IAQ Certified

[Jason Yost]

Gromicko,

I don't know you personally, but I don't think very highly of someone that talks about someone else behind their back. Unless you know the professionals providing the service you should restrain from calling everyone within an association names. I know several NACHI "certified professionals" that do very poor work or call me when they feel like they are over their head in mold, water, or other pollutants on an inspection. I know several NACHI "certified Professaionals" that have a very poor reputation in the industry because of their lack of ethics, knowledge and experience. It wouldn't be fair of me to label everyone with the NACHI based on that would it? I wouldn't dream of doing so!

As someone that has spent seventeen years in inspection, consultation, repairs and emergency work in five states and for various private, public, industrial, non-industrial and governmental establishments, someone who has been thoroughly educated and extensively tested through experience, a person that established his business on my Christian principles, I find it offensive that you would be so quick to label me, along with anyone you may have had a bad word or disagreement with, as "sleazy" because I happen to be a Council-certified Indoor Environmental Consultant and Council-certified Microbial Remediation Supervisor. (That without rementioning the work I've done for some NACHI members in my area.)

To move on... like the NOCA Standard or not, without superceding regulations, they are the legally-binding standard of care that defines the definition between a "certificate" and a "certification". How that was extrapolated toward the use of acronyms and the American Indoor Air Quality Council (AmIAQ) I don't know and don't care. But the fact is what it is - the Standard is on the topic of what it is -

The Council has said repeatedly (as I think you've pointed out) that they don't have a trademark on the CMI. They don't want it. They think it is "worthless". I do too. If the title behind the trademark is weak then so is the trademark. That is not to judge your trademarks, understand, but to clarify the reality behind trademarks in our industry today.

As Mr. Wall said, "get the certifications you are happy with". You have to evaluate the designations out there and strive to attain those that fit your goals as a professional. That isn't for me to judge or you to judge. There is no reason we can't work together to improve the industry for us, our Clients and the rest of the world. In fact, together there is a lot more we can accomplish than without. (And that cooperation is exactly what I've been successful in doing with the NACHI members in my area and am greatful to have them as business networking friends.)

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by douglas

I never knew or cared about a trademark; enjoyed learning more about them. I value having a American National Standards Institute (ANSI) approved certification though. But like I said get the certifications you are happy with.

There are so many CMI trademarks, seems the mark is good for what is listed in the application.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4010%3Aa6tpu4.1.1&p_search=s earchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PAR A1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA 2&p_s_PARA2=CMI&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_s earch=Submit+Query

A trademark is a word, phrase, symbol or design, or a combination of words, phrases, symbols or designs, that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods of one party from those of others.
Any time you claim rights in a mark, you may use the "TM" (trademark) or "SM" (service mark) designation to alert the public to your claim, regardless of whether you have filed an application with the USPTO. However, you may use the federal registration symbol "®" only after the USPTO actually registers a mark, and not while an application is pending. Also, you may use the registration symbol with the mark only on or in connection with the goods and/or services listed in the federal trademark registration.

Cease and Desist letter
Why hasn't InterNACHI stopped the AmIAQC from using the designation CMI? Seems they should if covers the same service.

TGIF going fishin

According to ANSI's certification process, IAC2 is accredited by them too. Also IAC2 does not illegally use a trademark. So IAC2 wins!

[Nick Gromicko]

LOL!