It wasn't a threat... it was an alert so that he didn't lose his home.

[Nick Gromicko]

Our attorneys were about to bury this nut in litigation, take his home, and turn it into another NACHI hands-on training center for inspectors.

I intervened to help the poor guy by reminding him that even in Canada, the only defense to libel is truth.

He now calls my help a threat.

http://www.theco.ca/page168.htm

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

I don't want to read his long message. What was the libel issue?

[rdiehl]

He does all that for 400-1000 dollars, is that Canadian Dollars, that guy must be nuts.

[phinsperger]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Our attorneys were about to bury this nut in litigation, take his home, and turn it into another NACHI hands-on training center for inspectors.

I intervened to help the poor guy by reminding him that even in Canada, the only defense to libel is truth.

He now calls my help a threat.

http://www.theco.ca/page168.htm

Nick, The attorneys operate under your direction. Winding up to take a swing at someone and stopping before you hit them does not make you a hero as you are trying to portray.

[rwand1]

Well he does make some pretty big unsubstantiate comments on his site.

Seeing as he is a member of BCIPI which is ASTT(BC) which is the parent association which has been threatening Nachi members who use CHI I think and I would suggest that Nachi send a very strongly worded lawyers letter to BCIPI and ASTT complaining about this members statements which seem to be at odds with the policies and the COE of these two associations.

After all this inspector has relied on hear-say from another person and published that hear-say as gospel.

In any eventuality he obviously cannot defend what he stated otherwise he would have held fast. Seeing as he has now reconsidered he obviously has not been entirely truthful.

Even without a Realtor touting this persons services there is no way I would allow as a vendor this chap in my house for 7 hours. You can be dam sure he is a nit picker, and just looking to justify his overated self esteem.

I guess BCIPI and ASTT like to throw their weight around about their designation, but it would also appear they to as an organization have their fair share of mules!

Thanks Nick for taming the Shrew.

[rwand1]

Consumers should not be confused by home inspector "certifications" offered by, or sold by home inspection trade societies or companies, obtained via home study courses, or provided by home inspection companies that certify their own home inspectors.

He still can't get it straight. CAHPI certifies its own inspectors because it has no legislation, it is self regulating, it reports to itself, and accredits it own! There are several OAHI-CAHPI members offering home inspection courses certifying their own.

So again he is not being truthful with the info, now is he?

[rwand1]

Want another good laugh?
http://www.theco.ca/page133.htm
"Open House" Inspections"

Statements which I think are questionable..

During and after the inspection Ted will discuss the findings including cost estimating and remedial advice. You will also be given a captioned photo summary of his investigation.

Strange indeed. He has no authorization to photo anything of a listed house for sale, not from the vendors, not from the agents. How would you feel if you had your house for sale and there was an open house and people came through taking pictures? Never to be seen again? That is definetly an invasion of privacy!

T.H.E. Open House Inspection process exceeds most other standard inspections.

Now that takes the cake!

Does his association condone this? Do the owners listing their property know that there properties are being photographed without their permission given that there is no contractual terms between any of the parties, let alone an offer to purchase with an inspection clause?

How can a professional body such as BCIPI condone this sort of activity, when it apparently is set up to oversee its members, I bet dollars to donuts they would not like to hear of this sort of activity taking place by one of their members who claims to be far superior and intellectually superior.

I think this chaps ego is bigger then his associations under which he agreed to play by the rules.

[rwand1]

From what I can read and find on this site, the ASTT act provides only for designations under the Act. It does not appear that BCIPI is a body granted authority under any Provincial Act but rather is a sub group set up by ASTT.

Now maybe someone in BC would like to correct me or add their opinions or know of an Act representing BCIPI. If there is no specific legislation then BCIPI would appear not to have the weight it assumes it does under ASTT.

Opinions anyone? I am always willing to be challenged and corrected!

Certification - House & Property Inspection
How to Become Certified as a House or Property Inspector

Your qualifications and experience are positively evaluated by the ASTTBC Board of Examiners. This Board is made up of senior volunteers, including practitioners from industry and post secondary educators. Before being granted a technical specialist certification as a House or Property Inspector, you are assessed for registration with ASTTBC as an Associate, Certified Technician (CTech) or Applied Science Technologist (AScT).
To get certified as a House or Property Inspector you need to obtain the applicable application forms and information sheets which are available from ASTTBC. Certification is granted by a Board of Examiners and ASTTBC staff cannot provide prior analysis on how a potential applicant's experience might qualify for certification. Before contacting the ASTTBC office to discuss whether you meet certification requirements, it is essential you review the application form in detail, go through the Question and Answer sheet that is provided, and check into the courses required. Once you have read this information, staff will be pleased to discuss the details of your application.

