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Old 11/16/10, 6:15 PM
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ok. this is a stupid one, but i can't find an answer so i'll ask here

1- the canadian gouv. recongnize the CMI logo, ok this i get. does it also recognize any other associations or logos

or

2-it does not matter the association you belong too, if you have that CMI you are recognized by the Federal gouv.

thx in advance

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Old 11/16/10, 11:36 PM
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ok. this is a stupid one, but i can't find an answer so i'll ask here

1- the canadian gouv. recongnize the CMI logo, ok this i get. does it also recognize any other associations or logos

or

2-it does not matter the association you belong too, if you have that CMI you are recognized by the Federal gouv.

thx in advance
Patrick,

Logo's are trademaked so that no one else can use them.

It has nothing to do with its purpose being recognized by our government.



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ok. this is a stupid one, but i can't find an answer so i'll ask here

1- the canadian gouv. recongnize the CMI logo, ok this i get. does it also recognize any other associations or logos

or

2-it does not matter the association you belong too, if you have that CMI you are recognized by the Federal gouv.

thx in advance

Dr. S&M (Spin & Mislead) tried to imply that the trademark "CMI" was recognized by Canadian "authorities"...........The trademark office cannot recognize anyone in the home inspection field based on their training, experience and certifcation but only protects the "CMI" designation to those allowed to use it through MICB........they don't care what CMI means or implies.............period!

If you wanted to think up a new designation of say "Certified New Home Inspector" and trademark it for your own use, you could do it through the Trademark office of the federal government (if that designation wasn't already trademark protected by someone already). It's just that simple.........no training in new home inspection required!!
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Old 11/17/10, 3:09 PM
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Old 11/17/10, 3:58 PM
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ok. this is a stupid one, but i can't find an answer so i'll ask here

1- the canadian gouv. recongnize the CMI logo, ok this i get. does it also recognize any other associations or logos

or

2-it does not matter the association you belong too, if you have that CMI you are recognized by the Federal gouv.

thx in advance
It is better recoginised then any other LOGO .

Clients love it and those Home Inspectors who have it are very happy .
I am sure you read the Qualifications total of 1,000 hours /Inspections.
http://www.certifiedmasterinspector.org/

There seems to be a few who are slamming the system , I just they are jealious and do not want to admit how well the CMI Trade Mark works.
http://www.certifiedmasterinspector....trademark.html



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Old 11/17/10, 6:13 PM
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It is better recoginised then any other LOGO .
You wish!! Even though I don't have the designation, I believe that RHI is much better recognized.


Clients love it and those Home Inspectors who have it are very happy .
I am sure you read the Qualifications total of 1,000 hours /Inspections.
http://www.certifiedmasterinspector.org/

There seems to be a few who are slamming the system , I just they are jealious and do not want to admit how well the CMI Trade Mark works.
http://www.certifiedmasterinspector....trademark.html
Roy:

There are INACHI members who slam the CMI designation. Just 7 days ago on these boards......

"I have the master inspector designation and I feel 1000 inspections should not qualify me as a master."

The poster had earlier suggested 5000+ inspections should the standard for Master Inspector.

Others have called the CMI a "marketing gimmick" only.......leading the public on to believe you have a way more experience and knowledge than you actually do!! Remember......these were INACHI members.

At least 10 years in the field and 2500 inspections would be a good starting point......not simply 3 years in the field and hours of CE instruction + inspections adding to 1000.....

MORE S&M.....being taught by the Dr.

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Old 11/17/10, 6:25 PM
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I have both and when I say to the client I am a CMI their eyes Light up . It works and we did an inspection in Kingston and the First thing the agent asked are you people CMIs and she looked for the Crest and said Great I was sure you where ,I am Happy now .
Too bad NACHI is the greatest but it too has a few who are just a little dissatisfied .
If you have the time take a look at OAHI RHIs and you will see many are also CMIs . They also know how much better it is the RHI .

Roy Cooke RHI/CMI ,...I can use both and you can use neither.
WE also have three in our Company who are RHI/CMI



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Old 11/17/10, 8:46 PM
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I have both and when I say to the client I am a CMI their eyes Light up . It works and we did an inspection in Kingston and the First thing the agent asked are you people CMIs and she looked for the Crest and said Great I was sure you where ,I am Happy now .
Too bad NACHI is the greatest but it too has a few who are just a little dissatisfied .
If you have the time take a look at OAHI RHIs and you will see many are also CMIs . They also know how much better it is the RHI .

