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Old 10/6/11, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Commercial property inspection riddle.

The vast majority of commercial Property Condition Assessment (PCA) for

Commercial Property owners
Commercial Property Net Lease Occupants aka Commercial Triple Net Lease (NNN)
Commercial Property Investors or Groups
Commercial Property Realtors and Brokers
Commercial Engineering and Architect Firms
Commercial Construction Commissioning Agents
Individual or Business Commercial Property purchasers

know what they're looking for or want inspected after the initial contact/conversation/interview.

As has been stated the specifics can easily be covered by the Scope of Work.

I've yet run into a client that was even the least bit curious, asked for or wanted a copy of either ASTM or ComSop once they received the contract including the scope of work. Nor have any come back and questioned something they thought would be included and wasn't upon receiving the final report.

When needed ADAIR INSPECTION can and does provide PCA services in North East Texas and other regions of the state and nation. Call Barry @ 972-487-5634 for your quote.



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Old 10/6/11, 1:51 PM
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I'm releasing a new line of summer-season dresses for women this Spring: The Nick Gromicko Collection . They're fabulous looking. But you can only wear each dress once, inside your own home where no one can see you in it... and you have to pay each time you wear it. LOL.

In all seriousness though, that's the the least of the problems with the 2018 "guideline."

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Old 10/12/11, 11:10 AM
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Who was the course instructor? Which commercial banks have chosen COMSOP over ASTM E2018?

While I may agree that COMSOP helps to define things, it has not displaced ASTM. I also fail to see how any vendor could have possibly influenced the development of the ASTM model, as it is fairly non-descript and may include everything or nothing, depending on what is included in one's scope of work. There is simply nothing in ASTM E2018 that is advantageous to one vendor over another, or one area of expertise over another.

My belief is that the two standards are complimentary. Call one planning and one execution. Both co-exist. Both define. Both are useful.

Actually, a combined lesson on both can ONLY help inspectors inspect and protect.

Nick, whenever you want to go on the road to teach a commercial inspection class that will BLOW ALL OTHERS AWAY, I'm game. Tell you what... you teach the COMSOP piece, and I will teach the hardcore nuts and bolts of a variety of commercial systems, what to look for, and how they work.

I see stuff that most inspectors dont read about. I can scale it to make them aware of what may lurk, and whittle it into practical application of functional theory used on a variety of system sizes and configurations.

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Old 10/12/11, 1:26 PM
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Bank of America. www.ComInspect.com dispatched 2 for them this week and it's only Wednesday.



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Old 10/12/11, 2:15 PM
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BofA doesnt order the PCA. The prospective buyer does.

I have no problem if they accept COMSOP. Let's make sure they really do. If not, we could be harming the client by charging them for a service that is not acceptable to the bank.
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Old 10/12/11, 3:52 PM
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Nope. BoA has been piloting having their commercial inventory regularly inspected until occupied. The checks come from BoA. They are preparing for waves of massive commercial property defaults... and so should our industry.



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Old 10/12/11, 6:41 PM
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Nope. BoA has been piloting having their commercial inventory regularly inspected until occupied. The checks come from BoA. They are preparing for waves of massive commercial property defaults... and so should our industry.
Good to know!
Commercial Property Client is the bank as far as I'm concerned and they can choose their standards from an assortment of sources TREC, ASHI, INACHI, COMSOP, ASTM E2018-08 I'm about as flexible as they come and can write a proposal to fit. Send any and all.



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