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Old 12/19/06, 11:12 PM
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Irregardless of what some may think - there are many that pursue a career in home inspection. Certainly like inspectors the courses/programs come in all shapes, sizes, good, bad, mediocre and cheap and costly!

It's a great starting place for one trying to get a better understanding not of just the home inspection profession, but the necessary technical background that will make one much more complete with the what, the hows and the whys.

Like Steven, certainly some here may say that I am bias because I also teach in the college system in Ontario. There are good programs available both in the college system and also by private training schools too! But I believe in you generally get what you pay for.

Equally - it goes without saying that the major downfall of the business side of home inspections is problem solving, defect recognition, reporting and assuring that the job was well done. If not - an inspector can readily be sued! It's an unfortunate fact of our job. It's simply a high risk business trying to get a better idea on properties we generally have very little exposure or knowledge about.

Many part-timers also enter the profession, between jobs or waiting for an opportunity to leave their old one.

Anyways - wishing you the best - and there is nothing wrong with pursuing your dreams, even if it is on a part-time scenario.



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Old 12/20/06, 12:08 AM
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Good idea Darrell, Also a follow up regards to the meeting with the Gov't would be great. For those of you that didn't attend the Edmonton meeting you missed out on some great info. Please make plans to attend the next meeting coming soon.

Darrell let me know when you want to put something together for Southern Alberta. The soooner the better.
Someone asked for the next meeting to be held in
Calgary.

Maybe you could have a go.
Maybe the mould course Nick was talking about.

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Old 12/20/06, 7:50 AM
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Irregardless of what some may think - there are many that pursue a career in home inspection. Certainly like inspectors the courses/programs come in all shapes, sizes, good, bad, mediocre and cheap and costly!

It's a great starting place for one trying to get a better understanding not of just the home inspection profession, but the necessary technical background that will make one much more complete with the what, the hows and the whys.

Like Steven, certainly some here may say that I am bias because I also teach in the college system in Ontario. There are good programs available both in the college system and also by private training schools too! But I believe in you generally get what you pay for.

Equally - it goes without saying that the major downfall of the business side of home inspections is problem solving, defect recognition, reporting and assuring that the job was well done. If not - an inspector can readily be sued! It's an unfortunate fact of our job. It's simply a high risk business trying to get a better idea on properties we generally have very little exposure or knowledge about.

Many part-timers also enter the profession, between jobs or waiting for an opportunity to leave their old one.

Anyways - wishing you the best - and there is nothing wrong with pursuing your dreams, even if it is on a part-time scenario.
Regardless what Claude says , the Ontario Association and the colleges say they are filling niche .
My personal Openion and it is backed up by figures ,they are only out to make money.
They turn out many home inspectors who have invested a lot of time and money to find there is room for only a extremely small amount to make a living at Home Inspections.
They try to Pooh Pooh those who try to let the public know that these people are not telling the whole story.
Example OAHI has been constantly at just over the 200 level of RHIs for many many years .
They have alternated around the 500 mark of students and associates for a long time .
Now tell me why have the colleges and OAHI not told these poor souls who are investing much time and money that the odds of them making a good living ore extremely small,
Yes some make it to the top .
If as the Colleges and OAHI keep selling this great rainbow in the sky , why do they not have more RHIs after 14 years then they do now .
Could it be the closed door policy of OAHI/CAHPI.
At least here at NACHI the truth gets told .
Much to the chagrin of those rainbow pushers.


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Old 12/20/06, 8:56 AM
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ROY! PLEASE!
The use of words such as "POOH - POOH" only serves to lower the level of discussion. We are not children in the school yard. In a public forum, such as this one, we are expected to conduct ourselves as ADULTS. Home inspectors use a vocabulary suited to their standing as professionals. "POOH - POOH" is just not appropriate.

I am sure that in the future you will be able to find words that do not reflect poorly on both yourself and N.A.C.H.I. in Canada.
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Old 12/20/06, 10:26 AM
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ROY! PLEASE!
The use of words such as "POOH - POOH" only serves to lower the level of discussion. We are not children in the school yard. In a public forum, such as this one, we are expected to conduct ourselves as ADULTS. Home inspectors use a vocabulary suited to their standing as professionals. "POOH - POOH" is just not appropriate.

I am sure that in the future you will be able to find words that do not reflect poorly on both yourself and N.A.C.H.I. in Canada.
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I expect my spelling will be wrong but would mer de po be closer .
Thanks for the reminder .

