who are these people ?

[lewens]

Ray
RHI is nothing more that a marketing ploy, not a very good one I will admit, and most likely not intended to be at the start but that is the way it has turned out. RHI means nothing to the public as most people do not know what the term means and further more could care less. Most people don't know the acronyms NACHI, OAHI or CAHPI. That is what we have to change and only through promoting our association will it change. If we at NACHI do a better job of it than OAHI we will be in a much stronger position. That is the focus of my involvment in the association. The benefits far outweigh the costs and giving back a little is my way of participating in the process.
Larry

[rwand1]

Larry,

Agreed! I salute your participation and stedfastness.

[Nick Gromicko]

I think I might be confused. There seems to be 2 offers from HIF. One offering a book "21 Things Every Home Inspector Should Know" which reads like a NACHI ad.

The other is an offer to NACHI members to join HIF at a discounted price.

With regards to the book (the first offer), NACHI has nothing to do with it. We are not behind this emailed offer. It did not come from us... although I'm pleased about it as the book puts NACHI in its deserved good light.

With regards to the discounted membership in HIF (the second offer), NACHI felt obligated to alert our members to it. Many might find it of value. I believe the page http://www.nachi.org/hif.htm has been there for some time. If you look at its placement on http://www.nachi.org/whatsnew3.htm (the oldest of our archived news pages) and type Control F, then Housing Inspect..., you will find that the HIF offer was made around January of 2005. Nothing new.

As for Canadian associations having some sort of lock on CHI or Registered Home Inspector.... forget about it. Not true, not true even in Canada. But who cares anyway.... CMI is much better.

[Nick Gromicko]

CAHI, the original applicant of the mark "Registered Home Inspectors (RHI)" had to include disclaimer text in their application: The right to the exclusive use of REGISTERED HOME INSPECTORS is disclaimed apart from the trade-mark. Which means that only the exact phrase "Registered Home Inspectors (RHI)" is protected. "Registered Home Inspectors" is not protected. There is logic behind CIPO's required disclaimer, that being that there are probably other associations who wish to register their inspectors and therefore want to call their members "Registered Home Inspectors." Therefore CIPO, with the disclaimer, kept the applicant from monopolizing the common phrase.

See http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/t...tIndexOnPage=1

[Yuri Olhovsky]

Originally Posted by gromicko

... CMI is much better.

Nick, BTW, what about Certificates for CMI designation? They should have been mailed out long time ago, but I still did not see it

[rwand1]

Hi Nick

Much of it has to do with NACHI being a free speech site. Our obligation to alert our members to all discounts being offered them overrides anything else we do. We let our members read the offer, read the posts, and make decisions for themselves.

Isn't that similar to Niem Marcus telling its customers to shop at Saks?
What is the benefit of promoting a competitor? Would you give NAHI the same billing or ASHI the same billing?

Just asking because your answer made me ask.

[rwand1]

Nicked stated...

As for Canadian associations having some sort of lock on CHI or Registered Home Inspector.... forget about it. Not true, not true even in Canada. But who cares anyway.... CMI is much better.

Well you have a problem with Registered Home Inspector being used in Ontario. PR 158 which is enacted legislation granting the use of RHI to OAHI.

From the act...

(2) Any person in Ontario who, not being a registered member of the Association, takes or uses the designation “Registered Home Inspector”
or “R.H.I.“, alone or in combination with any other word, name, title, initial or description, or implies, suggests or holds out that that
person is a registered home inspector is guilty of an offence.

(3) On conviction of an offence under subsection
(2), a person is liable to a fine of not more than $5,000.

[rwand1]

Hi Yuri,

Designations will be irrelevant come licencing.

[Nick Gromicko]

Raymond, the answer to your question is YES. If NAHI or ASHI had some offer they wanted us to present to our members, we would do it.

NACHI member's intrests come first and we believe that NACHI members are best served by making ALL offers known to them.... even offers from NAHI or ASHI.

We already have a history of doing this. For instance, we offer free booths to competing associations at all our conventions.

[wforsyth]

Why are there so many incomplete posts with the same time stamp?

[Nick Gromicko]

I don't know, I got kicked on and off or something.

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Hiccups?

[Nick Gromicko]

Fixed.

[wforsyth]

Oooh sooo much nicer.

[Nick Gromicko]

Anyway, not only will NACHI present inspection-related offers and/or press releases to our members from other associations.... the other associations like NAHI or ASHI or CREIA or AII or FABI or Canadian Associations can do it themselves right here on this message board. We have no problem with that.