Watch me REALLY screw with OAHI

[bugmenot]

Blah blah blah

[gilstrachan]

Dear fellow NACHI members,

Since taking control of user account "gilstrachan" in hope of reducing the verbal diarrhea of Raymond and Roy, I have been hoping that this lunacy would be reduced. That sadly has not been the case.

Mysteryman has come up with a way for you express your opinion and participate.

Non-members cannot post polls but ALL can vote on others reputation so here is the plan.

Option 1-
If you think Raymond and Roy should continue as they have been vote gilstrachan's reputation DOWN and Raymond and Roy's UP

Option 2-
If you think Raymond and Roy should shut-up and get a life
vote gilstrachan's reputation UP and Raymond and Roy's DOWN

Let's see what the membership of NACHI really thinks of these two boys antics.

Go to the yellow star at the top of the post to give reputation points.

Speak up NACHI. This is your BB too

[D. Bottoms]

Just for you jack asses who think you're clever slamming OAHI. I have posted the link to this thread on the OAHI CAFE.

One of these days you will appreciate how good OAHI-CAHPI is!

Dave.Bottoms

182 Posts
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 18:56:47

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...875#post125875

Dave

[Thomas Lloyd]

Dave Bottoms do you think you could shut up for any length of time? You are an embarrassment to OAHI and CAHPI. OAHI members are sick and tired of you pontificating about Raymond Wand, Roy Cooke, Nick and others and about NACHI.

You ran around issuing threats and I spoke to you about that, now there are more complaints coming in from members and non members complaining about your posts and your threats and outlandish statements. You are revealing info that is confidential in nature.

Your revealing more information and helping NACHI, please will you stop and think before you post information that obviously is helping Mr. Wand.

Tom Lloyd

[misplaced]

As the newly elected board member of OAHI its nice to see Mr. Christopher ruffling his feathers. Another chip off the old block!

For your information Mr. Christopher Mr. Bottoms has been very busy posting here under the identity of Norman Bushman, Raymond E Wand, and other entities. Maybe you should get all the facts Mr. Christopher before you go making subjective decision based on less than accurate info provided by Mr. Bottoms.

Dave.Bottoms

182 Posts
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 18:56:47

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...875#post125875

Dave



Wayne.Christopher

67 Posts
Posted - 12/05/2006 : 08:19:45


Dave,
I hope you haven't been posting on that site. After reading through all the posts it is very hard to distinquish fact from fiction. Regardless, Mr. Wand is the common denominator and any ethical association would bar/ban him and/or any postings authored by him.
Wayne Christopher RHI

[bugmenot]

Dave is a bad boy! Dave is notty! Dave is lying again, again and again! Something he is very good at.

[rwand1]

Regardless, Mr. Wand is the common denominator and any ethical association would bar/ban him and/or any postings authored by him.

Any ethical Association? I guess that rules out OAHI. Thanks for substantiating my theory that OAHI-CAHPI is unethical.

Thanks Wayne I thought perhaps you would be above all this and be able to sort between fact or fiction. I think you have just shown that you are bias and aren't able to fashion your own thoughts without influence from others.

[D. Bottoms]

Hey here are my concerns again maybe Wayne you could endeavour to answer these very troubling concerns?

D. Bottoms
New User Posts: 44

Re: I'm visiting 5 Provinces in 5 days, meeting government officials regarding licensing.
Please Note: This user is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with NACHI.


Hey Big Guy.

When you meet with the Ontario Government Official(s) be sure to raise the following concerns about OAHI.

Thanks Big Guy!

Dave

Just bare with me here ...

1) How can the membership of OAHI knowledgably appoint the auditor at the AGM or elect Board Members without having this all of this information (Minutes, Financial info) in there hands far prior to the meeting? Why must they attend the meeting to get this info? How can a member vote by proxy without this information? Do you feel this information should be sent to all members long before the AGM?

2) What is preventing someone from "lifting" this "scared" information that they receive at the AGM and forwarding it on to other associations?

3) Why is this information not open to public in the first place, given a new member should be entitled to review this information in order to make an informed decision about joining? It's the members' money, not the associations. OAHI is merely the custodian which safeguards the members money and they don't appear to be minding it very well by witholding the info that we as members are entitled to see. Not to mention witholding such info is contrary to the by-laws and the Corporations Act.


4) Making viewing of this information ONLY at head office effectively stifles any out-of-towner from seeing the information. Without trust, communication, commitment and accountability there can be no results to move the association forward in a positive manner.

5) No other associations to my knowledge have such a restricted flow, or should I say non-existent communication, of this CRITICAL information which involves not association funds, but rather the members' monies. There's not an internal audit committee. Why? You've admitted there's been "some difficulties over the financials" and it's worth noting in the past there's been absconding of OAHI funds by a former treasurer. Do you not think these questions posed here about accountability and communication of this financial information is more than warranted and should NOT be restricted? Maybe the release of this information to "other associations" stems directly from concerns about the financials?