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Old 12/20/06, 11:10 AM
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mgoupil,
to be brutally frank with you the last thing this industry needs is another part time inspector. The reality is that real estate agents needing an inspection will call you once or twice if you are unavailable due to your other work commitments they won't call again. Either get in full time or stay out, but that may only be my humble opinion. You cannot give 100% of your attention to two jobs. Think carfully before you take this step and potentially waste alot of your money time and energy. However, it's your money to waste.
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Old 12/20/06, 11:27 AM
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Steven,
having been in the educational field for 13 years, as you stated, means little to me. All it shows me, is that you appear to be supporting the BS educators feed alot of the people who are thinking of getting into this business. I feel just like Chuck and Roy that it is high time newbee's are getting informed of the realities. The fact that you don't seem to like the brutal truth can't be helped, but it doen't change the reality. How long have you been a home inspector and are you operating full time?
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Old 12/20/06, 10:50 PM
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do any of you people ever agree with eachother or do you just argue about everything
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Old 12/20/06, 11:05 PM
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It's called debate and you get more then one side of the topic.
Most view points are based on personal experience.
You get to make a fully informed dicision because you have lots to choose from
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Old 12/21/06, 1:12 AM
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Mgoupil,
Vern is quiet correct, but personal view points are not just rooted in personal experiences, but also the experience of time some of us have spent in this business and what we have learned along the way. How you would like to spend your money and time is totaly up to you. However, if it was me looking for a business now, and I had the amount of information at hand that is available to you, I would never get into this business again today. But as I already said, it's your money and time.
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Old 12/21/06, 6:07 AM
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do any of you people ever agree with eachother or do you just argue about everything
You can call it arguing we call it discussing.
Much great information is continually traded by all.

You will see we do not always agree but like brothers please do not get between us you will see most of us stand strong together.

I prefer to be part of an association thats allows open discussion and free expresion .
Have been a member of another association where all must follow the leader or get expelled, I do not think this will ever happen at NACHI.

Education ,camaraderie,help ,love and trading of information to me is far Superior with NACHI then any other group I have seen.

Where can you ask the questions you have asked here.

Where else can you be told the truth like it is told here.

Agree or disagree your thoughts are welcome ,
try this else where ( not allowed )

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Old 12/21/06, 7:19 AM
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do any of you people ever agree with eachother or do you just argue about everything
Mark

We are HI's, we are very opinionated by nature.

I don't know if you have a College that has a Course for Home Inspection in your area but try Humber College they have an excellent on-line program.





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Old 12/21/06, 10:05 AM
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"do any of you people ever agree with eachother or do you just argue about everything"

Fair question.

We 'argue' about most things actually and that is the strength of this association; free speech. Like any random group of people a certain number will agree on almost any topic, and a certain number will not. It is just human nature.

I find the presentation of differing views to be most interesting. You must also understand the nature of the internet. It is very easy to post your thoughts and remarks but that does not mean that the reader is able to 'see your voice' What you might type with a grin can come off looking like a tirade. And what you are most exorcised about can come off as a joke.

About the only thing we can all agree on is that I am the paramount Inspector in Canada. Right guys? . . . Guys? . . . . Uh, Hello? . . . .HeelllooOOooo?
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Old 12/21/06, 7:36 PM
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"do any of you people ever agree with eachother or do you just argue about everything"

Fair question.

We 'argue' about most things actually and that is the strength of this association; free speech. Like any random group of people a certain number will agree on almost any topic, and a certain number will not. It is just human nature.

I find the presentation of differing views to be most interesting. You must also understand the nature of the internet. It is very easy to post your thoughts and remarks but that does not mean that the reader is able to 'see your voice' What you might type with a grin can come off looking like a tirade. And what you are most exorcised about can come off as a joke.

About the only thing we can all agree on is that I am the paramount Inspector in Canada. Right guys? . . . Guys? . . . . Uh, Hello? . . . .HeelllooOOooo?
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Now that's funny!!!





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Old 12/21/06, 8:11 PM
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Mark

We are HI's, we are very opinionated by nature.

I don't know if you have a College that has a Course for Home Inspection in your area but try Humber College they have an excellent on-line program.
I think a few of us could try HUMBLE COLLEGE...

"About the only thing we can all agree on is that I am the paramount Inspector in Canada. Right guys? . . . Guys? . . . . Uh, Hello? . . . .HeelllooOOooo? "

Except for George, he's got it straight..



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