Roy Cooke RHI/CMI ,...I can use both and you can use neither.
WE also have three in our Company who are RHI/CMI
These folks obviously have no idea about the HI industry. Over time, they will see the S&M that is being foisted on them!

As you have run down OAHI and RHI in the past when the Grow Ops program was in the news, why are you bragging it up now??
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Old 11/17/10, 8:57 PM
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These folks obviously have no idea about the HI industry. Over time, they will see the S&M that is being foisted on them! ( "gee you have a problem did they give you the wrong perscription CMI is growing RHI is shrinking .")

As you have run down OAHI and RHI in the past when the Grow Ops program was in the news, why are you bragging it up now??
Gee I must be out of step I thought Grow Ops where still in the news ,thanks for the upgrade.
Brian please go back and read slow so it sinks in a bit .
I have run down the OAHI directors as they have not and are not doing things correctly .
I just might know a little more then you on How things are in the Ontario Home Inspection industry .
I am not like you Mr. Know every thing in an instant.
What have you done for the home Inspection industry in the last 10 years.
Brian do you ever have any thing nice to say .



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Old 11/17/10, 10:49 PM
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Gather up all the professional designations, association logos, government licenses, membership levels, and certifications you can find. Lay them all out on your Aunt Wilma's dining room table. Ask her which one she thinks belongs to the very best inspector.

You'll get the same answer everyone else gets when they do this market research.

Certified Master Inspector... Even Aunt Wilma recognizes it's the best.



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Old 11/17/10, 10:56 PM
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MY aunt Wilma was a lot smarter then Many people I know .
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Old 11/18/10, 7:37 AM
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Gather up all the professional designations, association logos, government licenses, membership levels, and certifications you can find. Lay them all out on your Aunt Wilma's dining room table. Ask her which one she thinks belongs to the very best inspector.

You'll get the same answer everyone else gets when they do this market research.

Certified Master Inspector... Even Aunt Wilma recognizes it's the best.
Come on, Nick your smarter members with personal integrity know the difference, state it and question the CMI designation............ A MARKETING GIMMICK being thrown at a not so savvy public........you know this and have no respect for the end user. At three years experience and the 1000 "points", an HI is still a newbie (and one of the lucky 10% to still be in business).

BTW, would this place survive without the flow through of the other 90% of wannabe newbies?..............I don't think so!! I checked on a older thread where one of the members defended you and NACHI, railed at myself and Mark Shunk (a former non-member great poster)......checked the HI register.......he's no longer a member!!! Typical!!
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Old 11/18/10, 7:47 AM
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Gee Bill Mullen said he wanted to be taken off the CMI list .
I guess you finally got your Friend?Bill so upset he resigned from NACHI and CMI too.
Just as well, he never did get the NACHI name on his web site even after stating he would three times .
Members like him do not like to stay with NACHI ,especially when he complains about Nick and NACHI so much.
Most CMIs do apprecite the CMI very much and know how much it adds to our business .!!!!!!



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Brian, one of the purposes of any professional designation is... marketing. This is news to you?

Certified Master Inspector
is the inspection industry's highest professional designation. Ask your Aunt Wilma.

Say what you want... CMI works.



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Gee Bill Mullen said he wanted to be taken off the CMI list .
I guess you finally got your Friend?Bill so upset he resigned from NACHI and CMI too.
Just as well, he never did get the NACHI name on his web site even after stating he would three times .
Members like him do not like to stay with NACHI ,especially when he complains about Nick and NACHI so much.
Most CMIs do apprecite the CMI very much and know how much it adds to our business .!!!!!!
........whether they are truly a master at HI or not. Some of the questions asked by the newer CMI's here definitely indicate that they are far from being masters!! At the rate they appear to be increasing, CMI's will be soon competing with CMI's.

Good ole NACHI.......

"Brothers helping brothers compete against brothers"........ so Nick can make some $$$$$$......... and they might be able to stay in business longer than a year or two!
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