International Association of Certified Home Inspectors

~~Brian A. MacNeish~~ · #1 10/27/08, 10:30 PM

these types of inspectors:

REDUCED HOURS STARTING NOVEMBER 3RD.
I will be switching to WINTER HOURS on November 3rd and will only be doing inspections on Saturdays and Sundays due to the lack of day light for evening inspections until the spring when I return to regular working hours (yeah! 6 PM after work inspections). Please ensure you check my calendar for available times and dates before you book your inspection.

This is a cheaply and easily INACHI certified part-timer with a regular job that full timers have to compete against.......yet it meets Nickey's aims/goals......create a large number's of wannabe's with cheap overnight certification and the vendors will go crazy for the system*!!!

* The system......work maybe....1,2,3 years as an HI and then have to jump off the merry-go-round so another customer for the vendors can jump on for a few turns so that they can ply you with their wares............ and it goes round and round and round......

Statement from recent "Nachi Member-of-the-Year":

"Presently less than 30% of new HI's will be around in 3 years".

As HI's #'s increase at very high rates due to diploma mills (the largest being here), this % of success will decrease as the field becomes even more oversaturated!!!

Russell J. Hensel · #2 10/27/08, 10:33 PM

If you are "competing" against this guy then you must just suck as bad AS HE DOES!

William R. DeVries, CMHI · #3 10/27/08, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

these types of inspectors:

REDUCED HOURS STARTING NOVEMBER 3RD.
I will be switching to WINTER HOURS on November 3rd and will only be doing inspections on Saturdays and Sundays due to the lack of day light for evening inspections until the spring when I return to regular working hours (yeah! 6 PM after work inspections). Please ensure you check my calendar for available times and dates before you book your inspection.

This is a cheaply and easily INACHI certified part-timer with a regular job that full timers have to compete against.......yet it meets Nickey's aims/goals......create a large number's of wannabe's with cheap overnight certification and the vendors will go crazy for the system*!!!

* The system......work maybe....1,2,3 years as an HI and then have to jump off the merry-go-round so another customer for the vendors can jump on for a few turns so that they can ply you with their wares............ and it goes round and round and round......

Statement from recent "Nachi Member-of-the-Year":

"Presently less than 30% of new HI's will be around in 3 years".

As HI's #'s increase at very high rates due to diploma mills (the largest being here), this % of success will decrease as the field becomes even more oversaturated!!!

Hey Brian I ran into your wannabe today, funny is the only Association he contacted was CAPHI/ONT, they told him to send in $XXX.xx and as a student to go out and do 150 inspections while he was doing the education part. He was in the trades as a labourer and felt he could do the business.
Funny how even a nobody could be your compitition if he lived in your neck of the woods.
Let's just say that If you consider this your compitition, we need to get you a mentor and some HI experience.

**Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI** · #4 10/27/08, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rhensel

If you are "competing" against this guy then you must just suck as bad AS HE DOES!

Agreed Russell!!!!
Comments like this will allways get you green with me!!

I suggest that all NACHI members give this non-member and
NACHI BASHER RED!!

hlowe · #5 10/27/08, 11:31 PM

If you guys doing all the complaining, would spend more time training, developing your inspecting skills, and marketing yourselves more aggressively; you wouldn't have to worry about the newbies!

Bill Mullen · #6 10/27/08, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wdevries

Hey Brian I ran into your wannabe today, funny is the only Association he contacted was CAPHI/ONT, they told him to send in $XXX.xx and as a student to go out and do 150 inspections while he was doing the education part. He was in the trades as a labourer and felt he could do the business.
Funny how even a nobody could be your compitition if he lived in your neck of the woods.
Let's just say that If you consider this your compitition, we need to get you a mentor and some HI experience.

Bill:

You know I am not a fan of OAHI or CAHPI Ontario as you call them. However, if we are criticizing anyone we should use true facts. OAHI does NOT ALLOW its students to perform inspections. That is stated very clearly in the rules. I'm sure that some do so, but not with permission from OAHI. Members of OAHI are required to finish quite a list of accredited, recognized and verified educational requirements before they are told they have the association's blessing to practice.

Bill Mullen

PS: It really hurts to have to defend that group.

Bob Elliott · #7 10/28/08, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

these types of inspectors:

REDUCED HOURS STARTING NOVEMBER 3RD.
I will be switching to WINTER HOURS on November 3rd and will only be doing inspections on Saturdays and Sundays due to the lack of day light for evening inspections until the spring when I return to regular working hours (yeah! 6 PM after work inspections). Please ensure you check my calendar for available times and dates before you book your inspection.

This is a cheaply and easily INACHI certified part-timer with a regular job that full timers have to compete against.......yet it meets Nickey's aims/goals......create a large number's of wannabe's with cheap overnight certification and the vendors will go crazy for the system*!!!

* The system......work maybe....1,2,3 years as an HI and then have to jump off the merry-go-round so another customer for the vendors can jump on for a few turns so that they can ply you with their wares............ and it goes round and round and round......

Statement from recent "Nachi Member-of-the-Year":

"Presently less than 30% of new HI's will be around in 3 years".