Education & Training

To become a Certified Property Inspector (CPI), currently you must be a certified member of ASTTBC in a traditional engineering discipline and have taken House & Property Inspection courses as well as Commercial
courses (or equivalent) and the BC Building Code: Part 9 course at the British Columbia Institute of Technology. A certified member of ASTTBC is a Certified Technician (CTech) who has a Certificate of Technology (or equivalent), or an Applied Science Technologist (AScT) who has a Diploma in Technology (or equivalent).To become a Certified House Inspector (CHI), currently you must be at least an Associate Member of ASTTBC, meaning at least Grade 12 (or equivalent), and have taken House & Property Inspection courses (or equivalent) and BC Building Building Code: Part 9 at BCIT.Academic competencies and capabilities that can be definitively shown to have been achieved through work experience will be recognized at the discretion of the Board of Examiners.
Please note that certification requirements are subject to amendment by the Council of ASTTBC.

Requirements

Effective: January, 2005
1. Inspector-in-Training
1.1 A person who has applied to the ASTTBC Board of Examiners (Board)and who has not as yet acquired the academic and experience qualifications for certification as either an Associate, Certified House Inspector (CHI) or Certified Property Inspector (CPI). An IIT must maintain an ASTTBC Career Log and is not approved to offer services to the public. No designation is awarded until you have been accepted into ASTTBC membership. The individual is responsible for providing educational agencies with proof of exemptions from courses as provided in writing by the Board.

2. Associate Inspector
An Associate Inspector is a temporary classification during which it is expected that a Registrant is refining their competency and capability. Prior to being considered by the Boardfor Associate status an applicant must have completed the following:

2.1 House Inspection 1 OR equivalent AND, 2.2 BC Building Code Course (BLDC 1500) OR equivalent Part 9 Course AND, 2.3 House Inspection 2 OR equivalent AND, 2.4 House Inspection 3, Communication and Report Writing OR equivalent AND 2.5 House Inspection 4, Basic Field Experience in House Inspection, OR if acceptable to the Board, ‘apprentice’ with a CHI/CPI Mentor OR have other field experience acceptable to the Board, documented in an ASTTBC Career Log. 2.6 ASTTBC Professional Practice & Ethics Exam. 2.7 Associate Inspectors must maintain an ASTTBC Career Log for submission to the Board upon request. 2.8 Any additional certification requirements for Associate Inspector certification must be reasonable, justified and documented. 2.9 There are time limits on the period during which you may remain as an Associate Inspector. Currently, this is two years without additional conditions and five years maximum without a special exemption. It is intended that an Associate Inspector would generally work for or under the direct supervision of a CPI/CHI.

3. Certified House Inspector (CHI)
Prior to being considered by the Boardfor Certified House Inspector status an applicant must have completed the following:

3.1 A minimum of 6 months and a maximum of 24 months experience as an Associate Inspector and a minimum of 25 additional inspections that demonstrate diversity & relevance. Submit a detailed ASTTBC Career Log and declaration. Any or all of these inspections may be subject to review by the Board. After 24 months, the Board will require an Associate Inspector to meet the most current requirements for certification as a CHI. AND, 3.2 Satisfactorily complete a minimum of 2 inspections with CHI/CPI Peer Reviewers (a list of Peer Reviewers will be provided); AND, 3.3 The CHI designation is granted to qualified individuals holding a minimum of Associate status with ASTTBC and who are working to eventually achieve the Certified Technician (CTech) designation. 3.4 Any additional certification requirements for full certification must be reasonable, justified and documented.

4. Certified Property Inspector (CPI)
Prior to being considered by the Boardfor Certified Property Inspector status an applicant must have completed the following:

4.1 Commercial Inspection 1 (BLDG 2965) OR equivalent AND 4.2 Commercial Inspection 2 (BLDG 2975) OR equivalent AND 4.3 A multi unit and small buildings code course (BLDG 1825) OR equivalent 4.4 A minimum of 6 months and a maximum of 24 months experience as a CHI and a minimum of 25 additional inspections that demonstrate diversity & relevance. Submit a detailed log and declaration. Any or all of these inspections may be subject to review by the Board. After 24 months, the Board will require a CHI to meet the most current requirements for certification as a CPI. AND, 4.5 Satisfactorily complete a minimum of 2 inspections with CPI Peer Reviewers (a list of Peer Reviewers will be provided); AND, 4.6 The CPI designation is normally only granted to qualified individuals holding an AScT or CTech designation in the Building, Civil, Electrical or Mechanical disciplines. 4.7 Any additional certification requirements for full certification must be reasonable, justified and documented.

