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Old 11/22/06, 8:02 PM
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Everyone who are not members of Nachi seem to think that by passing the online exam you automatically become a Certified Home Inspector. All the online exam allows you to do, along with a host of other requirements, is allow you to become a member of Nachi. If you want to hold yourself out as a home inspector and hang up a shingle without any training and experience, have at it and good luck. My membership in Nachi was just a business decision on my part. I could not see where joining OAHI was going to do anything for me as an inspector. Nachi has and will continue to grow because of the benefits of belonging to the association. I see no benefit in joining Oahi. I would join CAHPI if they would let me but that is verbotten as I would have to join Oahi to become a member. Thanks but no thanks. I am sure OAHI has it's good points, I just can't see them. Besides, we can't even call ourselves CHI's as this is protected in Canada. Certified Master Inspector is a designation that to me is harder to attain than RHI. Why is it that you may call yourself RHI without any training what so ever anywhere in Canada except Ontario
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Old 11/22/06, 8:03 PM
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Ray,

If you look at that screen you are talking about you can read what it says underneath:

"Please note that passing this exam in NO WAY CERTIFIES YOU AS AN INSPECTOR" right on her own video.



Passing doesn't make you a certified inspector even if you haven't committed a fraud, it sure as heck doesn't make you a certified inspector if you did commit a fraud.



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Old 11/22/06, 8:07 PM
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Ray,

If you look at that screen you are talking about you can read what it says underneath:

"Please note that passing this exam in NO WAY CERTIFIES YOU AS AN INSPECTOR" right on her own video.

Your forgetting, Nick, those of us who are certified know exactly what's required to become certified. The quiz she got 91% on is the hardest part (I got 96%, by the way). The rest is a cake walk.

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Old 11/22/06, 8:09 PM
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Look,

1. She is incorrect about becoming certified by passing an exam.
2. She admits to using professional help in order to pass.
3. NACHI's entrance requirements are the toughest of all associations.

I'm going to leave it at that.



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Yes but they are not inspecting therefore there is no issue, they only committed fraud on Nachi, not a member of the public in their deceptive action. Of course your opinions are only your opinions, and remain so until there is proof to back up your personal opinions right?

In other words we know that CAHPI and OAHI entry requirements do not keep out the rift raft.
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Old 11/22/06, 8:21 PM
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3. NACHI's entrance requirements are the toughest of all associations.
I'm going to leave it at that.
But who cares, really? Not to offend, but all that matters is "certification" requirements, not entrance requirements. When I hire an Engineer, I don't care what requirements were placed on him to join his association, only what he had to do to become a P.Eng.

This is another example of where you focus on what's not important while refusing to see the problem. That reporter didn't get certified with BCIPI because she can't, not by fraud, not by cheating, not by anything but doing the work and becoming a professional home inspector the same as everyone else there.

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Yes but they are not inspecting therefore there is no issue, they only committed fraud on Nachi, not a member of the public in their deceptive action. Of course your opinions are only your opinions, and remain so until there is proof to back up your personal opinions right?
In other words we know that CAHPI and OAHI entry requirements do not keep out the rift raft.
Again with the entrance requirements. Who cares. What keeps out the rift raft is the prerequisite education and other real requirements that must be completed to earn your certification.

As for the reporter not inspecting, you miss the point again. If she can get in, then so can any guy with the notion of inspecting, whether he knows what he's doing or not. That's the point and the problem.

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What keeps out the rift raft is the prerequisite education and other real requirements that must be completed to earn your certification.
Sorry, the evidence suggest otherwise. If we look at OAHI the records indicate OAHI has had its fair share of what could be describe as incompetent inspectors. The requirements are to ensure a minimum benchmark is met. The onus to keep out the rift raft certainly does not lie with management that responsibility lies with the members and what they will tolerate.
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I don't know enough about them to argue with you so lets leave it at that. My feeling is that anyone who has to go through a professional system of certification rather than an online quiz and some other online things is far more likely to come out the other end a better professional.

I doubt you'd hire a lawyer or doctor or plumber who got his certification by passing the same quiz as a television reporter.

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NACHI, which requires 4 courses, over 30 quizzes, 4 exams, and 4 mock inspections within the first 60 days of membership plus annual testing and 24 hours of continuing education per year, soon to increase to 30 hours per year

How do you ensure this is being followed?
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Old 11/22/06, 9:19 PM
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Excellent advertisement for NACHI.
Geez John, I would hate to know what you think qualifies as "bad" advertising.
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How do you ensure this is being followed?
Good question for Nick. To the best of my somewhat limited knowledge I don't believe it is ever enforced or there is any mechanism for doing that. I believe the Chinese call it a paper tiger
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Old 11/22/06, 9:25 PM
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Geez John, I would hate to know what you think qualifies as "bad" advertising.
Years ago Charlie Goodyear said when they are talking about me they are advertising me .
Looks like it worked for him .
His company is still going making a lot of Goodyear tires.
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Old 11/22/06, 9:34 PM
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Years ago Charlie Goodyear said when they are talking about me they are advertising me .
Looks like it worked for him .
His company is still going making a lot of Goodyear tires.
Roy Cooke I have 8 Goodyear snow tires on my cars

Didn't they just shut the Goodyear plant in Kitchener down?

People hear something over and over, good or bad, right or wrong, they start believeing it over time. So I guess it really matters what they are saying about you, and not just that they are talking about you.

Alot of people talked about Ghandi, but alot of people talked about Hitler as well.

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