As HI's #'s increase at very high rates due to diploma mills (the largest being here), this % of success will decrease as the field becomes even more oversaturated!!!

Do you have any facts to back up your comments.

Are you saying that ASHI wannabe's stick at a higher percentage rate?

NACHI education is far superior as even ASSI members admit too.

William R. DeVries, CMHI · #8 10/28/08, 1:41 AM

Bill;

As I said it was what he mentioned, but the site does say membership does require paid inspections also

Membership qualification is based on experience and formal education requirements. Members are expected to have a working knowledge of the Ontario Building Code, electrical/heating systems, and general defect recognition skills for the systems of residential occupancies and small buildings. Members need good oral and written communications skills and a broad knowledge of construction and building practices in Ontario. The three components for qualification are:

Baseline Accreditation - basic skills specific to the practice of home inspection.
Technical Background - education and experience related to building science.
Home Inspection Experience (Practical) - performing a minimum number of home inspections to OAHI Standards. Reports must be submitted by the applicant to the OAHI Verification Committee for assessment and evaluation to be certain that they meet the high standards of practice of the Association.

Given this I guess he figures he needs to go out and preform inspections along the way to get the requirements in order.

Guess it is how you read the spin on it.

But this was not the intent of the original message, that I was saying to Brian. It was that someone in this position and placement of his new HI career that Brian considers a threat.

Just because someone does not have an RHI does not mean they have not taken the required courses.Maybe they have, maybe they have surpassed the requirements, maybe they just didnt like assoc. and chose Nachi for what it has to offer.
But the brush you paint with Brian has a wide stroke, Please look at thinning it out some, Lots of inspectors here are full time Inspectors not part time.
every one is at a different stage of learning in this career, and every day is an educational one, at least for me I learn something new everyday and if I can pass some along even better.

Bill Mullen · #9 10/28/08, 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wdevries

Bill;

As I said it was what he mentioned, but the site does say membership does require paid inspections also

It says that indeed, but students are told in no uncertain terms that they may not do inspections while they are 'students'. The trip through the membership categories in OAHI is murky all right, but the 'student' requirements are very clear. Unfortunately, many people choose to 'accidentally' misinterpret the rules.

We shouldn't be too quick to blame everything on the associations. There are many individuals in our industry who are just not ethical, and that's sad.

In fact, at the risk of defending OAHI again, they are developing a mentoring program that people must take before doing even one inspection for an unsuspecting client.

Bill Mullen

~~Brian A. MacNeish~~ · #10 10/28/08, 9:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingston Reporter

Bill is right students are told they cannot do inspections! Which is hogwash if they happen to be members of Nachi or ASHI.

As to Mr. Lowe, weren't you the chap making false and misleading claims about your home inspection school with regard to income? And further it appears you are advertising Sharondale is an approved CMI School when it is not as evidenced by the CMI site listing approved schools.

And, if memory serves me correctly, Mr. Lowe had a past student post here within the last 6-10 months about his experiences with training at Sharondale......not much positive said!!!
http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/hi-tr...67/#post325353

Nick Gromicko · #11 10/28/08, 12:23 PM

Brian, my advice is to win. Nothing as fun as beating an opponent fair and square in the open market. But you can't do it swimming up stream. Make life easy... join InterNACHI. There is little sense in allowing all around you enjoy market advantages that you don't.

www.nachi.org/success.htm

ldapkus · #12 10/28/08, 1:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian, my advice is to win. Nothing as fun as beating an opponent fair and square in the open market. But you can't do it swimming up stream. Make life easy... join InterNACHI. There is little sense in allowing all around you enjoy market advantages that you don't.

www.nachi.org/success.htm

He can't pass the test Nick. He wants to join but can't get pass the test. Keep trying Brian. Mario would love to call you his InterNACHI brother.

Allen Cavdek · #13 10/28/08, 4:04 PM

I read a lot of posts here, dont make many comments, but the debating negative comments can go on and on and on,, there is no perfect schools for home inspectors,, there is no perfect home inspector organizations, there is no perfect governments, there is no perfect home inspectors
but any education mill as you would call them strive to produce teach and train home inspectors as best they can, organizations that certify us do the best of thier ability that we comply with the rules that they have.
No home inspector is perfect(or the best as some would call themeselves)
We should and must support one another being a new or seasoned home inspector, working to keep our reputation strong in the eyes of the public.
The complaining , negative and some unproffessional comments posted here on our canadian sites wont help us all ,, as one gentlemen put it here,,instead of just complaining about other home inspectors, diploma mills etc. we should just worry about how we are doing and how we are achieving success as home inspectors and how the public looks at us.
Remember !!!! complainers are the ones that are finding everything wrong with others because they are not doing the do things they should to be successful...Winners dont throw negativity at others.
thank you
Allen Cavdek
Inspect4u/Inspect4mold/ Consumers Choice Inspections

**Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI** · #14 10/28/08, 7:40 PM

MacNeish,

You should change the tittle of this thread to;

Thanks to NACHI and Nick's generosity you (the members) have to put up with ME!