posts have disappeared and Cranky Franky (from Woodbridge) appeared!! How honest is this man? A snake who can't be truthful and chooses poor people to crony with!!

Franky...go do some inspections!!

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Frank Cece

Is it true that you are Raymond Wand?
You do realize that using the RHI designation can land you in hot water don't you? Last I heard you were expelled from OAHI, something to do with you and Roy Cooke steeling money from OAHI, 65K from what I hear. Is that how you purchased your farm house? The past always has a way of catching up with you.

BTW Who are you calling a newbie boy? You are not fit to carry my ladder boy.

Frank,

It looks like you struck a nerve with this goof ball!!

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Can everyone give the brian macneish AKA THE SNAKE red please! He most certainly doesn't deserve the rep he currently has. lol

Thanks

off to work, see you all tonight.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Can everyone give the brian macneish AKA THE SNAKE red please! He most certainly doesn't deserve the rep he currently has. lol

Thanks

off to work, see you all tonight.

AHH!!! Just like clockwork......the obssession continues. So predictable, so powerful......big boy!!

Mario, don't forget your gun!!! It's wery, wery dangerous out there, especially with the people your attracting....... like flies to a pile of ....!!!

BTW: Nice tags your adding.....sounds like a 13 year old.......did you ever get past grade 8.......yes?????? Your mind didn't!!!

[relliott]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

SO, Robert, do you include a photograph and commentary of every crack and drywall nailpop found during an inspection. Can get you nice and thick 50-60 page reports!!!

I've not been calling this as a big item, but do use a comment in passing when new houses don't have a full compliment of shut-offs (but only have the code required valves) for 26 years now. I've not had a complaint about this item......even once!! Should the client run out, hire a plumber to put them in when they take possession....no, I don't recommend that.....if they want to....it's now their house....go ahead.

If the client buys the house knowing there are a few maintenance items to be done such as repointing and reflashing the chimney, why should they be really concerned about no shut-offs under some of the sinks?

I note standard practice and best practice items.

Brian please bear in mind that I do not work for the state, but for the clients and their interests.

I encourage the use of blue tape (remember my nick names is Condo Bob for a reason).

Standard practice is to install shutoffs in the cabinets as an example think of a toilet with a sloan valve that will not shutoff and the property owner or guest is neededing to run down to ,who knows where to make an emergency shutoff.
Remember not all people have our knowledge and could spend all day not figuring out how to cut it.

Do I tell them to run out and hire a plumber today ? No

I inform as to what would be best for a better dwelling environment.
Guess you would hate me if I tell you that I even call out missing cabinet door pads and often have 50 page reports with a Maintainance and tip section.

Easier to read than most though because I include a summery which notates with a click where to see the detail if desired.

That long detailed report is the key to success.

They want a simple punchlist . Fine, but I am flexible on these needs.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

AHH!!! Just like clockwork......the obssession continues. So predictable, so powerful......big boy!!

Mario, don't forget your gun!!! It's wery, wery dangerous out there, especially with the people your attracting....... like flies to a pile of ....!!!

BTW: Nice tags your adding.....sounds like a 13 year old.......did you ever get past grade 8.......yes?????? Your mind didn't!!!

Listen here boy,

Over your tenure here at NACHI [as a guest] your posts have degraded to Raymond Wands level and sometimes beyond. I must admit you had some members fooled for a short time with your BS advice, however your mask has fallen and your true colours are revealed. Don't underestimate the membership here NACHI macneish, they are ALL far more intelligent than you and the wand combined!
You both need to seek some professional help; I would if I were you, Thank God I'm not you or the wand!

[Claude Lawrenson]

Thanks Bob - now we are getting back on track. It makes perfect "common" sense.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Thanks Bob - now we are getting back on track. It makes perfect "common" sense.

Sorry about your thread going south Claude.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Frank Cece

Raymond Wand,

Where I'm from, you would have been my ***** by now.

Frank,

Do me a favour, STOP responding to these goofs, Raymond Wand and Brian MacNeish. I'm done with them as of now. They crack me up but they take up far too much of my energy and time, besides we encourage them to post.
They live in the sticks without much to do and this form of communication is all they have, in a way I feel sorry for both of them.