IMPORTANT NOTES:
1. House 1, 2, 3, 4, BC Building Code courses, and Commercial Inspection 1 and 2 courses are offered at BCIT as part-time studies. 2. Any course equivalency or exemption is determined by the Board of Examiners. 3. The Board retains the option of requiring the applicant to complete other requirements for certification if it is not convinced of the competency of the applicant to perform inspections – see 2.8, 3.5 and 4.8. 4. There is a fee for the services of CHI/CPI Mentors and Peer Reviewers. 5. All inspections must be completed to the minimum requirements of BCIPI inspection standards or better. 6. At the exclusive discretion of the Board those candidates with exceptional experience and qualifications may be afforded special consideration. 7. Additional ASTTBC Career Logs are available from ASTTBC for $10.70 each, including GST and postage. 8. Registrants are consistently referred to the ASTTBC Code of Ethics & Practice Guidelines and specifically in the matter of financial protection for their clients in the event of their errors and omissions: “All Members who provide services directly to the public or perform work as independent contractors have a duty of care to ensure adequate financial protection to their clients in the event of their errors and omissions”.

Fees

Property Inspection

Application Fee:
$125 + GST Combination Application Fee:
(for both ASTTBC membership and
Certification as a House/Property Inspector) $275 + GST Annual Renewal Fee:
(effective from June 1st, 2005 - May 31st, 2006)

Inspector-In-Training

$95 + GST

Associate Inspector

$185 + GST

CPI/CHI

$265 + GST Note: special levies MAY be charged to the full BCIPI membership
to underwrite initiatives that are approved by prior vote of the BCIPI members.

ASTTBC

Annual Dues: (effective from January 1st - December 31st, 2006)

Associate

$205 + GST

GradTech

$70 + GST first year
$100 + GST second year
$152 + GST third year
$205 + GST forth year

AScT/CTech

$255 + GST

More Information on BCIPI
To learn more about the British Columbia Institute of Property Inspectors, please visit their web site, bcipi.asttbc.org

[rwand1]

If your interested in his report... Maybe we can all learn from it!

http://www.theco.ca/sites/thecompany...ple_report.pdf

[gkoehl]

Originally Posted by rwand1

If your interested in his report... Maybe we can all learn from it!

http://www.theco.ca/sites/thecompany...ple_report.pdf

Are those price numbers in yellow highlights original parts of the report?

[rwand1]

I think the yellow is highlighting costs for the summary page. In my opinion the report is not layed out very well, nor does it read well.

[csteele]

Originally Posted by NUT

So... what level of professional due diligence do you want: a 1hr to 2.5hr turnaround inspection will cost you between $250 and $450. In my opinion and experience; a professional Condo inspection turnaround takes most of the day or longer and ranges from $600 to $800.

MOST of the day!!!!,... to do a condo inspection?? How long does it take to do a 2000sq foot home??? WOW! The builders must freak when they see him coming to do a PDI!

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

http://www.theco.ca/page168.htm

You're too kind, Nick. His worldly posessions would have made a terrific daily door prize.

[Jason A. Sieg, CMI]

Just a comment...

From what I have read here (not from any of the links). His service sounds great for the person who wants to case several homes to rob them.

1] photo's during an Open House (do they have anything good to take.)
2] report of all defects (now they know how to enter the home or is there is an alarm system.)
3] no ties to any purchase agreements to connect them to the robbery.
4] by giving him false name, etc. he could be left as the fall guy for any robbery.

Sounds scary to me!

[rwand1]

How to choose a qualified inspector

In response to threats received from the U.S. National Association of Certified Home Inspectors, I am currently refining the expression of my professional point of view and re-writing the contents of this page.
Until I post the re-write, however, let me just re-iterate that property-inspectors in BC can be certified by either of two Canadian bodies. So it’s good to look for these accredited qualifications. But I also recommend that you evaluate certain other qualities and qualifications of at least equal importance.

a. Associations
i) British Columbia Institute of Property Inspectors (BCIPI) - ASTT- independent certification body
§Certified Property Inspectors “CPI” - commercial and residential
§Certified Home Inspectors “CHI” - residential
ii) Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors
§Registered Home Inspectors “RHI”


Consumers should not be confused by home inspector "certifications" offered by, or sold by home inspection trade societies or companies, obtained via home study courses, or provided by home inspection companies that certify their own home inspectors.

He still doesn't get it. I don't think he ever will! The two associations he refers to as being credible certify themselves! DUH! Then he has the gall to suggest Nachi's letter is a threat. Sorry its not a threat when you knowingly post false and misrepresentative info.

Nick I strongly suggest that this inspector be reported to BCIPI to be certain that his activities and comments fit with what his so called professional accreditation requires.