6) Are you aware that "administrative" fees aka as fines have been levied arbitrarily and collected by the Secretary? When the individual queried the association to the mix up no replies. This calls into further question
who is imposing fines contrary to the by-laws and which is a DPPC matter, and where the fines are going and are they being reported in the financial records?


7) Lastly, I know you're new to the board, but I would like to ask you this...how long will you be a willing participant if these non-disclosure issues continue I only ask because I feel some on the board are negligent and quite frankly I and others feel someone needs to do an audit.

Oh I also think that the BOD decision to restrict access to the documents does not hold much credence. As an example here are two associations which publish their financial info.

These are available to the public:

OACETT - http://www.oacett.org/downloads/file...ements2005.pdf

PEO - http://www.peo.on.ca/publications/DI...alStatemts.pdf

[Thomas Lloyd]

Dave

Stop screwing around your dragging OAHI-CAHPI into this feeding frenzy.

If you are interested in the Minutes of the Board meetings you have to go to head office to view them. Head office is at the lawyers office at:

Gardiner Blumberg
390 Bay Street
Ste. 1202
Toronto, ON

There you can view the Minutes and the financial info.

[bugmenot]

You mean like you Dave who has logged on as Norm Bushman, Raymond E Wand, D. Bottoms, bugmenot, Roy Cooke and others.

Yes try and throw people off the trail, you are no bloodhound, heck you aint even an inspector.

OAHI has your number it appears you have lost favour with the power shakers. Oooooops like everything else you have touched it has been a failure.

Do you really think anyone is going to go to all those links to figure out who you are. You are a nut case!

Bugmenot

[misplaced]

Dave

Maybe you should practice what you preach. You are a liar big time! You are posting under all those names because
you are ashamed of your real name. We have your number.

Dave.Bottoms

183 Posts
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 18:56:47 http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...875#post125875

Dave

Wayne.Christopher

67 Posts
Posted - 12/05/2006 : 08:19:45

Dave,
I hope you haven't been posting on that site. After reading through all the posts it is very hard to distinquish fact from fiction. Regardless, Mr. Wand is the common denominator and any ethical association would bar/ban him and/or any postings authored by him.
Wayne Christopher RHI


Dave.Bottoms

183 Posts
Posted - 12/05/2006 : 09:21:33

Hi Wayne,

I stopped posting there altogether in the summer of 2005. However, Raymond's registered a user name under "D. Bottoms" and has been trying to fool everyone on that forum into thinking it's me for some time now. I've been ignoring it--too busy to bother with that sort of garbage--but when I saw that one slam against OAHI yesterday I couldn't help but share it here.

Oh well, life goes on.

Dave Edited by - Dave.Bottoms on 12/05/2006 09:22:47

[bugyoutoo]

I looked at the links and I don't see the connection Dave is trying to make.

I guess he thinks we are all as stupid as he is. From what I gather Dave is frustrated with his parent association, but is to little a man to rock the boat. He can only rock the boat unhindered by coming here and posting under assumed names. He sure is someone to look upto but as a member of Oahi I know he is falling from grace. He has caused them a lot of problems.

I would post under my real name, but like Dave I am afraid of the reprecussions within OAHI as they have a habit of intimidating members who speak out.

[bugmenot]

Dave

Do you need help, its seems you are drowning in you own stupidity!

Bump

[James H. Bushart]

okay...okay....here comes my favorite part.

Are you guys watching...this is really funny...

Moe is about to rake the saw across Curly's head. Then, as he does the "woo-woo-woo", he shuffles back into Larry who spills the paint over Moe's head....

I just love these guys.....

[bugyoutoo]

Thomas.Lloyd

64 Posts
Posted - 12/05/2006 : 10:09:35 Dear Members

Dave Bottoms provided a link to the nachi site on the Cafe to a banter that Raymond Wand has been having with a number of people. Some are posted under names that Raymond has been using, others I do not know who is using them. It has come to my attention that some one is now making posts under my name on that site. Please be well aware that I have never made a post on that site and it is an imposter that is doing so. You will also notice that this type of actions will not be tollerated on the OAHI Cafe as we are a proffessional group and will remain a proffessional group. Mr Wand has on many occassions broken the rules of the Cafe and has been suspended for doing so. Mr Wand also on many occassions slandered the good name of many of the members and feels that he is above the law. Mr. Wand also continually breaks the rules and the by-laws and feels that he can get away with it. As a history lesson Mr. Wand is one of only two people who has been removed from a committee for not following the set procedures that were in place but followed his own rules. Due to Mr. Wands actions on a number of occassions the BOD as well as the association have had to change the way bussinness is done such as posting the finanials as well as the minutes as he would post them on to another site. Mr. Wand has also spread false information, an example is that he has been notified regarding a number of complaints, Mr. Wand stated that he had indeed sent in his reply within the alloted time frame. Mr. Wand did in fact not send in a reply but sent in an appeal request for a number of frivioulus complaints that he had made against a number of people some whom are not even members of the OAHI that werew dismissed. Personally I am outraged by his actions and I would hope that you as members are also.

Once again I am note the person posting on the nachi site.

Best Regards

Tom Lloyd RHI
Vice President
CAHPI Ontario/OAHI