Travesty

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Yes it is a big return plenum, but the steel decking is the roof with lightweight concrete and a TPO membrane...so the builder said...I was not paid to inspect the roof, so I did not even look at it---

Great thing about commercial inspections, inspect what they want inspected, and nothing more---

The only reason I was asking is because I saw there was no foil or paper facing on the insulation that is not allowed in plenum ceilings.

Although I am not a great fan of exposed batt insulation in plenums due to the material getting infiltrated with dust and contaminates, I guess it is legal.

Did you check for plenum rated cableing such as data, telephone, fire alarm and exposed PVC pipe for roof leaders and such which is not allowed.

Just curious.

Also, why in the world did they not install the insulation on the roof instead of insulation in the conditioned space that will most likely all fall over time?

If the concrete mass would be inside of the conditioned space in lieu of absorbing and containing all that exterior heat, seems would make more sense.

Marcel

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by mcyr

The only reason I was asking is because I saw there was no foil or paper facing on the insulation that is not allowed in plenum ceilings.

Although I am not a great fan of exposed batt insulation in plenums due to the material getting infiltrated with dust and contaminates, I guess it is legal.

Exposed Batt is all we use here, no barrier required on any insulation residential or commercial.... -reason-, NO moisture, zilch, nada---

Did you check for plenum rated cableing such as data, telephone, fire alarm and exposed PVC pipe for roof leaders and such which is not allowed.

Only lighting and fire suppression at the top floor of this building above the drop panel ceiling, everything else is coming from below...actually this builder did a pretty good job. I have been inspecting a different building for about two months now, just inspecting the insulation and wiring at J-Boxes, 30,000 sq ft....over 200 locations they did not install insulation, or it is falling, and they cannot seem to put covers on J-Boxes (tricky:))--

Just curious.

Also, why in the world did they not install the insulation on the roof instead of insulation in the conditioned space that will most likely all fall over time?

If the concrete mass would be inside of the conditioned space in lieu of absorbing and containing all that exterior heat, seems would make more sense.

Marcel

This is the way 95% of all commercial buildings are constructed in the Phoenix-Scottsdale area.

But I certainly agree with you---

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Thanks Dale, this helps me understand better on how things get done in other areas.

Nice pics by the way.

Marcel

[msylvester]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Great thing about commercial inspections, inspect what they want inspected, and nothing more---

Exactly! I have a small single story 4,000 sf. commercial warehouse with a single office with a powder room today. Roof, structure, bathroom, 1 single phase panel, HVAC has already been disclosed as not functional , and basic plumbing. I estimate it to take no longer than 2 hours. The client will not be there and I charged $689.00. It allowed me to work around the home this morning and still have a great day at work.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Apt building this am with Dale. He got to do the roof.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Apt building this am with Dale. He got to do the roof.

Short straw, eh?
I hope you didn't lean on any of those pipes

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Apt building this am with Dale. He got to do the roof.

Brian, was Dale afraid you would fall of the roof? Or just trying to make you earn your keep?

I guess you discovered some attic issues, didn't you.

I'd swear one of those pipes looks like brass piping with galvanized coupling, but it was most likely all galvanized wasn't it?

Copper to galvanized, was that dielectric fitting? Why dose it look so clean?

Marcel

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Brian, was Dale afraid you would fall of the roof? Or just trying to make you earn your keep?

I guess you discovered some attic issues, didn't you.

I'd swear one of those pipes looks like brass piping with galvanized coupling, but it was most likely all galvanized wasn't it?

Copper to galvanized, was that dielectric fitting? Why dose it look so clean?

Marcel

Uhhhh, it's newer copper tube.

Also, I am not big on a lot of questions. Galvi piping is FUBAR, yank it out.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Apt building this am with Dale. He got to do the roof.

Hmm...Look who is home already, I just got off the roof------

YOU TOOK MY LADDER BRIAN, AND MY CELL PHONE WAS IN MY TOOL BAG IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK----YOU BASTARD...!!!---

I was yelling for a Spaniard- -to find a ladder, and I'll be damned if I could get one to understand what I was TALKING ABOUT..!!!

I finally went down the Palm Tree...!!!!



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