We just arranged an infrared camera workshop for the Toronto Convention.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

Mario,

I agree. But this is not like teaching ladder safety. One of the biggest mistakes a new camera owner makes is wrongful interpretation of data and the reporting of such. When viewing the home exterior with an infrared camera, there are many inspectors that think that a certain color represents moisture intrusion. Quite often this is true but sometimes it will be from reflections, past or current weather conditions and other possibilities. If the students will leave the planned class with a firm understanding of what the benefits of having a camera are and how to correctly interpret data then it sounds like a winner.

Erol

I guess it can't hurt to take it [Wills course] and other courses.I'm planning on purchasing a camera during the Toronto Convention,the course will be interesting. I will wait and see what the vender's are offering.

[rrichards2]

Originally Posted by jbushart

It's not the workshop or education level or experience level that makes a "pro", IMO.

A "professional" is one who does something for pay. A professional ball player versus a college ball player, etc.

Being "professional" is an attitude...conveying pride and "professionalism" in how you handle your clientele.

Our profession allows for a wide scope of qualifications. Some were contractors and builders who started swinging a hammer and never sat in a classroom...but who know their stuff...and become inspectors of the homes they used to build. Some had fathers who were home inspectors and followed in their footsteps, never having any "hands on" building experience. Others learned the job from books or classes.

It is hard to imagine this, with the numbers of members being as high as they are, but most home inspectors belong to none of the associations. They quietly make their living doing their thing by word of mouth advertising and sound reputation.

The need and opportunity to keep up with the latest technology (and the latest discoveries of weaknesses in old technology) require us all to keep our noses "in the books"....but there is no one single way of distinguishing the good from the bad - other than the market.

The market will thresh out the good from the bad and the "professional" will continue to be paid for his work. Others will not.

amen

[ekartal6]

Hi Mario,

I'm all for the cool gadget and will be using it myself very soon. Just to be on the safe side I may fork over the extortion - I mean tuition to learn more.

I just remembered that Will is a 'scientifically minded dude' who probably know's quite a bit about the topic.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

Hi Mario,

I'm all for the cool gadget and will be using it myself very soon. Just to be on the safe side I may fork over the extortion - I mean tuition to learn more.

I just remembered that Will is a 'scientifically minded dude' who probably know's quite a bit about the topic.

Erol

"Extortion" I like that. Not far from the truth.

[ekartal6]

For my manufacturer of choice...

1. Training is $1500 for 3 days - if you feel you need it. I do.

2. Camera has one 'standard' lense. Optional wide angled lense is $3300 extra.

3. Calibration if needed $1,000.

God forbid you lose your carrying case because they go for a slim $450.

This is for a better than average camera. No magic wand here.

It's a great tool but obvioulsy a very expensive investment. I actually split the cost with another inspector/friend in my area that I've known for 20+ years.

Watch for prices to drop since the heat is on. No pun intended.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

For my manufacturer of choice...

1. Training is $1500 for 3 days - if you feel you need it. I do.

2. Camera has one 'standard' lense. Optional wide angled lense is $3300 extra.

3. Calibration if needed $1,000.

God forbid you lose your carrying case because they go for a slim $450.

This is for a better than average camera. No magic wand here.

It's a great tool but obvioulsy a very expensive investment. I actually split the cost with another inspector/friend in my area that I've known for 20+ years.

Watch for prices to drop since the heat is on. No pun intended.

Erol

This is what I'm hoping for[prices to drop]. When I was in Vegas at the ITA convention I was tempted to buy one for $6000.00 I decided to wait until our convention in May maybe the prices will come down.

As far as sharing the camera....If it's a friend of 20 years I would,.. maybe. I'm anal with all my tools, after all I make my living with them.
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[ekartal6]

We have a agreement that states if he breaks the camera I take his wife to Vegas.

[Vern Mitchinson]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

We have a agreement that states if he breaks the camera I take his wife to Vegas.

Better hope he's happily married

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

this could be a good time to buy the extended warrantee ( on the Camera ) ( ha Ha I new what you where thinking .)
Roy Cooke

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

We have a agreement that states if he breaks the camera I take his wife to Vegas.

Erol

Tell us the truth,are you hoping it breaks?
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[ekartal6]

Oh Roy, you just ruined my evening. I forgot that you have to win the lottery to afford the annual maintenance contracts for these things.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

Oh Roy, you just ruined my evening. I forgot that you have to win the lottery to afford the annual maintenance contracts for these things.

Hope to see you at Toronto next May .
Now if a bunch of us get together and say we would like to buy XXX of these new Gizmo's can you give us a decent price .
Then after he gives us the price we all pay in Canadian Dollars because this is Canada and that is the only legal curency and all prices must be in Canadian dollars .
We can then save about another 18% sounds like a great deal to me .
Its comming start planning .
The Toronto Canadian NACHI Conference Roy Cooke
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[ekartal6]

I'll split camera costs with any guy who has a nice wife.

Seriously though, could you picture 9,300 members running around a dark hotel at 3:00 AM playing hide an go FLIR?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

I'll split camera costs with any guy who has a nice wife.

Seriously though, could you picture 9,300 members running around a dark hotel at 3:00 AM playing hide an go FLIR?

Cute Like it

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by ekartal6

I'll split camera costs with any guy who has a nice wife.

Seriously though, could you picture 9,300 members running around a dark hotel at 3:00 AM playing hide an go FLIR?

Oh I love Flirring!