how would you report this?

[FRED ODETTE]

Did an inspection on a home on Oct. 29 , found some defects and dripping water from the main waste drain , wrote it up , the home owner said they would get a licenced plumber to repair the leak. My client asked me to return and check the repair . This is what I found. It appears to be silicone caulking.
how would you report this to your client?

[rwand1]

The inch and a quarter horizontal waste line where it enters the 3" cast iron main line has been repaired using what appears to be silicone. This is considered to be an inexpensive fix and ideally the cast iron main line should have been fitted with a Tee and the inch and a quarter line placed into that tee.

It was most likely repaired in the manner it was as a cost factor. It is now upto the purchaser to decide if that repair is suitable to his liking.

As to the other repair of the main line, that in my opinion is a proper repair short of replacing the sections of cast iron.

[FRED ODETTE]

Raymond : That is almost word for word that I put in my follow-up report.
I quess I'm not as stupid as I thought I was.

[rwand1]

Thats why you need to bounce these things off stupid people like me!

Cheers,

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Thats why you need to bounce these things off stupid people like me!

Cheers,

Once again showing great minds think a like and XXXLS seldom differ.
.......... Cookie
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[cbuell]

I would simply report it as: "not repaired."

[rwand1]

This is why I always tell my clients that letting the vendor undertake the repairs could result in improper repairs and/or concealing what they have undertaken to repair. It may be better for the purchaser to undertake the repairs because he has contol over the situation.

A client asked me the other day if I would return and inspect what the vendor promised to repair. I told him that I would not do that unless I was present during the repairs, otherwise I don't know what has been repaired or concealed either. In my case the house had mould, foundation problems, and other structural concerns. My client did not purchase the house, and I am glad he didn't.

[George A. H. Luck]

"Improper use of silicone"?

[Dale Duffy]

I would state the attempted repairs are considered temporary patches, a licensed plumber should make the necessary repairs consistent with current plumbing standards, and also recommend replacing the old cast iron pipe with new ABS waste pipe to eliminate concerns of this nature in the future.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Looks like the owner told the plumber he had $50-$60 bucks for the repairs!!!

[Christopher Currins]

I would include "the cast iron could fail any day, and budget accordingly for future replacement"

[rwand1]

Some insurers will not issue insurance on homes with cast iron.

Hey Christopher, I see you live in Alton IL. I live in Alton, Ontario.

[cgoyette]

The silicone WILL fail and within months.

Silicone on cast IRON is not a good mix. The cast Iron in the picture is rusty and unless they cleaned the cast IRON down to pours its never going to hold.

Without getting into the adhesive qualities of silicone this is whats going to happen.

The cast Iron will continue to rust (corrode) it will create a weak surface area where the silicone is attached and then its going to lift completely off and then it will LEAK LEAK LEAK.

"This repair will fail and should be corrected by a professional Licensed Plumber"


Curt

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by dduffy

I would state the attempted repairs are considered temporary patches, a licensed plumber should make the necessary repairs consistent with current plumbing standards, and also recommend replacing the old cast iron pipe with new ABS waste pipe to eliminate concerns of this nature in the future.

This is how I would state it,too, except for the ABS part...we use PVC up here. We, typically, only see ABS in maufactured type homes.

[Doug Edwards]

Ditto. Would list it as a temp repair at best. Improper mix of materials, repair inconsistent with industry standards. (plus it looks like Fido's behind)