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Old 11/24/08, 10:16 PM
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Default InterNACHI releases International S.O.P. for Inspecting Commercial Fire Doors.

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Old 11/24/08, 10:22 PM
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One advantage of the reporting language is that each line is a negative comment. This prevents "doctoring" of the report by outside parties as adding a check anywhere makes the report read worse.



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Old 11/24/08, 10:32 PM
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A commercial fire door inspection can be performed as a separate, stand-alone inspection service.

The NFPA (NFPA 80 5.2.1) says:
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Fire door assemblies shall be inspected and tested not less than annually, and a written record of the inspection shall be signed and kept for inspection by the AHJ.
InterNACHI's SOP for Inspecting Commercial Fire Doors (16.7) says:
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Fire doors should be inspected after any incidents that may have damaged the door or its components or upon noticing possible damage, but not less than annually.
These inspections should be done every year, at least.



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Old 11/24/08, 10:34 PM
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We are developing swinging door inspection stickers and rolling and sliding door inspection tags for member use.



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Default Re: InterNACHI releases International S.O.P. for Inspecting Commercial Fire Doors.

More Info:

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Old 11/24/08, 10:41 PM
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I commend the document, however, I suggest that Canadian inspectors be careful when using the "International Standard" and assuming it verbatim.

Review fire protection and means of egress from the National or applicable provincial code. When it comes to fire protection - the potential liability and risk is greatly increased. - Simply a word of caution from a Ministry of Housing/OBOA Code Course Facilitator.



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Old 11/24/08, 11:00 PM
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This could be a real money maker for members and the inspections come around every year. Note the expiration date in the sample report form:
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This inspection report expires on _________________________ (one year from the date of inspection).



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Default Re: InterNACHI releases International S.O.P. for Inspecting Commercial Fire Doors.

Hey Nick...

Will you be asking Russell to update the InterNACHI ComSOP template for HomeGauge to reflect this new addition? If so, will it be available as a free upgrade for those of us who purchased the template?

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Old 11/24/08, 11:06 PM
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BTW: This isn't a building code (which is of little direct use to inspectors). It is a Standards of Practice for performing annual inspections of the readiness of existing commercial fire doors in the U.S. and Canada.

It's for inspectors, not builders.



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I think selling these inspections would be in the same category as pre-sale residential "ZERO"...but that is just my opinion---

Nice work though Nick.
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Old 11/25/08, 12:25 AM
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If it works as good as our pre-listing inspections do in Denver, I'll be thrilled.... and it has the added incentives of being required by NFPA.... and being commercial.... and being annual.



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Old 11/25/08, 1:53 AM
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If it works as good as our pre-listing inspections do in Denver, I'll be thrilled.... and it has the added incentives of being required by NFPA.... and being commercial.... and being annual.
I have never heard of any company doing this as a stand alone inspection, I have never been asked to do one, I wonder how I would charge, by the door---

Since my 1000 Letters to Home Sellers (pre-listing, sellers inspections) got me a return of 0 for 1000, I'll write up some sort of letter to building owners and property management companies and see what my return is.

I'll let you know how it pans out, sure couldn't think of an easier inspection---, beside roofs of course---
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Old 11/25/08, 2:16 AM
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Yeah, we had poor results with letter writing to sellers too. We found only one way to capture the attention of the big listing agents... we walk into the office carrying a MIC sign. One look at the sign and they finally get their head around what we are trying to do. From there it rolls smoothly.



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Old 11/25/08, 2:18 AM
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Yeah, we had poor results with letter writing to sellers too. We found only one way to capture the attention of the big listing agents... we walk into the office carrying a MIC sign. One look at the sign and they finally get their head around what we are trying to do. From there it rolls smoothly.
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Yeah, we had poor results with letter writing to sellers too. We found only one way to capture the attention of the big listing agents... we walk into the office carrying a MIC sign. One look at the sign and they finally get their head around what we are trying to do. From there it rolls smoothly.
When will the NFPA Certified Signs be ready?

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